Rev. Wright Quickly Dismissed the Notion that Obama believed in Any of the Controversial things....

[MadBadger]

That Wright himself said. When Moyer's asked him if he ever heard Obama say any of those things, he quickly replied, "No, No, No" clearly saying that all that talk is ridiculous. So when Reverand Wright said that Obama had to do what he did because he was a politician, its clear he was not talking abouut Obama potentially agreeing with what Wright said and for anybody to say or think that would be ludicrous.

[islandmkl]

1. your last sentence pretty much sums up a couple of sets of people around here...

visiting freepers and clintonistas....for their part, they aren't going to let Wright go away...

it's still early, and most people will tire of this crap...

[Rageneau]

2. In other words, Obama is a hypocrite to go to Wright's church for 20 years.

If I go to a church for 20 years, you are perfectly within your rights to assume that I agree with the sermons preached in that church during that 20 years.

If I want to take credit for being in that church without being associated with the teachings of that church, then I am being dishonest.

And the word for this particular KIND of dishonesty is hypocrisy.

[scheming daemons]

3. What?

"If I go to a church for 20 years, you are perfectly within your rights to assume that I agree with the sermons preached in that church during that 20 years."

ALL OF THEM?

You agree with 100% of the sermons of your preacher?

Wow.... talk about being sheep who can't think for himself.



"If I want to take credit for being in that church without being associated with the teachings of that church, then I am being dishonest."

The words of a pastor are not "the teachings of the church". The church has 8,000+ members. The UCC has millions of members nationwide. Rev. Wright is ONE member of that church, albeit an "elder" in his congregation.

[woolldog]

4. what?

what church do you come from where that's true that the parishoners always agree with the sermons?

[mcctatas]

5. I grew up Catholic, still attend church, went to Catholic school,

and have disagreed with much of what my priest says for most of my adult life. Faith is a complicated and personal matter, and for you to pass judgement on anyone elses relationship with thier church is assinine!

[kentuck]

7. The assumptiion seems to be that for 20 years...

every sermon was about "Goddamn America!" Is it possible that there were good deeds done by that church and that that one sermon was an isolated one, perhaps taken out of context, and perhaps Obama was not presnet at that time? Is that possible? Or do we have to believe the right-wing version?

[Mz Pip]

9. People will believe the rw version

if it reinforces negative stereotypes about Obama. THis race is no longer just about voting for who you think is best. It is about voting against someone you've been encouraged to hate.

OF course Obama wasn't in Church for every single one of Wright's sermons for 20 years. Its unlikely he flew home from wherever he was every Sunday to be programmed to hate America by Rev. Wright.

[Mz Pip]

8. I seriously doubt Rev Wright

gave controversial sermons every time he hit the pulpit. If he had there would be one very long book of sermons hitting the shelves today, put out by some Right Wing publisher. The guy preached for 30 years and the focus of his comments seem to be on a few controversial remarks.

I know I have had friends that have said some pretty dumb assed stuff but haven't dumped them because of an occasional bit of flamebait. This really seems to be a manufactured controversy to me.

BUt if this is the game that people want to play, then someone better get working on putting together controversial comments make by people John McCain associates with now or within the last 30 years. He's been in politics for quite a while and has probably crossed paths with the likes of some real slimeballs.

Mz Pip
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[jody]

10. "Obama had to do what he did because he was a politician", that's the message that will be believed

by independent voters and the corollary is BO sat through hate filled sermons for 20 years and never once raised a dissenting voice until the issue became front page news in the primary election.

BO can run but he can't escape those facts.