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gabeana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 10:29 PM
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LA election is not "good" for Hillary
Blows her argument of elect ability because the repug went after the Dem candidate through Obama and he won
Obama by far is the stronger candidate down ticket and the SD know or are now being made very aware of it tonight.

This is big plus for Obama because with him dems have a stronger ability to add to the majority in congress

overall a very good day for Obama
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 10:34 PM
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1. I can imagine that Hillary is right now saying, "Damn! The Democrat won!"
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 10:37 PM
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3. LOL!
:rofl:


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FARAFIELD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 10:37 PM
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4. BWAHHHHH!!!!
The only thing she didnt do was buy the adds, Im glad there was an actual vote there in a district that has been repuke for 33 years!!!!!
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 11:04 PM
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14. Do we really know who bought those ads?? Didn't a certain snakeheaded creature move back to LA ??
:evilgrin:

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my3boyz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 04:26 AM
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26. Damn that man is ugly! Mary is not a prize either! ugh....nt
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blue sky at night Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 10:42 PM
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6. wow, are you good with a hammer!
damn straight she is saying that, all repubs are.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 10:43 PM
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7. That's right...the Democrat was
in her way.
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Frances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 10:45 PM
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8. Look, I'll support Obama 100% in the election if
he is the nominee which I think he will be.

But to say that Hillary is Republican is plain ignorant--like where were you in the 90s?

And Obama has recently given high praise to Republican Senator Lugar of Indiana.

You can support a candidate with the truth. Silly comments about his opponent just makes you seem silly. We don't want that charge to rub off on Obama.
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my3boyz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 04:27 AM
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27. That was then this is now. Now she kisses Republicans' ass. nt
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Frances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 07:18 PM
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31. Actually, Obama has been much more complimentary of
Reagan and other Republicans than Hillary has. Obama is proud of the many Republicans who are supporting him.

That's because Obama is running for change, which means including Republicans.

I, for one, don't trust the Republicans, but if Obama can get them to vote for him in the general, more power to him.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 10:51 PM
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11. What a Plus for Democrats
Edited on Sat May-03-08 10:51 PM by goclark
I can just see how supportive Obama will be to the down ticket candidates.

It;s not "all about me" with Obama.

Ps/ Love your quote ~ bet that was said just like that :)
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4themind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 10:37 PM
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2. Hopefully eleceted representatives will learn that
Edited on Sat May-03-08 10:37 PM by 4themind
they can win if, they follow obama's lead, and don't run for cover at the mention of wright, but push back against it as a diversion from the issues they originally cared about.
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NJSecularist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 10:39 PM
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5. The most important thing is the main ticket.
It's nice that Obama does good down ticket, but even in the worst case scenario, we still have a majority in the Senate and the House.

The most important thing is winning the presidency. Supreme Court justices are far more important than an additional Senate or House seat.

We need to nominate Hillary if we want to win the main ticket.
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Brundle_Fly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 10:48 PM
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9. isn't it Supreme Court Justices
that find their way to power, via the senate?
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NJSecularist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 10:56 PM
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12. Yes, but they get appointed by the President.
So without a Democratic president, it doesn't matter how many Senate seats we have, we are going to get a Supreme Court Justice that isn't a liberal..
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my3boyz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 04:29 AM
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28. Obama will be the president. nt
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aaaaaa5a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 10:49 PM
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10. This Is Huge News Against Clinton....
I think her best argument which has been used behind the scenes to Super-delegates was just OBLITERATED tonight. If Obama is not a down-ticket drag in November, what case does she have?

The two times Obama's coat-tails have been put to the test, (Illinois and Louisiana) both seats flipped and went from red to blue.

With tonight's news, I honestly wish someone had a reasonable argument as to how Clinton is going to be the nominee.
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Pisces Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 10:58 PM
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13. The Repukes are fucked!!!!! Gobama!!
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my3boyz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 04:31 AM
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29. I know..They have to be stunned. The are probably going to say it does not
matter because John McCain is a different kind of republican.
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livingmadness Donating Member (347 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 04:34 AM
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30. They certainly are ...
Edited on Sun May-04-08 04:34 AM by livingmadness
For all that people bemoan and wail about Obama's chances in the GE, recent polling showed that the general electorate is significantly more concerned about Bush/McCain than Obama/Wright. And given the constant media pile-on re: Wright, that is really, REALLY not good for the Republicans. They'll be having heart-failures at the moment, you can count on it!!! Why else would they have engaged in such vicious attacks so early (and through the media by-proxy)??? GOBAMA!!
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gabeana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 11:50 PM
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15. Besides not being good for Hillary not a good day
for the MSM, I'm sure they had headlines ready Obama/Wright hurt congressional dems you know something like that
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 12:15 AM
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16. WP: In Special Elections, GOP Tests Anti-Obama Strategy
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/05/02/AR2008050203648.html

in the run-up to Saturday's special election, the state representative's image popped up time and again in local television ads, paired with that of Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.). One spot had side-by-side photos of Cazayoux and Obama with the words "big government scheme" describing the local candidate's stance on health care. Another showed Cazayoux with Obama and Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and charged that Cazayoux supports a "radical liberal agenda." Another spot mocked him as "Don Tax You."

Faced with the prospect of losing a seat that the GOP has held for the past 33 years and the further thinning of their ranks in Congress, Republican committees and their conservative allies have poured more than $1 million into an effort to turn the race for Louisiana's 6th Congressional District into a referendum on Obama, the Democratic front-runner for the White House.

And this Baton Rouge-based district's ad war, which is being fought largely on policy positions, is softball compared with the high and tight pitches Republicans are throwing in northern Mississippi. With a surprisingly competitive House special election there set for May 13, Republicans are running ads showing the Democratic candidate with Obama; his former pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr.; and outtakes from Wright's controversial sermons.

Having shed their belief that Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (N.Y.) would be the bigger drag on down-ticket Democrats in the fall, congressional Republicans are field-testing a potential general-election strategy that pins Democratic candidates to Obama. It comes just as Wright reclaimed the national spotlight this week with a series of controversial appearances, sparking new questions about how white working-class voters will respond to Obama's candidacy.

If their strategy succeeds here in the Deep South over the next 10 days, GOP strategists expect to take it nationwide. "We like the way that's unfolding," Rep. Tom Cole (Okla.), chairman of the National Republican Congressional Committee, told reporters this week, adding that he would like to see races become debates about broad, "national" issues this year.

One of the NRCC ads in the Baton Rouge market suggested that "a vote for Cazayoux is a vote for Obama." Another 30-second spot asked simply: "Is Obama right for Louisiana? . . . You decide."

Obama's backers on Capitol Hill are watching anxiously, hoping Democratic victories in Louisiana and Mississippi will blunt Clinton's argument to uncommitted superdelegates that she would be a stronger general-election candidate.
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TheDonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 12:30 AM
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18. Interesting. Hopefully all goes well in MS to squash this
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 12:35 AM
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19. Isn't that the election where the Repubs voted for Hillary and landed up screwing
the Repub candidate cuz they voted in the Dem primary?

Too funny.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 12:27 AM
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17. excellent point and he probably picked up a SD too
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bhikkhu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 12:42 AM
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20. Hopefully the beginnings of a long story.
Thanks.
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BenDavid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 12:49 AM
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21. excuse me but hrc as well as obama and pelosi were used
against the democrat.

Republicans attempted to spin tonight's loss, which was closer than some recent polls had suggested, as a sign that Obama, Clinton and Pelosi are liabilities for Democrats in the fall campaign. In addition, the NRCC pointed out that special elections are not always reliable barometers for what happens in November.

The National Republican Congressional Committee and several conservative groups poured nearly $1 million into the race in an effort to tie Cazayoux to Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.), Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.) and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.). The ads called the state representative "too liberal" for the district, which had been held by Republicans since 1974. The Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee and labor unions responded with their own million-dollar ad blitz bashing Jenkins, a former state representative.


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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 12:53 AM
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22. The ads I saw only had Obama and Pelosi (on the youtube). May I ask where you are
getting your information from?
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Mooney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 01:00 AM
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23. But shouldn't the ad have been effective simply because Obama was in it?
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DerekJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 01:01 AM
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24. The ad had Obama only in it.. I'm not sure which Ad is he speaking about?!
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 04:23 AM
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25. Yes
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