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RazBerryBeret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 07:02 PM
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Yay! for John Kerry.
speaking truth to power...(the media).

finally. as the article says, John Kerry was the 87,436th person to receive one of the three or four versions of the same Reverend Wright question MSNBC has been asking everyone it comes in contact with.

he puts her in her place.


WITT: Okay. He said it. A 20-year relationship. Reverend wright married him. He is the one who baptized a god parent. How personally painful is this for him? (Lots of mock concern and emotion here)

KERRY: Can I say something to you? Obviously it is painful and he said it. You folks need to let go of this. Television needs to stop dwelling on something that is in the past. I thought Barack Obama yesterday gave America his second big presidential moment of this campaign. The first when he spoke out about the issue of race. The second yesterday, when he made it clear, every one of the statements of the minister are just unacceptable. They're not the person that he knew before. Now let's move on to how we'll put people to work. How are you going to give people health care? How are you going to create jobs in america? What Barack Obama is offering in this gas price issue is real leadership. I mean, do we want people who sort of put their fingers in the wind and throw out an idea for the short term that is sort of politically pleasing, or do you want a here who stands up and says, no, what we need is to really lower gas prices by having a real energy policy, an intelligent policy that puts in place the incentives for renewable fuels and alternative fuels. That's what Barack Obama is doing. And it is you guys have to focus on the thing that really matter to the American electorate. The other thing is just worn out, old history now. This guy had his narcissistic moment and it is finished.

WITT: Okay. Point well taken. Did I say to begin, can I just say, sir, I knew you weren't going to like that question. On the record.

KERRY: Let's move on to the thing that really matter to people. I think people in America are tired of this stuff.

WITT: Okay.


http://www.redlasso.com/ClipPlayer.aspx?id=1669b75b-d1d1-4ed6-9052-70e2d82cae06
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 07:05 PM
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1. Fuck the mainstream media...fuck it in the ear
Thanks, John.
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Qutzupalotl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 07:16 PM
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8. Careful, that's how you get hearing AIDS!
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jimshoes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 07:24 PM
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16. Good one
:evilgrin:
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livingmadness Donating Member (347 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 07:05 AM
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50. That is fantastic - best laugh I've had all morning!!
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livingmadness Donating Member (347 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 07:06 AM
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51. Kerry was a real statesman, and the interviewer was NOT impressed!
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globalvillage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 07:07 PM
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2. Thank you John Kerry!
Thanks Raz. I've been looking for that video.
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jasmine621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 12:29 AM
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46. Too bad he couldn't be as forceful in 2004 for his own cause.
That's what's so amazing to me. Obama gets these folks to fight harder for him than they fought for themselves. Makes me believe that Hillary hate is a strong motivater. But when she is out of the picture, will these folks have 'buyers remorse?'
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 07:03 AM
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49. He actually did - the media didn't cover it
He is also not motivated out of hate -for Hillary or anyone. He is attacking the use of hate and character destruction. If you took the number of times he has mentioned Hillary Clinton since he endorsed Obama, you would find that as high as 80% of the references are positive. The NYT writes that the Clinton people harassed him, his family, his close friends and his aides.

If this were the general election and this were HRC attacked, he would be out there fighting this the same way - just as he defended HRC and WJC in the past.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 12:20 PM
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58. Show me where HRC defended or supported Kerry strongly on ANY news show in 2004.
I have seen DOZENS of public interviews given by Bill Clinton during his high profile book tour where he REPEATEDLY defended and supported Bush on the very Iraq decisions that Kerry, OUR DEM NOMINEE at the time, was attacking Bush.
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ray of light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 07:09 PM
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3. John Kerry, I love you! KEEP TELLING IT LIKE IT IS!!!
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RazBerryBeret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 07:11 PM
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4. exactly! finally someone has the courage!
I guess he's probably a little more pissed about this, since it happened to him in 04....
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GetTheRightVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 07:14 PM
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5. Thank you John Kerry for a well answered Q/A with Witt, great response !!
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RazBerryBeret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 07:16 PM
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7. If only more of our leaders could stand up like this.
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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 07:15 PM
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6. K&R!
Go Kerry!! Go Obama!! :kick: :patriot:
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 07:17 PM
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9. Thank you for posting the video -
This was a masterful put down of the Wright question - a major put down, civilly stated, grown - up, and suggesting where the attention should be. It was funny when she felt the need to excuse herself saying she knew he wouldn't like the question.
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RazBerryBeret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 07:19 PM
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12. that was funny, and I loved all the
emotion in her voice when she asked her question...and he DID put her in her place!!!
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 07:26 PM
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17. She was trying to push "Wright-as -Obama's-children's-godparent" but Kerry smacked her down.
:headbang:
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 07:18 PM
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10. Exactly how ANY Dem should give backup to another Democrat, especially our nominee.
.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 07:22 PM
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14. Umm, why wouldn't he give backup to Obama? Didn't he endorse him?
Or did he change his mind again while I wasn't looking? :think:
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 07:27 PM
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18. He backs up any Dem attacked unfairly. He even did it for HRC when Pentagon thug went after her
He has done it throughout his career, though reciprocation from others has been few and far between.
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ray of light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 07:38 PM
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21. Isn't there a youtube video of Kerry defending Hillary against swifboating?
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Applepie Donating Member (143 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 07:18 PM
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11. Speaking of being Presidential
Kerry is Presidential. We would be in a much better place if all the votes were counted.
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RazBerryBeret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 07:19 PM
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13. Yep! I voted Kerry
in Ohio.....and I highly doubt my vote was counted...
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YvonneCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 07:45 PM
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24. Absolutely true...
...a MUCH better place. That's my President, anyway.:patriot:
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 08:07 PM
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30. ..and if he had been anything like this in 2004.
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swishyfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 07:23 PM
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15. Did Kerry get some kind of charisma injection?
He seems so much cooler now. I guess it just goes to show what a political dogfight can do to a man.

Fortunately Obama is still cool as ever.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 07:29 PM
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19. If you think the man who uncovered more government corruption of BushInc than any lawmaker
in modern history is cool - then Kerry is as cool as ever.

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ray of light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 07:42 PM
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23. Kerry always had the charisma and the courage, the problem is that the
Democrats and others were always lacking so he had to do it alone.



Fighting corruption alone...looks pretty darn charismatic!
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MBS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 09:11 PM
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37. yes, indeed n/t
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YvonneCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 07:53 PM
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28. Saw him, in person...
...in October, 2004 and he had charisma then.:shrug: Didn't seem to need an injection...
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swishyfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 08:05 PM
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29. Gotta admit, he was kind of boring me, and I think I wasn't alone
Of course I voted for him.
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ray of light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 08:15 PM
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33. I saw him, saw Edwards, and met both of them, actually. And he's funny, charming, and
really interacts well with people of all ages and genders. Everyone in the room was excited to talk to him and he was treated like a rock star. People were photographing him; he was given hugs, he maintained eye contact and humorous one-on-one conversations.

Frankly, he was hot and he was cute and funny. The times I saw him on the campaign trail in front of 1000's, the crowds were WILD for him.

So, I imagine you're one of the few who didn't see his cute, funny, sincere, and charming side.

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swishyfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 08:18 PM
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34. I HEARD about that, but only got to see what my teevee showed me
I'll take your word for it though.
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YvonneCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 10:14 PM
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41. Your TV...
...didn't show you much, unfortunately. That was THEIR fault.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 09:10 PM
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36. Most of Kerry's campaign was left on the floor of news networks' editing rooms.
Dan Rather has admitted corporate media had to protect Bush for the favorable rulings they expected in his second term.
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YvonneCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 10:17 PM
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42. That's what I think, too...
Edited on Wed Apr-30-08 10:20 PM by YvonneCa
...blm. I posted this earlier:

>>>>>>>

Remember 'Pigpen' from the Peanuts cartoon strip...


...anyone? Everywhere Pigpen walked, he carried a 'dust-cloud' all spinning around him. It seemed as if he didn't do anything to cause it...it didn't require any effort on his part to create the cloud...but it was an integral part of the character 'Pigpen.' Pigpen himself didn't seem to be aware of the cloud. But the cartoon character...the caricature...would not have been the same without that dust-cloud.

The MSM (main-stream media), I think, is like Pigpen. They aren't really journalists anymore (well, maybe just a few still are). They just perpetually walk around, doing what they do (exploiting stories for ratings, creating caricatures out of real, honest-to-goodness Americans) without being aware of the effect they are having on those same stories, or people, or the country, or the Presidential race...and on and on. They just keep spinning. They keep creating new shows to fit what they think we (the public) want...and therefore will sell. But they seem oblivious to what they are doing.

Because I am a positive person (and a 'hope-monger') I really hoped the MSM, like we Democrats, had learned the lessons of 2000 and 2004: #1 for the MSM is WE NEED REAL JOURNALISM back. We need the MSM to uphold their civic responsibility to inform the American electorate. I thought, because of people like Bill Moyers and others who have spoken on this issue recently, that 2008 might be different.

But it seems the MSM heard something different and learned a different lesson. It was more like, "Countdown is doing well and it must be because Keith Olbermann discusses political things." And as a result, every new program has a new slant on politics (currently Obama vs Clinton vs McCain), but they beat the politics to death without ever getting into what REALLY made Keith different: issues like FISA, pre-emptive war, habeus corpus, torture, and the truth he spoke in his 'Special Comments.'

They may have heard some of us complain that the 2000 and 2004 elections were flawed (to put it kindly) and have responded with 'over-kill' on the statistical analysis. I don't know about others here...but speaking for myself...I can do without the constant poll results on TV (if I want to know, I know how to research it). What I really want to see are stories about our fragile voting process, ways to improve it so that Florida 2000 and Ohio 2004 NEVER happen again, stories on people like Debra Bowen (new SOS in California making a difference), Hillary's Senate legislation on the electoral process and who supports it, etc. You get the idea...REAL stories. About REAL concerns.

But, like Pigpen, the MSM just walks on...dust-clouds spinning higher and higher, bigger and bigger, and dirtier and dirtier. I wonder how dark and dirty those clouds will have to be before they notice them.


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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 10:23 PM
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44. heheh...that pretty much nails it.
.
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YvonneCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 10:12 PM
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40. I saw it, though...
...several times. :7
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ohtransplant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 07:33 PM
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20. Kerry is one of the best surrogates ever!
I too voted for him in Ohio in 2004 and would be proud to have him as my President today.

He said what everyone in Obama's camp should be saying over and over. The MSM needs to wake up to the real issues and pay less attention to hyperbole and distractions! (yeah...right.)
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ray of light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 07:52 PM
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27. Too bad the DNC didn't stand by JK in 2004 like this or you would have him in the WH today!
Sadly, there were a lot of people half-heartedly supporting him in the media--people like Carville, Bill Clinton, Terry McAulliffe, etc who caused the 2004 to be so close and thus easily stolen under the radar.

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democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 08:12 PM
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31. Very true. Kerry is doing more to stand up for Obama than the Clinton people did for him.
I think you are reaching by saying they are to blame, but they didn't help as much as they could.
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ray of light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 12:25 AM
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45. not 'reaching' at all. Remember who sat on numerous tv shows day in day out...
Carville, Brazille, Terry McAulliffe...

And did we hear about Kerry/Edward's policies from them and why those policies were more important than the spin the media was talking about?

Wasn't Carville around when John Stewart claimed (on that show with him) "You guys are hurting Americans!"

And wasn't Terry McAullife in charge of making sure that another election wouldn't get stolen like the one in 2000? Yet, he did NOTHING for 4 years to guarantee that our votes would be able to be counted!

Sorry...but it is not a reach to see that the Clintons were in charge of the DNC infrastructure and that they only used a tiny bit of that infrastructure to get a Democrat elected (be it JK, Howard Dean, or whowever would have been running.)
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 07:13 AM
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52. I think it was Begala on Crossfire - but you are completely on target
Carville and Begala, in particular, had more TV airtime than any other Democrats I can think of. Yet all there time was making snarky Bush or Cheney comments - that won over no one, but delighted people who hated Bush already. With Kerry, they trashed his campaign continuously - because Kerry was not like WJC (big news - THK likely would never had gone on a second date if he was) and that Kerry wasn't listening to WJC's (mostly wrong in retrospect) advice.

In addition to not hitting back at the nonsense - they JOINED it. They also NEVER spoke of any of Kerry's positions - positions that are the basis for nearly all the 2008 platforms. HRC has even plagiarized ways Kerry presented things. Even McCain has plagiarized how Kerry spoke of alternative energy/global warming. Carville has no problem explaining the importance of S-CHIP as a HRC accomplishment - Kerry was a co-sponsor and had sponsored with Kennedy the precursor bill. Much of the bill was written by Kerry.
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lisa58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 07:38 PM
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22. good stuff
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 07:47 PM
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25. Double Yay!!
:kick:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 07:52 PM
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26. I know who needs to lose this election..the
mediawhores and that wouldn't be good for hilary. We can't let them win again..how many more have to die because of the US media?

NOT THIS TIME.
THANK YOU, SENATOR, KERRY!
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 08:12 PM
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32. amen.
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MagickMuffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 09:03 PM
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35. The Headline at the top of the video: Kerry YELLS at MSNBC
:rofl: That's my man!

Me's :loveya: John Kerry.

Thanks for posting, RazBerryBeret.


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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 09:14 PM
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38. He's still the man
Go Kerry!
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Pavlovs DiOgie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 09:15 PM
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39. It would be great if Kerry would speak out on the Sunday
shows when lots of people will be paying attention. He should do the rounds and speak out just like he did in that interview!
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YvonneCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 10:21 PM
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43. He has been speaking out...
...regularly on the Sunday shows. Check the archive at johnkerry.com or kerryvision.
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TheDonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 12:32 AM
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47. Love JFK
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nsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 01:23 AM
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48. Kerry is the man!
I loved the way he started that: "Can I say something to you? ..." In other words: I'm about to call you on your bullshit.


Gosh, I wish Kerry had won in 2004. He would have been terrific.

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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 07:27 AM
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54. He would have, but I admire him even more for continuing to work
with quiet dignity on the issues important to him - even when his name is rarely mentioned and he gets little public credit. Consider what he has done on two critical issues:

- On Iraq, he has moved the party and the country behind the difficult for proud Americans to think notion that we need to set a deadline and get out - that the open ended occupation is harmful. Some of this is people tiring of the war - but remember we saw Vietnam on TV every night and it was tough to reach that consensus then - and Kerry helped on that too.

- On global warming, Kerry was the entire Congressional delegation, because of votes scheduled late the week before and early the next week. He was there and had been involved in a lot of the preliminary work that led to getting a treaty. That was an exceptional accomplishment. Remember the lame coverage of Bali. Here is what the The President’s chairman of the Council on Environmental Quality, James Connaughton, spoke before the SFRC hearing chaired by Senator Menendez. Mr. Connaughton was part of the President’s delegation who attended the second week of the Bali Conference. Because of the Senate schedule, Senator Kerry flew 40 hours round trip to spend 36 hours as the sole US Congressional representative to the conference. At a SFRC hearing earlier this year, Mr. Connaughton, who represented President Bush said:
“I would particularly also want to call out thanks to Senator Kerry for coming to Bali. I would note that the remarks he gave in Bali were very constructive in helping to educate the international community on the needs, what it would take for America to move forward together in a bi-partisan way. I thought those remarks were very well received. Senator Kerry, thank you for that.”
http://www.senate.gov/~foreign/hearings/2008/hrg080124p.html
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DemVet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 07:16 AM
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53. No wonder Kerry lost last time.
He doesn't realize that the American people DO care about character.
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Inuca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 07:45 AM
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55. This is PRECIOUS
Yes, character matters. And Kerry and Obama have more in their little fingers than both Clintons put together.
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RazBerryBeret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 08:23 AM
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57. I guess that explains why america
elected a man who's family has ties to the Bin Laden family---yes, I know the election was a sham...but still it was close, proving at least 40% voted stupidly.
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ray of light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 03:39 PM
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59. Character? Like getting a bj from a woman not your wife is character? OR like
being buddy-buddy with the Bushies shows character?

Sorry. But your point is so Orwellian that it's BUSH-LIKE!

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DemVet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 07:36 AM
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60. Please. Try to bring your A game next time.
Your points are worthless...trying to defend Kerry by accusing other people. You have no argument.
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 07:47 AM
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56. K & R
:thumbsup:
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