ON TO DENVER!!!!

[RememberWellstone]

God, I love this woman! More balls than half the men in the party...even on the edge of the cliff she still fights. I love you Hill, we're are going with all the way to Denver with you!!:bounce: :toast:

[futureliveshere]

Happy journey.. We welcome you to support HRC supporting BO in Denver!!!

[proud2BlibKansan]

1. She'll probably have a front row seat

Or at least she'll get to sit in the front of her state section. So she can be up close and personal while Obama gives his acceptance speech. :)

[RememberWellstone]

48. With more of the popular vote

I would hope so.

[tekisui]

59. That dream ended last night.

She won't have the popular vote total, even with the sham Primaries of MI and FL added.

[thoughtcrime1984]

68. Give me a break...

It's Hil supporters like you that tick me off. Popular vote means NOTHING in the primaries, if it did, there'd be no caucuses, because states would be disenfranchising themselves because of typically lower turnout for caucuses. He is comfortably ahead in delegates, the two states that tried to circumvent the DNC rules are not going to count as they are, and they shouldn't. I know you'd like to believe that Obama would get zero votes in MI, but I am quite certain he'd outright win there, and garner hundreds of thousands of votes. It is over, quite simply. Your time of acting like an indignant jerk on DU is ticking to an end, one way or another. I wish I wouldn't have emptied my ignore list. Your handle is not conducive to the way you carry yourself here.

[proud2BlibKansan]

74. Dream on

:rofl:

[anonymous171]

2. I thought Wellstone was the antithesis of the DLC?

[proud2BlibKansan]

5. One of the more bizarre user names on DU

[newmajority]

13. Perhaps not

The phrase "remember Wellstone" could have an entirely different meaning...... :scared:

[tridim]

23. Wow, that gave me chills. I hope you're wrong.

[anonymous171]

27. ...

:scared:

[RememberWellstone]

46. Oh for Chriss sakes.

Give me a break..Paul was my hero, hence the namesake. I remember him and his legacy almost everyday. He was truely the greatest "fighter" of our time.

[newmajority]

49. How do you go from one extreme to the other

Wellstone--------------------------------------------------------"center"--------------------------------------------------Hillary

Not to get Vulcan here, but it's totally illogical that one could be a serious fan of both :crazy:

[RememberWellstone]

55. You're missing the link.

I don't have to be just like Paul to remember him. He was my hero in every sense of the word..he taught me to think for myself and vote my belief.

[olkaz]

52. I don't remember him fighting Democrats.

Or trying to destroy his opponents.

The idea you support Hillary and idolize Wellstone is freaking bizarre.

[RememberWellstone]

56. He would not be an Obama suppporter

Those who say different are freaking loons..he was totally anti-elitist.

[olkaz]

58. Keep trotting out the elitist meme. About as rational as "Al Gore Invented the Internet".

You're making yourself look stupid.

[MirrorAshes]

80. seriously. if "elite" is all they've got left... well...

good luck with that!

[anonymous171]

60. He supported Bradley against Gore in the primaries.

Not a big fan of the Clinton brand. His base was the same as Obama's, young people and minorities.

[Fox Mulder]

63. He would've supported Kucinich.

Not someone like Clinton.

[thoughtcrime1984]

70. Wow, you have jumped the shark yet again.

Your candidate seems a bit more elite to me. That she tried to affix that label to Obama is laughable, if not outrageous.

[walldude]

76. Considering your candidate has dumped 11.4 million of her

own money into her campaign, you may want to reconsider the whole elitist argument.. not that it was ever true in the first place. Why can't Hillary supporters use actual facts to attack Obama? You really believe a black man raise by a single mom grew up to be an elitist, but Hillary and her 109 million dollars is a hero to the working class? Good luck with that :eyes: You know, I try to stick up for her when there are lame repuke style attacks but some of her supporters are making it difficult.

[RememberWellstone]

81. Facts? Like I have never heard an incidenary

sermon from Rev. Wright? Right..what freaking liar, we don't know who this guy is, seriously.

[proud2BlibKansan]

75. Oh how creepy

:scared:

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

50. Nah.

He showed up during a debate a couple months ago with the clear motivation of disruption.

Nobody paid attention so he didn't get banned before the night was through. So now he just sticks around trying to be a long termer.

[RememberWellstone]

43. Wrong!

He was a fighter too! And Paul was my hero, be careful how you characterize him.

[Pawel K]

72. You sure about that? Because I'm pretty sure you are wrong, and this interview proves it

From: http://www.buzzflash.com/interviews/05/09/int05038.html

Wellstone was one of the biggest DLC critics around. If he really is your hero you haven't done your research.

[Fox Mulder]

62. He was.

[Cheap_Trick]

3. and she'll drag you over the edge of the cliff with her

have a nice fall.

[RememberWellstone]

39. No she won't

She will be just fine, so will we.

[Hawkeye-X]

4. She'll be halted by the DNC before she even lands at Denver International.

i.e., kicked off the plane.

[RememberWellstone]

40. Right.

Such hatred for someone who has given their life for the party.

[reflection]

6. What's with the whole testicle obsession by the Clinton campaign? n/t

[Symarip]

8. Good question.

I thought referring to genitalia when speaking about women is considered sexist.

Oh but what do I know?

[reflection]

12. Don't ask me. I'm apparently "sexist" also.

[SemiCharmedQuark]

10. It annoys the hell out of me because it's such a sexist term

Being a male (having testicles) does NOT equal bravery or moxie or strength

[anonymous171]

11. Testicle envy?

:shrug:

[Justitia]

33. The only "balls" she has are Bill's, which she carries in her purse. -eom

[kid a]

7. Me Too! WooT!

Go Hillary!!

:toast:

[leftofcool]

9. She is a ball buster isn't she?

That is why we need her in the WH so she can kick some GOP ass

[gabeana]

18. yeah right

she did a good job of standing up to Bush didn't she, That McCain Gas Tax she loves, oh yeah and that support of cluster bombs

talk about delusional

[IsItJustMe]

71. I think the problem is that she is more interested in breaking dem balls and not so much rep balls.

[Beregond2]

14. She went

over the cliff in February. Now she is just twitching on the rocks at the bottom. That doesn't take balls; it is involuntary spasming.

[bowens43]

15. the woman is a clown. A sad pathetic clown.

[seabeyond]

16. ahhhhm. al yawl using balls in every manner yet freak sexism when using bitch

even i can see the hypocrisy of that.

[Erin Elizabeth]

17. I remember once a while back Obama was

addressing the experience issue and he said it's important to remember that it's not only experience that's important, but good judgement, as well. Experience without good judgement is useless. But with good judgement, you can successfully handle most things.

I think it's great when someone is a fighter. I think it's even better when they have the good judgement to be able to weigh the costs and the benefits of a fight to make sure it's really worth it and not just keep on digging that hole just to say they're still digging it.

This is just another area, along with integrity, where I feel Clinton is sorely lacking: good judgement.

[Kaylee]

19. I'm getting tired of this attempt to emasculate Barack Obama....

by Clinton and her supporters. He as much of strong, successful MAN as she is a strong, successful WOMAN.

[BlooInBloo]

25. Seeing republican tactics now is EXCELLENT practice for the big game.

[Kaylee]

35. Fine she "vetted" him....

he's proven he can fight back, let's have the LOSING democratic challenger ease up a bit now.

[BlooInBloo]

37. That's completely her call. Unless and until she does, we fight her Whites Only strategy.

[RememberWellstone]

47. He is weak, untested, full of fluff

The list is long and exhaustive. He is nothing what he presents himself to be. Nothing.

[Kaylee]

53. At this point of the "conversation", I'll just pretend ignore still works.

There is no sense in me raising my blood pressure arguing with someone who can only throw out ugly, ad hominem attacks. Either way, he will be our nominee.

[stray cat]

20. Republicans and MSM agree with you

[tridim]

31. Rush does too.

[anonymous171]

21. She doesn't have any balls, literally or figuratively.

[MannyGoldstein]

22. Pickett's Charge

That man had balls.

[BlooInBloo]

28. Battle of the BULGE, perhaps?

:rofl:

[gcomeau]

24. ...but not as a viable candidate.

I'm truly sympathetic for the position you find yourself in, but not to the point where I'm indulging fantasies as long as Clinton insists on continuing to run. She will most certainly go on to Denver, as a member of the democratic party who will be participating in the process of getting behind Obama for the run against McCain. As a prominent, important such member. But not as anything more. There's no longer any chance in hell of that. Before last night there was a chance of her still going as a candidate that was still definitely going to lose but might cause a ruckus on the way down... but no longer. The nomination will now be completely locked up well in advance of Denver whether she's still calling herself a candidate in the running or not.

[Justitia]

26. Senator Spoiler is looking more & more like a joke every minute of the day. -eom

[stray cat]

29. Bush is also a strong-willed leader who fights on regardless of reality

[skipos]

30. She is a fighter!!!

She would fight Mother Theresa over the last piece of pizza! She will say and do anything to get what she wants! GO HILLARY!!! :woohoo:

[cali]

32. Maybe Hillary will introduce our nominee, Barack Obama at the convention

but she won't be fighting for the nomination there. She's truly done.

[JackORoses]

34. she's not on the edge of the cliff, she's on her way to the ground

[onenote]

36. for some reason, when I read the OP, this is what popped into my head

[mckeown1128]

38. Clinton supporters envoke "balls" as act of sexism....

again the facination with Hillary's balls. Yep... Hillary's candidacy has been so good for the woman's movement... Let's invoke more male symbols to represent a woman. :sarcasm:

[RememberWellstone]

42. Nitpicking

She is what she is...she is a fighter much like Paul was. She has refused to quit and I dig that!

[mckeown1128]

54. Let her keep fighting the quick sand...

she'll just sink quicker.. I mean seriously... she should drop because she doesn't have a shot in hell of winning anymore... but she "keeps fighting" and her supporters eat it up... it is really pathetic.

[Crunchy Frog]

41. The Black Knight always triumphs!

[rodeodance]

44. REC

[JimGinPA]

45. Don't Forget Your Pots & Pans

[intaglio]

51. Fighting on the edge of a cliff

Not a good idea


I think the "Ten Million Dollar Babe" needs someone to shut off the life support. All she is doing is making herself a laughing stock

[ShortnFiery]

57. Yes, let HRC destroy "the democratic party" and "down ticket" because it's all about THE CLINTONS?

The Clintons need to be SHUT DOWN by the "illustrious" superdelegates. I swear, if they WAIT too long and our party is trashed, I'm taking notes on those GUTLESS WONDERS (superdelegates) who WAITED to commit.

It's TIME NOW! Not May 20th. Not June 3rd. TAKE HER OUT OF THE RACE NOW!!!

[MadHound]

61. You know, it would really be nice if she had some brains instead

But judging by the way she's run her campaign, and her ongoing stupidity in pursuing a nomination she has no chance of achieving, it is apparent that her lack of grey matter is significant, and seriously hampering her

[jerryster]

78. No chance? Don't be so sure.

I'm an Obama supporter. I chose to reply to your post on this thread because, as I have posted before, Hillary is correct when she says this is not over.

She will continue to argue that she beat Sen Obama in the states we need to win in November, NOT including MI and FL. I realize that IN goes Repub in Presidential elections so Obama's losing there yesterday may be immaterial. However, it is our neighboring state and he lost. Not by much at all, but he lost.

I think the super delegates may still have Hillary's arguments in mind. Otherwise I have to believe they would have all been off the fence this morning. Other than McGovern ( a man I respect tremendously)calling for her to drop out there hasn't been a cascade of supers announcing for Obama.

I also have to admit that, rather than her being delusional, she wants to show that she is a fighter. Remember, both our candidates have obstacles to overcome that McCain doesn't. Hillary has to PROVE that she's tough. Do you think McCain has to do that? And McCain's temper?
He's taken control of it and I doubt he'll lose that control. However, if he does the Repubs will spin it as passion. Obama has the opposite problem. As an African American panelist said on MSNBC last night, Obama does not DARE show anger. If he does he will then be perceived as an ANGRY BLACK MAN and he's done.

Finally, I believe it's possible that she wants to be able to say to her supporters that she played it out to the very end, rather than saying "I give up". So let Hillary fight on. It will be important to see how Obama responds. My prediction is that this will be a very close election again. Repubs are lousy at governing but good at winning elections. This primary fight may actually be good preparation for the GE.

[Fox Mulder]

64. God I hope not.

[smalll]

65. On to W. Virginia, on to Kentucky, on to Puerto Rico, ON TO DENVER!!!!

GOMAMA! It's not over yet! Barack still has more than enough time to screw up. Wrightgate, Part III anyone?

[Catherina]

66. Thank goodness

there aren't that many delusional people following her lead

[NJSecularist]

67. I have gained infinitely more respect for Hillary during these primaries.

She just won't be denied. She just has a drive to win. Losing is abhorrent to every bone in her body. In the face of idiots like Russert telling her everyday she can't go on, she ignores them and soldiers on. She should be a role model to everyone. She might take a punch and fall down, but she'll get right back up and be better than ever.
'

[mamalone]

73. But why is that admirable???

Seriously.... I want to know....

I just don't all get this "She's a fighter! Isn't that special!" stuff Why is it so wonderful to fight, especially when it seems she is fighting just for the sake of fighting. Isn't working things out a better option? Saving the fight for when there is no other option? Knowing when to reserve one's stregth or change one's tactics?

You know, I deal with pre-schoolers who have special needs. We have one little guy with some serious emotional issues... the kid's a fighter all right, and it's one of the saddest things you'll ever see. Unless there is a serious and miraculous change in this little guy's make-up he will be one unhappy fella for the rest of his life. Lately Hillary is reminding me a lot of him.

Part of being an adult is knowing when to give up.

[WillyT]

69. Any Information On How The Delusional Do At High Altitudes ???

:shrug:

[mkultra]

77. sorry but this seems a bit loony at this point

39 more delegates and Obama has the majority. Her only plans for winning are morally bankrupt.

1) try to swing supers away from their constituencies.
2) Try to get MI and FL included.
3) sue.


Fighting is fine but i think you have to be on the side of right to be considered noble.

[kwenu]

79. Oh my! Are you suggesting that you need balls to be powerful?

:sarcasm:

I thought Hillary supporters had a strict no-sexism code.