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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-09-08 09:06 PM Original message |
Why is her campaign being so divisive...using racism, using threats toward the chairman. |
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Johnny__Motown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-09-08 09:09 PM Response to Original message |
1. This is what polls well in W. Virginia and Kentucky, kinda like the gas tax holiday in Indiana |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-09-08 09:11 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Are you saying racism and anger poll well in those states? |
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Blarch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-09-08 09:14 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. sad indeed. |
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Johnny__Motown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-09-08 09:36 PM Response to Reply #2 |
19. With the uneducated white working people who make less than 50K and are over 60, Yes, I think so |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-09-08 10:05 PM Response to Reply #19 |
24. That's some pretty rough stereotyping there. |
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william37 (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-10-08 01:54 PM Response to Reply #2 |
58. How sad for the Obama campaign |
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Tarheel_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-10-08 02:10 PM Response to Reply #58 |
62. Thanks for signing up to tell a bunch of lies. Enjoy your stay? |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-10-08 02:14 PM Response to Reply #58 |
64. Ms. Brazile is Dean's hatchet woman. |
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jonestonesusa (630 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-10-08 02:39 PM Response to Reply #64 |
65. And this has what to do with Begala's comments? |
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william37 (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-10-08 08:52 PM Response to Reply #65 |
113. Begala was responding to Brazile divisive comments |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-10-08 09:16 PM Response to Reply #113 |
117. That is a lie. I have her quote from the transcript. Be honest. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-10-08 02:47 PM Response to Reply #64 |
66. Deleted message |
Tarheel_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-10-08 04:16 PM Response to Reply #64 |
74. I knew it. Wasn't it Hillary who said "if you can't stand the heat"......? |
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dchill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-10-08 05:32 PM Response to Reply #58 |
89. If you feel sad for the Obama campaign... |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-10-08 07:13 PM Response to Reply #58 |
102. Welcome to DU |
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ekwhite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-10-08 08:57 PM Response to Reply #2 |
114. It is sad, given their history |
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PoliticalAmazon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-10-08 10:58 AM Response to Reply #1 |
48. She's using it because it's the only tactic she has, and because it makes us react to her.... |
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Tarheel_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-10-08 02:12 PM Response to Reply #48 |
63. I've had the same thoughts. These tactics keep her relevant, and in the news. |
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juno jones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-10-08 04:59 PM Response to Reply #48 |
83. It has been ever so with the repubs lo, this thirty years |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-10-08 07:28 PM Response to Reply #1 |
106. Funny, I haven't heard about the gas tax since Indiana ended. n/t |
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DJ13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-09-08 09:13 PM Response to Original message |
3. A split party is a win for her if she's looking at 2012 |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-09-08 09:14 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. I am sure they are aware of the anger we are feeling. |
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DJ13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-09-08 09:18 PM Response to Reply #5 |
10. Then their fear and failure to speak out may be our downfall this year |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-09-08 09:20 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. He has been having private meetings with them around the country |
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william37 (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-10-08 02:00 PM Response to Reply #11 |
60. It is not about her |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-10-08 07:16 PM Response to Reply #60 |
103. More Projection? |
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Kittycat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-09-08 09:15 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. They can see... |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-09-08 09:17 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. Her campaign has pumped up the anger even more within her supporters... |
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Kittycat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-09-08 09:50 PM Response to Reply #8 |
22. Donnie... He calls all the shows. |
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william37 (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-10-08 01:56 PM Response to Reply #6 |
59. But we are jumping |
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youngharry (231 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-10-08 06:55 PM Response to Reply #59 |
96. Propagandists from the right |
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mhoran (289 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-10-08 08:24 PM Response to Reply #59 |
108. Sorry, but... |
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CakeGrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-09-08 09:16 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. I find it hard to believe she isn't burning bridges to 2012 |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-10-08 07:20 PM Response to Reply #7 |
104. I'm saddened to see The Clinton's for what *they really are* = Bigots who'll act racist ... |
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AmiBlue (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-11-08 03:44 PM Response to Reply #3 |
125. They can |
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wileedog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-09-08 09:17 PM Response to Original message |
9. Because she is so far behind that the only way to not lose |
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K Gardner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-09-08 09:24 PM Response to Original message |
12. I am too angry to post anything as well-reasoned as this right now. After |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-09-08 09:25 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. Larry King tonight was a turning point for me. It was outrageous. |
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william37 (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-10-08 09:00 PM Response to Reply #12 |
115. This white man won't be voting for Obama |
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Kool Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-11-08 01:55 AM Response to Reply #115 |
119. Your values and interests-what would those be? |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-09-08 09:25 PM Response to Original message |
13. I prefer just moving on at this point. I have outrage fatigue |
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mhoran (289 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-10-08 03:03 PM Response to Reply #13 |
69. "Outrage fatigue" |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-10-08 04:22 PM Response to Reply #69 |
75. Once you play the race card, things change. When you put down educated people, things change. |
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mhoran (289 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-10-08 04:27 PM Response to Reply #75 |
79. I can't pretend to fully comprehend your experience as a Florida Dem |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-10-08 04:49 PM Response to Reply #79 |
82. Not offended, just realistic. |
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juno jones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-10-08 05:02 PM Response to Reply #13 |
84. May I suggest a walk-in fridge? |
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Major Hogwash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-09-08 09:31 PM Response to Original message |
15. What's even worse, some Democrats still stand by her!! |
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Emit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-09-08 09:34 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. I don't think Emanuel actually endorsed Obama, I think he just said |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-09-08 10:48 PM Response to Reply #18 |
29. You are right, he did not endorse. |
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Emit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-09-08 11:56 PM Response to Reply #29 |
36. Last I heard, Rahm was hiding under his desk |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-10-08 10:27 AM Response to Reply #36 |
44. Bet a lot of Dem leaders are hiding under their desk now. |
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Tatiana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-10-08 12:51 PM Response to Reply #36 |
56. We in IL are after Rahm (and so is his brother!) He'll do the right thing. n/t |
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youngharry (231 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-10-08 07:01 PM Response to Reply #15 |
97. PROPAGANDA WARS |
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barack the house (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-09-08 09:32 PM Response to Original message |
16. You are so right let's try to keep our calm even though we are being antagonoised... |
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State the Obvious (561 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-09-08 09:32 PM Response to Original message |
17. No, she's trying to "force" Obama to select her as VP |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-09-08 10:16 PM Response to Reply #17 |
27. Obama's not that stupid. I'm 100% certain he knows exactly what she is after and he'll find a |
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mhoran (289 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-10-08 04:07 PM Response to Reply #27 |
71. Agreed |
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youngharry (231 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-10-08 07:11 PM Response to Reply #17 |
101. Hillary as VP |
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1776Forever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-09-08 09:38 PM Response to Original message |
20. Carol Simpson was on LK tonight & started the same racist talk she made 2 weeks ago - link....... |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-09-08 09:49 PM Response to Original message |
21. Those who have it in them to do so bear the majority of the burden to "take the high road". |
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oxbow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-10-08 12:09 AM Response to Reply #21 |
38. beautifully stated! nt. |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-10-08 09:14 AM Response to Reply #38 |
42. I had the privilege of teaching highschool for 8 years. |
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fadedrose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-09-08 09:54 PM Response to Original message |
23. And they want her for Vice Presdient...yoy |
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mhoran (289 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-10-08 04:13 PM Response to Reply #23 |
73. I don't know |
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skepticscott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-10-08 05:56 PM Response to Reply #73 |
93. She wouldn't |
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walldude (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-09-08 10:10 PM Response to Original message |
25. Because for her it's not just about the presidency.. It's about history |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-09-08 10:12 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. It's poignant and sad. |
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Kokonoe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-09-08 10:20 PM Response to Original message |
28. She is NOT going to leave the democratic party |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-09-08 10:56 PM Response to Original message |
30. I'll give you the answer and it ain't a nice one |
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sakura (660 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-10-08 06:26 PM Response to Reply #30 |
94. You are absolutely correct... |
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ccharles000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-09-08 10:56 PM Response to Original message |
31. She loves us all. |
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nichomachus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-09-08 11:12 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. Well at least she did when that photo was taken -- 40 years ago. |
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Usrename (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-09-08 11:51 PM Response to Reply #31 |
34. At least all of us hard-working white folks. |
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Arugula Latte (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-10-08 05:25 PM Response to Reply #31 |
88. She doesn't love me. I'm a latte sipper with too much book lernin' for her taste. |
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ekwhite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-10-08 09:10 PM Response to Reply #31 |
116. ccharles, I respect you for your positive posts |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-09-08 11:30 PM Response to Original message |
33. Just saw the whole first half of Larry King. Many words come to mind. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-09-08 11:53 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. I was tempted to turn it on |
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Emit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-09-08 11:57 PM Response to Reply #33 |
37. I'll have to find an on line clip |
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BenDavid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-10-08 12:12 AM Response to Original message |
39. Lets look at the quotes made by Begala and Brazille...... |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-10-08 12:17 AM Response to Reply #39 |
40. I am speaking of Hillary and Bill using the code words. |
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VolcanoJen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-10-08 12:19 AM Response to Reply #39 |
41. Riddle me this, Ben. |
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jonestonesusa (630 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-10-08 02:47 PM Response to Reply #39 |
67. So you tell me, what part of this do you reject? |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-10-08 09:57 AM Response to Original message |
43. She is stereotyping voters in a terrible way |
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juno jones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-10-08 05:15 PM Response to Reply #43 |
85. She has insulted |
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formercia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-10-08 10:52 AM Response to Original message |
45. For the times they are a-changin'. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-10-08 10:54 AM Response to Reply #45 |
46. And when that happens...when the times are changing.. |
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formercia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-10-08 10:58 AM Response to Reply #46 |
47. The sheeple have opened their eyes |
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formercia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-11-08 10:12 AM Response to Reply #45 |
123. Four Video tributes: |
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Gman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-10-08 11:40 AM Response to Original message |
49. I've got to hand it to you... |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-10-08 11:59 AM Response to Reply #49 |
50. "mastered demonization, you have also mastered the fine art of creating hate." |
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Gman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-10-08 12:05 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. I'm sure you see it that way |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-10-08 12:14 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. Her campaign has divided my state. They have used the race issue |
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Gman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-10-08 12:37 PM Response to Reply #52 |
54. Well, as a matter of fact |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-10-08 12:54 PM Response to Reply #54 |
57. My state is her ticket to the convention. It has always been. |
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mhoran (289 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-10-08 04:10 PM Response to Reply #54 |
72. Phrases like "Obamamania"... |
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Gman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-10-08 05:52 PM Response to Reply #72 |
92. Phrases like "fucking whore" |
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mhoran (289 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-10-08 06:48 PM Response to Reply #92 |
95. Way to take personal responsibility |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-10-08 12:18 PM Response to Reply #51 |
53. You are right. Emotions are blinding. |
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Douglas Carpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-10-08 12:44 PM Response to Original message |
55. a sense of entitlement, perhaps? |
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mhoran (289 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-10-08 04:22 PM Response to Reply #55 |
76. Maybe more a matter of expectations? |
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Douglas Carpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-10-08 04:43 PM Response to Reply #76 |
80. fair enough |
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Tarheel_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-10-08 02:07 PM Response to Original message |
61. Mad, you always seem to say what I'm thinking, but you articulate it |
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Leafy Geneva (52 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-10-08 02:48 PM Response to Original message |
68. I think they are terrified of 1,500,000 small donors |
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Bensthename (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-10-08 03:06 PM Response to Original message |
70. It is all about 2012.. That is her last shot.. She cant run if Obama wins this year. |
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lcdtelevision (22 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-10-08 04:24 PM Response to Original message |
77. Using racism? No. You said that |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-10-08 04:45 PM Response to Reply #77 |
81. Golly gee....I got a lot of new folks calling me names here today. |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-10-08 04:27 PM Response to Original message |
78. Because it's easier, and more natural for her than pretending to be a liberal. |
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judasdisney (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-10-08 05:17 PM Response to Original message |
86. We are meant to react. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-10-08 05:21 PM Response to Reply #86 |
87. Interesting post. |
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juno jones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-10-08 05:42 PM Response to Reply #87 |
90. I have been mistaken before |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-10-08 05:46 PM Response to Reply #90 |
91. I thought of something when I read it. |
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youngharry (231 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-10-08 07:07 PM Response to Reply #91 |
98. MADFLORIDIAN IS RIGHT |
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juno jones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-10-08 07:09 PM Response to Reply #91 |
99. As the down-eaters say: |
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bagimin (945 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-10-08 07:10 PM Response to Original message |
100. I feel exactly as you do.. |
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VotesForWomen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-10-08 07:27 PM Response to Original message |
105. what i want to know is, have you stopped beating your wife yet? you guys are beyond pathetic. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-10-08 08:46 PM Response to Reply #105 |
112. Who is "you guys"? And why are we pathetic? |
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VotesForWomen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-11-08 03:49 AM Response to Reply #112 |
120. obama messiah, hillary satan. that shit's getting old. |
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lefty2000 (151 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-10-08 07:45 PM Response to Original message |
107. We Are So Bad |
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Lord Helmet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-10-08 08:31 PM Response to Original message |
109. we don't have to do shit, people are either on board or not |
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Diane R (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-10-08 08:42 PM Response to Original message |
110. Perhaps that's the point...they don't WANT the party to be unified. |
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eek MD (249 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-10-08 08:45 PM Response to Original message |
111. As sad as it sounds.......... |
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McCamy Taylor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-11-08 01:48 AM Response to Original message |
118. Sorry, but I see the divisiveness coming from all directions. Obama is not innocent. |
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Perry Logan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-11-08 05:48 AM Response to Original message |
121. As with all anti-Clinton posts, the premise is wrong. Obama's campaign, not Hillary's, was dirty. |
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Towlie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-11-08 08:29 AM Response to Reply #121 |
122. All Anti-Clinton posts? Really? |
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natrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-11-08 12:57 PM Response to Original message |
124. well they certainly are outing themselves as the neocon/dlc thugs that they are |
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