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Maribelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 02:52 PM
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Democrats Abroad Automatic Delegate Theresa Morelli Endorses Hillary
    Democrats Abroad Automatic Delegate Theresa Morelli announced her support for Hillary Clinton today. Morelli lives in Milan, Italy.

    "The fact that she has devoted her life to helping children and those less fortunate speak volumes about Hillary Clinton’s character," Morelli said. "She has not only an incredible grasp of the issues facing America, but a track record of delivering real results. Hillary is the strongest Democratic candidate to beat John McCain in November and restore America’s standing in the world."

    "Hillary's championing of election reform and introducing of Count Every Vote Act goes hand in hand with Democrats Abroad launching of www.votefromabroad.org the most effective and comprehensive voter registration and absentee ballot request tool online."

http://www.hillaryclinton.com/news/release/view/?id=7513


:bounce: Congratulations Hillary! You deserve this!
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flor de jasmim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 02:53 PM
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1. PLEDGED, not automatic.
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 02:56 PM
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3. Don't you know?? That's the NEW Hillaryland lingo
it came in the same package as 'If Democrats held their nominating process like the republicans did I'd be the nominee by now', and 'I'm ahead in electoral votes'. x(
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Maribelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 03:07 PM
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12. Wrong. The DNC rules for delegates refers to 'automatic delegates' not 'super-delegates'.
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 03:16 PM
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21. We've had this conversation - it's the 'special' language you use with other DNC members
except the DNC members I know use the term 'super delegate' as does Howard Dean and the majority of other super delegates.

Only you, Hillary Clinton and her supporters use the words 'automatic delegate'

I guess that's why it's your 'special' term.

How nice.
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Maribelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 03:34 PM
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31. Wrong again. That's strike three on your part
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 07:17 PM
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40. Please link to where anyone other than the Clinton camp uses the term
'automatic delegate' outside the DNC Convention rule book....

They use the term 'super delegate'.

It's odd how the folks in Hillaryland insist on quoting the rule book, and yet refuse to read it when it comes to the earlier decisions made by the Rules and By-Laws Committee members. Hmmmmm :eyes:



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Maribelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 02:58 PM
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4. Wrong. She is an Automatic Delegate: superdelegate.
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olkaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 03:08 PM
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13. Then call it a superdelegate!
Seriously, what is the point of trying to change the word?

I mean, if we're going to change that, then why not change "pledged" delegates to "nerfherder" delegates, and elected superdelegates to "scooby-snack" delegates, and unelected superdelegates to "crunk-juice" delegates, and so on?
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Maribelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 03:11 PM
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15. Actually 'Automatic Delegate' is a more correct application of the term.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 03:13 PM
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18. How? Half of HIllary's strategy has been reminding everyone
That NO delegate has to vote any way other than their conscience. What's automatic about that?
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 03:14 PM
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19. Prove it. eom
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 03:18 PM
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22. She doesn't have to prove it
It just IS :crazy:
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Maribelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 03:35 PM
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32. Try following the thread.
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Diane R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 02:55 PM
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2. What's an 'automatic' delegate? You mean like a robot, or something?
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 03:00 PM
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5. Good news.
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Maribelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 03:40 PM
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35. As you can see, emily, Obama's cult goes into meltdown whenever Hillary gets a 'good news' thread.
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olkaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 03:00 PM
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6. "Deserve" : The entitlement of Hillary Clinton.
Honestly, that notion repulses me more than even the worst character attacks on Obama.

She "deserves" nothing. A candidate must convince the American people to support her/him. There is no "deserving" of our highest office. Ever. And the notion resembles a monarchy more than our democracy in action.

And there's no such thing as "automatic" delegates.

Good lord.
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Maribelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 03:09 PM
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14. Deserve, to many, means something you've earned.
Sorry if you're poor in English.
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olkaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 03:15 PM
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20. I couldn't expect any less.
Than an insult along with some language parsing. Bravo!

I'm sorry, but "earning" the honor of our nomination means reaching 2025 delegates. It's not some sort of intangible feel-good notion that you come up with from your gut.

Also, I made note of it because I find the idea of her being entitled to the nomination (and furthermore, presidency) because of this idea of "deserving" it - ubiquitous throughout the Pro-Clinton blogosphere and forums.

Maybe you haven't realized it yet, but that notion is patently anti-democratic.

(I know you're still waiting, but I'm really not going to insult you. I think honest people can have disagreements.)
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Maribelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 03:38 PM
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33. Oh brother
Why don't you Obama followers feel free to start you're own thread to bash Hillary. Do you always have to swarm like gnats over all threads that are positive for Hillary?


This is so freakin old.
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olkaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 03:45 PM
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37. I went out of my way to be congenial, and look.
"you Obama followers.."

"always have to swarm like gnats.."

Anyway, besides that, when you posts words like "deserve" and "automatic delegate", you're going to get a response, like it or not.

And it's old? Should the Clinton plan come to fruition, the convention is a **long** way away. Steel yourself, if you're tired of it now, it's going to be intolerable by Denver.
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Maribelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 03:55 PM
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38. Your false statement 'And there's no such thing as automatic delegates'
Edited on Mon May-05-08 03:55 PM by Maribelle
was argumentative at best, and totally deceptive. DNC rules do not mention superdelegates, however, do mention automatic delegates.

Don't forget I cannot hear the tone of your voice, as you cannot mine. If you blatantly and falsely contradict my post, you are being argumentative and not hardly as you say 'congenial'.

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DMorgan Donating Member (363 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 03:38 PM
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34. Hillary has squandered everything she had, money, delegates, favorability...
Edited on Mon May-05-08 03:39 PM by DMorgan
She's now in second place, and wants the rules broken and for Michigan to count to get her closer to first place.

That's not "EARNING" anything. That's what we democrats and law-abiding citizens call "CHEATING" to get what she wants!
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Maribelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 03:41 PM
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36. If you're having trouble sticking to the subject of this thread ...
please feel free to just sod off and start your own thread bashing Hillary.
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TheDoorbellRang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 03:01 PM
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7. And she's worth 1/2 vote
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 03:01 PM
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8. So today, it's six for Obama, one-half for Clinton
Edited on Mon May-05-08 03:02 PM by IWantAnyDem
Morelli only gets half a vote.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 03:02 PM
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9. there is no such thing as an automatic delegate.
it's simply double speak. Hilly double speak that you're parroting. And guess what Obama got 6 SD endorsements today.

Normally it's my practice to congratulate Hillary and her supporters here for any notable endorsements. Using the fake term automatic delegates deprived me of that pleasure.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 03:06 PM
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11. you and I are usually on the same page, but I don't find the use of the term "automatic" delegate
particularly offensive. In a sense, it is accurate -- super delegates "automatically" have the right to attend and vote at the convention.

Of course, its all just playing games with words.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 03:18 PM
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23. my problem with it is that Super Delegates have always been
referred to as Super Delegates. I'm not comfortable with people trying to change words for they own benefit- and clearly when Clinton's aide Harold Ickes started pushing this, they thought it worked to their benefit.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 03:04 PM
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10. HRC's campaign refers to "super delegates" as automatic delegates
because the particular indviduals who are "super delegates" are automatically entitled to attend and vote at the national convention. Other delegates are not "automatic" in the sense that they have to be picked via a primary, caucus or convention.
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Maribelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 03:13 PM
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17. DNC delegate rules DNC rules Page 11 Section 9 E = automatic delegate
you cannot find the term super-delegate in the dnc rule book
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Jersey Devil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 03:21 PM
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27. ROFL
What's it say in that rule book about pulling rabbits out of hats, 'cause that's what Hillary would have to do to win?
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 03:24 PM
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29. The poster is accurate in that the DNC rulebook says nothing about super delegates
However for the last 20-25 years the term has been used to define the 'automatic' delegates to the national convention. (Those who don't have to go through the caucus/convention process to be allowed a vote at the convention).

Still, we are all used to one term and Hillaryland decided to use another term. Silliness.
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Maribelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 03:57 PM
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39. The part you are leaving out: The DNC rule book does mention automatic delegates.
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 07:26 PM
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41. Since I was referencing your response it was implied
I don't disagree that the rule book uses the term 'automatic delegates' however members of the DNC, including the Chairman, use the term 'super delegate' when speaking of the delegates that are not 'pledged' delegates (unless of course the person talking is from the Clinton campaign....where there is no such thing as a 'pledged' delegate).

If you are such a stickler for using only the terms and rules set out in the DNC rule book do you agree that the Rules and By-Laws Committee members had the option - within the rules - to strip Florida and Michigan of ALL their delegates to the national convention?
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 03:11 PM
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16. Obama has picked up four more superdelegates today; Clinton has picked up none.
Edited on Mon May-05-08 03:12 PM by ProSense
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 03:19 PM
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24. Yes, but how many 'automatic' delegates has Obama picked up?
:eyes:
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 03:20 PM
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26. Yikes, her lead in SDs is down to 15. Or 15.5 with this lady in Italy.
Personally I think the reason the Clinton supporters keep going on about the 'automatic' term is to distract people's attention from the fact that they're trying to rewrite the rules on other subjects :-)
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futureliveshere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 03:22 PM
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28. 6 actually.... Isn't this a SD for HRC then?
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 03:20 PM
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25. today Obama 6 Clinton 1/2 (DA = 1/2)
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 03:26 PM
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30. What was the hymn they played on the deck of the Titanic?
Nearer My God to Thee? She's going down, people.
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