From Dailykos - Bayh memo bashing Clinton re:Magnequench hits papers tommorow!

[Skwmom]

From DAILYKOS

Then he threw the bombshell. He stated that a memo from Evan Bayh has surfaced in which Bayh blames the Clinton's for the closing of the Magnequench plant in Vapraiso, Indiana, and this memo is due to hit the presses tomorrow (and hopefully will change the fucking conversation). Howey also set the stage by stating that Hillary had been campaigning 2 weeks ago on this plant closing, blaming it on Bush, and that this had been effective tactic for her.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/5/2/19192/52275/502/508000

[thewiseguy]

1. Yes the MSM will sure start talking about it!

:sarcasm:

[Skwmom]

2. Obama has the MONEY to run an ad. He should put it out on radio and tv.

He should show the footage of her blaming Bush (if available) then portions of the memo.

[thewiseguy]

3. Obama will never do that.

[Skwmom]

6. The ad would be the TRUTH.

[thewiseguy]

20. I know its the truth but Obama wont hit her on that.

[VolcanoJen]

26. They'll be all over it!!!!!

[shadowknows69]

54. First thing Wednesday

[Coexist]

4. lets see if its too late or not.

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[Adelante]

7. Welcome to DU

Enjoy your visit :hi:

[AllentownJake]

9. LOL

A memo written by her biggest supporter in the state blaming the Clinton Administration for a plant closing she has made an issue on is slime?

[truth-warrior]

16. This is being leaked by the Obama campaign - duh.

[thewiseguy]

22. Do you have a source for that or is this an ASSumption by you?

[truth-warrior]

25. Just like that doctored tape of Kantor, the

sleazy Chitown gang is behind it.... no doubt!

[thewiseguy]

36. The link to the tape was forwarded to media by members of this forum and other bloggers

It had nothing to do with the Obama camp.

[truth-warrior]

44. Yes, the wise netroots... lol ... fooled again!

And check again, it was posted on youtube by a "friend" of the Obama campaign.

[thewiseguy]

72. A friend of the Obama campaign? You really are going out on a limb here!

Whatever a friend of the Obama campaign means. ;)

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[VolcanoJen]

30. So did Bayh criticize her on the closing of the plant, or was the memo "doctored"

:shrug:

[Catherina]

84. Not doctored but written under the jarred nerves of Bosnian sniper fire n/t

:hi:

[AllentownJake]

31. If its a real memo

From Bayh than its not slime. If it is made up it is.

[truth-warrior]

38. You mean like the real tapes of Wright and real

Rezco connections were A-okay? Good to know.
Thanks for clarifying your position.... good to know you have the integrity to not have a double standard.

[IrishBloodEngHeart]

42. do the clintons really want to start guilt by association?

Because nobody spends more time in the gutter than the Clintons.

[truth-warrior]

46. Bring. It. On.

Obama's moral compass is nuts!

[AllentownJake]

47. Little Different

She's running around using this plant as an example of outsourcing....if it turns out that her biggest supporter in the state blamed her husband when it closed that is a news story.

Wright is a Pastor and we don't want to go down the Clinton Sketchy donor list. You found one guy. Clinton has 30 people that were sketchy and quite a few that are already in jail.

[Skwmom]

21. According to Clinton Logic it is. But heck, they think we are all stupid.

[Skwmom]

10. Letting the middle class see how they are being played by the Clintons sounds like change to me.

As they say, the truth will set you free (and it would definitely free the Democratic Party).

[rodeodance]

19. can you please stop insulting Hillary supporters. It is NOT 'the Clintons"--that is RW talk.

[Skwmom]

37. The RW is now tight with the Clintons. Plus, it is the CLINTONS.

Have you talked to OH and PA voters. It's the Hill and Bill tour, the two for one, Bill's third term, and according to some, "We really know Bill will be calling the shots."

On edit: It is the Clintons who insults their supporters, who DISRESPECT them by constantly lying to them.

[rodeodance]

62. You are no progressive when your smear Hillary just like the RW!!

[emilyg]

11. Welcome to DU.

[truth-warrior]

23. Thank you!

:hi:

[blm]

12. Really? Obama camp wrote the Bayh memo? Are you sure?

You think this ISN'T Bayh - famous DLCer - working an angle to get himself on the ticket as VP knowing full well that Obama has this sewn up?

You must not know Bayh very well. But you are welcome to blame it on Obama campaign if it makes you feel better.

[truth-warrior]

18. The O-machine leaked it - duh.

[Skwmom]

24. Well Truth Warrior you should be ALL FOR leaking the TRUTH.

[blm]

40. Evan Bayh WROTE IT - duh. And Bayh camp likely leaked it, too, because he wants on the ticket

with Obama.

[truth-warrior]

41. Now that is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard.

Are you a conspiracy nut or something?
Bayh is a winner - and he wouldn't touch an Obama ticket with a 10 foot pole!
Obama will prove to be more toxic than Kerry. Lol.

[blm]

51. You're fucking with eagles.....better learn to fly first, kiddo.

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[truth-warrior]

56. Read the BCCI reports and tell me Kerry isn't up to his eyeballs

in the coverup. He is clearly tight with the BFEE.

[blm]

64. I read it in great detail - Kerry WROTE the report and kept the investigation alive for over 5 yrs

while most of DC was working against him.

YOUR Clintons deep-sixed all the outstanding matters Kerry wrote about and his request for further scrutiny on all those matters was treated HOW by Clinton and Clinton's DOJ throughout the 90s?

BCCI was brought to this country by Jackson Stephens - the man who bankrolled Clintons careers and underwrote Bill's primary campaign. All to protect Poppy Bush who expected to be IMPEACHED when the Dec 1992 BCCI report was released.

You NEVER read it or you wouldn't have made such an absurd remark about Kerry.

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[blm]

69. The cover up was done by those stonewalling the documents he requested - Bush and Clinton WH

or did you manage to skip all the pages of matters that Kerry clearly stated required FURTHER SCRUTINY?

[blm]

67. So...who were you BEFORE? You did have another DU name here didn't you?

.

[Skwmom]

43. Blm you are good and probably right!

[truth-warrior]

49. You guys better stock up on the tinfoil.

:tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat:

[blm]

58. why? You think Joe Andrew HASN'T spoken to Bayh about these matters? If so, then you don't know

Joe Andrew OR Bayh.

[Skwmom]

78. The political world is awash with double dealings, self serving actions, scheming,

backstabbing, etc. I don't think any tinfoil is required.

[blm]

65. Just found this from an appearance by Andrew - I am DEAD ON about his pushing Bayh

MSNBC's "Morning Joe"

Joe Andrew: "You know one of the reasons I've switched is because Barack Obama has inspired me to get out of this political theater. ... We need to take this game and play it better than the other side."

"This is about my personal decision," said Andrew, "and I made it at a time when people in my home state knew what I felt."

On Indiana Sen. Evan Bayh: "I think is eminently qualified to be president, which is the first qualification to be vice president. And I think it would be great for Barack Obama to pick someone who is a Clinton supporter to heal the rift and bring the party together."
>>>>>

[StevieM]

17. He's really not a nice person. On the brighter side....welcome to DU! (eom)

[newmajority]

27. More trolls from the Al From slime machine.

Do you have any socks left for your FEET??

[Adelante]

32. Hahaha

:D

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[Skwmom]

50. Homophobe? Hmm.... you must tell that to the gay fundraisers that are

raising boatloads of money for Obama. Boy, are they ever fooled.

[truth-warrior]

55. The GLBT community supports Hillary 2:3 over Obama

The same ratio that supported Kerry over Bush.... yes, some are fooled, or hold different priorities than human rights.

[Veruca Salt]

87. So... as a lesbian who supports Obama....

yes, some are fooled, or hold different priorities than human rights

I am fooled or don't somehow support human rights?
:wtf:

[fascisthunter]

60. DLC=Corporate Pro-Fascist

crap.


Message to DLC: Thanks for holding your buddy Bush accountable, weasels.

[blm]

71. This is an old DUer with a new name - tired of eating granite, I guess.

.

[cliffordu]

35. I love the POPCORN!!! Anyone else??

:popcorn:

[Yael]

76. Hey! Welcome back to DU!

You were missed. :hug:











:sarcasm: --> for the sarcasm impaired....

[blm]

8. Good - I do have to say that when I heard Joe Andrew switched to endorse Obama

I figured that he was doing it to PRESERVE some chance for Obama to pick Bayh as his VP.

I know Bayh was solid with Hillary just two weeks ago, but no way is Joe doing this completely on his own. He's gone this public to preserve Bayh's chance on the ticket.

[Skwmom]

13. I can't IMAGINE Obama putting Bayh, a corporate Democrat on his ticket.

He'd constantly have to look over his shoulder. Plus, Bayh is now on record supporting the Clintons who are responsible for plant closings in Indiana. I must be missing something here.

[blm]

39. Oh - Bayh will stick tight with Clinton for the duration, but you can bet you'll hear Joe Andrew

pushing publicly for Obama to choose Bayh.

[blm]

75. Found this from a transcript of Joe Andrew's appearance on MSNBC - he IS pushing Bayh.

MSNBC's "Morning Joe"

Joe Andrew: "You know one of the reasons I've switched is because Barack Obama has inspired me to get out of this political theater. ... We need to take this game and play it better than the other side."

"This is about my personal decision," said Andrew, "and I made it at a time when people in my home state knew what I felt."

On Indiana Sen. Evan Bayh: "I think is eminently qualified to be president, which is the first qualification to be vice president. And I think it would be great for Barack Obama to pick someone who is a Clinton supporter to heal the rift and bring the party together."
>>>>

[Solomon]

14. Yeah but why are they waiting to release it?

It won't get picked up over the weekend. And on Monday it's old news that nobody heard.

[Solomon]

15. delete

[caligirl]

28. too bad it won't include other gross errors of judgement like

East Liverpool Ohio(toxic waste incinerator 1100 ft from an elementary school Bill swore he would never approve as he campaigned. He got into office and his supporter from Arkansas(Rose Law firm client and wealthy contributor) wanted it so he let it through. Kids have tested positive for mercury poisoning since then who had tested negative before it was approved and running.

[Skwmom]

59. I can't understand how their supporters can defend this. Would anyone like to try?

[caligirl]

77. simply low information voters, they don't read up on this stuff.

[Condem]

29. On a Saturday?

Great timing.

[washingdem]

34. Sweet.

[Raine]

45. Hopefully

this will get out there, it's dispicable and voters should know about it.

[futureliveshere]

48. SHIT, why did that reporter mention it today.

We all know the Clintons/Bayh can just make the story disappear. Wait, maybe thats why he mentioned it on national TV to ensure that the story has to be released. Thoughts?

[Yossariant]

52. Dailykos. 'Nuff said. Next we'll hear the usual whine that the MSM is covering it up.

:think:

[K Gardner]

53. A newspaper guy from Indiana was on MSM tonight talking about this.. said that

it was much more important to the people than Rev. Wright, which the anchor was trying to get him to talk about. Went into quite a bit of detail about it. Wish I had more detail, but wasn't paying much attention at the time.

[Bensthename]

57. Dont count on MSM going against their queen..

They are doing their damnedest to keep Wright going.

[Maribelle]

61. You know how those guys at the big cheeto are ragging on tweety and why ....

well thats exactly how many of Hillary's supporters feel about the Hillary Haters at the big cheeto, and how they've felt about tweety.

This warms my heart to see the anger at the big cheeto, truly.

After they way they pumped this morning's fiasco, I look forward to tomorrow. This is getting exciting.

[Eurobabe]

63. On Hairball this evening

they were buzzing about it. This should be interesting. Pass the popcorn? :popcorn: I like extra butter on mine. :D

[DemGa]

66. Good lord, another breathless "report" from "Daily Kos" -- NT

[bluestateguy]

70. So long, Rev. Wright

Hello Magnequench

[Samantha]

74. Do you think Hillary might become BITTER at having this

type of adverse publicity thrown out there three days before the Indiana primary?

Looks like she threw out the kitchen sink; and someone in return has pitched her campaign in the toilet. And that's exactly where it belongs.

Sam

[Bigleaf]

79. Why wouldn't this come out earlier? Interesting. Let's see where this leads.

[madrchsod]

82. it`s going no where because no one wants to report how bad it is

selling off the technology and patent rights to a main component in our weapons systems during clinton and bush `s administration is a non story. selling the mine in california to a foreign company that produces an essential element in the production of these components is a non story.

nothing to see..move along

[usregimechange]

80. Hitting what press? Is it up yet?

[madrchsod]

81. she knew her husband did nothing to stop it

and she knew that bush was`t going to anything to stop it either...

putting all the blame on bush for this is another lie she could be well caught in if anyone opened their eyes...to bad the media loves the wright story.


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http://www.allbusiness.com/company-activities-management/company-structures-ownership/6698118-1.html
Magnequench International, Inc.Reorganization. | Company Activities & Management > Company Structures & Ownership from AllBusiness.com


http://www.heritage.org/Research/AsiaandthePacific/wm1913.cfm
Magnequench: CFIUS and China's Thirst for U.S. Defense Technology

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"On Aug. 1, the office of Rep. Pete Visclosky, D-Ind., issued a statement indicating he and Sen. Evan Bayh, D-Ind., were mounting a "last-ditch" effort to halt the factory move to China. Citing the loss of 225 northwest Indiana jobs, Visclosky also expressed concern over the "transfer of sensitive defense technology to the People's Republic of China."

On Aug. 1, Bayh and Visclosky also sent a letter to the U.S. Department of the Treasury demanding all the facts of its investigation into its review of ---->Magnequench's 1995 sale<----- to a consortium that included Chinese interests and Magnequench's 2000 acquisition of the Valparaiso facility.


http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=34037
'Smart bomb' technology moving to China




i found all this with a simple google search..."Magnequench" and before one gets upset with the right wing sites read it closely and you`ll notice they blame both clinton and bush....

[flpoljunkie]

83. Talkingpointsmemo: Evan Bayh Memo Blames Clintons for Indiana Plant closing

Has this hit the presses yet?

Evan Bayh Memo Blames Clintons For Indiana Plant Closing

By Connie Manes - May 2, 2008, 11:02PM

Sounds like Senator Evan Bayh, Hillary and Bill Clinton will have some explaining to do on Sunday during her townhall meeting with George Stepenopolis on ABC.


A memo from Evan Bayh has surfaced in which Bayh blames the Clinton's for the closing of the Magnequench plant in Vapraiso, Indiana, and this memo is due to hit the presses tomorrow. Hillary's been campaigning for 2 weeks on this plant closing, blaming it on Bush, and that this had been effective tactic for her.

Opps...

Looks like Hillary's little credibility problem is about to surface again, and not a moment too soon I might add.

http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/2008/05/evan-bayh-memo-blames-clintons.php

[ej510]

85. This will not reach the MSM. Or they will not talk about it.

I am convinced.

[washingdem]

86. So where's this story?? It was supposed to be out today.