She will not drop out. Don't get your hopes up.

[mudesi]

It is beyond crystal clear at this point that this woman cares not at all about anything other than herself. I know people are getting their hopes up for June, but I'm not. If she had any integrity at all, she would've dropped out months ago. Don't count on Hillary Clinton doing what's best for the party and the country. She is going to drag this all the way to the convention and McCain is going to have a very good chance at beating Obama in November because of it.

Obama will "officially" clinch the nomination when the super delegates decide it in the week(s) following June 3rd. But Hillary Clinton will not drop out. She will continue to whine about Florida and Michigan, she will continue to hope for something bad to happen to Obama (whether it's assassination or anything else), and this idiocy will continue for another three months.

I'm going to call it right here and right now. Do I hope I'm wrong? You bet I do. I would be more than pleased to see a lot of replies to this thread a little over a week from now, laughing at my inane predictions. But I'm not holding my breath.

My message to all liberals and good Democrats: Don't get your hopes up.

[99th_Monkey]

1. Fortunately, McCain seems to be losing all by himself: Campaign in major meltdown mode.

scandals, lobbyists, lobbyists, resignations, hand-wringing ...

.. did I say lobbyists?

[Liberal Veteran]

2. Well duh. She still has a shred of dignity in her fingernail she hasn't stamped down yet.

Give her a little more time though and stomp away without even that little bit.

[mckara]

3. You're Probably Right!

Hillary is a Psychotic Whacko!

She talked about trusting her with 3:00 A.M. phonecalls.

I wouldn't trust her with 3:00 P.M. phonecalls!

[earthlover]

9. Wouldn't she be too tired at 3AM....that seems to be her standard excuse now....

[me b zola]

46. And don't forget that Bill pointed out that her age affects her judgement

[nichomachus]

4. Hillary's political "career" has been distinguished

by the fact that she swept to victory when her most formidable opponent dropped out.

In 2000, Rudy Giuliani developed cancer and left Hillary facing Rick Lazio, a relative nobody who came into the race late and never gained sufficient traction. Nonetheless, Hillary only beat him by 55-43.

In 2006, Jeanine Pirro pulled out and was replaced with a nobody who the GOP refused to support. Hillary swamped him.

So, she has every reason to stay in and hope something happens to Obama.

[crankychatter]

31. you spelled "extinguished" incorrectly - just trying to be helpful - nt

.

[mamalone]

41. wow.. very interesting..

I guess I never fully put this all together. Certainly puts the current events into context doesn't it?

Would you ever consider doing an OP on this?

[Benhurst]

5. Shades of Ted Kennedy in 1980.

But then he didn't have nearly so many elected delegates, and he was running against a sitting Democratic president.

[earthlover]

10. Kennedy also was fighting for more than "in it to win" I believe....

It would have been so much better if Hillary were fighting for some issues or principles instead of ....her winning.

[Benhurst]

13. Teddy's disasterous interview with Rodger Mudd pretty well spelled out there were

no underpinnings to his bid, ideological or otherwise.

My guess is that he was pretty much pushed into it by his followers, and he didn't really want the job. That certainly is the impression he gave in his interview.

[earthlover]

15. Sorry. I guess he was in it to win too?

[Benhurst]

20. Yes, but I really think he was pushed into it by the Camelot groupies.

So many egos get wrapped up in a campaign, and the candidate himself often gets left behind.

Goldwater was very outspoken about the process as he got older. I once heard him say if he "had had half an ounce of brains" he would have taken time out to step back from his campaign and see what was really going on in his presidential bid.

Unfortunately, no candidate has ever seemed to follow his advice.

If you've never watched "The Candidate," rent it from Blockbuster. It's pretty much on target from the campaigns I have experienced, and its even worse on the presidential level.

[earthlover]

23. The Candidate is a great movie.

My favorite line....paraphased...."now what?"

[WeDidIt]

6. January 20,2009, Barack Obama is taking the oath of office

adminstered by John Roberts.

Suddenly, from the crowd, a shrieking sceram is heard above the oath...

"SHAME ON YOU, BARACK OBAMA, FOR TAKING AWAY MY PRESIDENCY!!!!"

[smalll]

32. Ah, the Oath of Office. Can he legally take it WITHOUT saying his middle name? Hmmm?? /nt

[nichomachus]

36. Please cite the law that states he must use his middle name

I searched the Constitution and can't find it anywhere.

[dana_b]

45. wtf is wrong with his middle name??

Hussein!! Hussein!! Hussein!! OMG- the sky is falling!! He's the devil, I tell you- the DEVIL!!!!!!!!

Sincerely,
Dana "Hussein" B

[lob1]

7. Hey Lynyrd. I'm sorry to say that I agree with you.

Her kitchen sink strategy has become the bathroom toilet strategy.

[Emillereid]

8. This crazy woman will still be running after Obama is inaugurated in January, '09

[thoughtcrime1984]

11. She may not drop out but

She will be completely marginalized by the media, and Obama will be proclaimed the presumptive nominee loud and strong by the party leaders. It WILL happen. FWIW, I believe she will drop out June 3 or 4.

[Shae]

12. she's already trying to shift the blame

to Obama. She says his campaign is overreacting.

[slinkerwink]

14. I'm in full agreement with you. She's going to continue the Bataan Death March.

[Genevieve]

16. She's never going to drop out.

She's insane.

(literally)

[Warren DeMontague]

17. I agree. She's riding a caravan of self-righteous bullshit all the way to the convention.

Look at the talking points. She's not going anywhere.

[Bensthename]

18. She will not stop until McCain is president..

She has alot of spunk, yah that's it.

[book_worm]

19. She will continue to undermine Obama even if she did drop out

you can bet that she would give him an endorsement and then, like Lamont in CT in '06, do little to help him afterward. I'll bet she will be a confidential source to reporters in criticizing Obama during the campaign.

[Window]

21. At this point, I no longer care what Hillary does or doesn't do. Period.

[Perry Logan]

22. Sure she will--at the end of her second term!

[emilyg]

25. I like the way you think.

[SwampG8r]

39. and its hire a shill clock in time

[backscatter712]

24. She won't drop until she is forced to drop.

The superdelegates and the party need to sack up and give her sorry ass the swift kick it so desperately needs.

[Major Hogwash]

26. I agree. She will work behind the scenes from now until the convention bending arms behind backs.

Making promises she can't possibly keep, and act like she is an innocent virgin who never did anything wrong.

She reminds me of my first wife.

[Whisp]

27. I have a question or two...

Obama is very close to that 2025 number. amazingly, we were told weeks ago neither could make it.

how can she continue to the convention when the objective has been filled and he's fills all the forms for officially winning?
can she hold things up with court cases that go nowhere? just have a bunch of thugs to disturb the proceedings at the convention?

I am missing some important info here - if Barack wins -
how the hell can she contest that?

[Prophet 451]

34. Wrong number

It's something like 2252 now. If Obama ever wins that, it's become 3000 or something. Essentially, the Hillary campaign is claiming the right to change the rules all on it's lonesome.

[Triana]

28. She will continue imposing herself upon the race and the party....

...and if Obama loses to McSame because of her rear end having been in everyones' face during that time - she'll whine when we blame her for it.

She'll cause him to lose with her juvenile selfishness and the imposition of her bottomless narcissism during the entire election, then cry like a baby when people finger her for it.

Poor Hillary. :sarcasm:

Pffffffffft!

[SwampG8r]

40. dont talk about her huge rear end

they locked me down for that lol

[emilyg]

49. You must be perfect.

[Yukari Yakumo]

29. Even if she won't depart...

She'll become irrelevant before the end of June.

[kennetha]

30. Before June 3

Florida and Michigan will be reinstated. The votes will be seated as is. Hillary will net 111 delegates. The Florida and MIchigan supers will come out for Hillary en masse. And it will be an entirely different ballgame.

[nxylas]

43. And the clouds will open

And choirs of heavenly superdelegates will descend.

[NightOwwl]

33. I posted something very similar...

2 months ago, but mine went a bit further.

I predicted that in addition to taking it to the convention, she will file a lawsuit against the DNC.

We had better face the fact that she is the nightmare that never ends.

[AZSlacker]

35. I agree with you. I have thought this for months.

While she has every right to do so, nominees that are chosen at the convention normally loose the GE. I predict that the battle between the Clinton and progressive wings of the party will go well past the GE. The good news is that the timing of this re-alignment is fortuitous in that there is a similar battle going on concurrently between the conservative and moderate wings of the right.

[Voice for Peace]

37. But once Obama reaches 2025 delegates

won't he be declared the nominee by the party?

[KaptBunnyPants]

38. Correct. Hillary will drop out only if she is forced to do so.

If her superdelegates don't abandon her, she will take this to the convention. And beyond - she may even campaign for McCain.

[SoFlaJet]

42. LS-I also KNOW she won't quit

this is going to the Supreme Court if possible. The CC will declare Caucuses as an illegal way to calculate votes and use Bush v Gore as an example of how they disenfranchise voters and all the psychotic Hillbots will be right there with her. I know it, you know it, and THEY know it too.

[dana_b]

44. I believe the same thing, LS

Her ego is too much invested in this. It's beyond the "I'd make a better pres." b.s. It's about face and appearances of being a winner.

I'm going to a Bay Area event this Thursday - a "unity" event with Thom Hartmann and delegates from both the Obama and Clinton camps. It should be interesting, to say the least.

[HooptieWagon]

47. She's already planning to attend Obama's inaugeration...

[dana_b]

48. LOL

Animal House!!! very good. :rofl: