Does anyone ever feel like Hillary is wasting people's time and money?

[Joe the Revelator]

I look at pictures like this one,and feel bad for the people who waste their time and hard earned money because Hillary has gone too crazy to be honest with them, and tell them that there is no way she can win the nomination. It'd be funny if it wasn't sad.

[Bensthename]

1. Waisting my money too.. Giving to Obama

to fight in this primary when it should be going to his gen election fund..

[PoliticalAmazon]

2. She is wasting precious Dem Party resources. n/t

[Clintonista2]

39. Actually she raises the money herself

Moron.

[splat]

3. No. Neither has enough delegates to win yet.

Stop trying to throw her off the island. Democracy doesn't work that way.

[IsItJustMe]

4. Yep. The insanity of it all.

[Evergreen Emerald]

11. really. Who needs democracy? Let's just crown him. How dare anyone run against the king?

oh f'in brother.

[tridim]

26. She's solidly in second place and will be in second place at the finish.

It's pointless.

[Radical Activist]

27. Wasn't Hillary inevitable before Iowa?

Projection. Projection.

[Evergreen Emerald]

35. And you know what is so funny about that: the media created

a talking point of "inevitability" and you guys hated her for that.

Yet, you do the exact thing you hate. Talk of inevitability. Ask, why bother having an election--and you ask it seriously! You honestly believe there is no reason to have an election. The thing you HATE Clinton for, you are now doing.

Double standard..

[Radical Activist]

36. We had an election.

This primary has gone on longer than any other in years. The voters made a choice despite her starting out with every advantage but she can't accept that.

[Evergreen Emerald]

41. Many people have not voted. Do you realize that Obama cannot

win with the current numbers?

There has not been a completed primary.

The reason the primary is longer--is because it started earlier.

[Radical Activist]

45. The dishonest spin doesn't work on me.

No, this primary is not longer because it started earlier. The '04, '00, '96, and '92 primaries were over long before this many states voted. Obama deserves the same courtesy Bill Clinton got in '92 when the serious candidates dropped out after it was clear they were going to lose. Hillary can't win and the primary is longer because she has no respect for the party or the voters.

[Evergreen Emerald]

47. Yes. This election season started much earlier. STop calling me a liar

when you obviously have no idea what the hell you are talking about.

Clinton did not sew up his nomination until June. So, stop the dishonesty your damn self. And stop the distortions.

I know you feel that your candidate is entitled to win. I know you believe that he is inevitable. But it is not over.

Obama cannot win with his numbers any more than Clinton can.

Knock of the crap.

[Milo_Bloom]

55. So prove it.

Let's go nuts and GIVE Clinton 60% of the remaining super delegates, which makes no sense since at her best she only had about 56% of the SD's and has been shrinking... but lets go crazy and say she gets 183 of the remaining 305 SD's


That means she needs 1585 pledged delegates.


Get her there in a way that makes some semblance of sense.


http://www.slate.com/id/2185278/


I tried 20 point victories in every state to come and she STILL didn't make it.


I can show Obama's path to nomination and all he has to do is UNDERPREFORM what he has done so far... so show me her path.

[Radical Activist]

58. The fact that the season started earlier is not why its going on this long.

The fact that it started early has nothing to do with Clinton not dropping out long after its clear she's going to lose. The season could have ended early too.
Previous primary seasons were over before this many states voted. Far more people had a voice and vote in this primary than past ones so the people have been heard.

Clinton is the one who was called inevitable for a year and feels entitled to win. Projection.

[Leftist Agitator]

44. Wow, you OBVIOUSLY don't know what the fuck you are talking about.

"...the media created a talking point of "inevitability"

The media reported what Penn and Hillary told them to report.

Your Queen cultivated the "inevitability" talking point all by herself. See HERE:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xGsX-R_ZTQ

But yeah, that was all the media's doing, right?

:eyes:

[Evergreen Emerald]

48. and who is doing it now? Obama calls himself the king and you bow.

If you hate Clinton for saying it, why don't you hate Obama for saying it?

[Leftist Agitator]

49. Well, Madame Obtuse, first of all, I never said anything about Obama.

Show me where Obama ever said anything so fucking smug and self-righteous.

Show me, or STFU.

As a matter of fact, I recall Obama saying that Her Royal Clintonness should be allowed to run as long as she pleases just a few weeks ago.

"Obama calls himself the king..."

No, he doesn't. And even if he did, which he doesn't, there's a world of difference between pointing out that you are winning, and declaring yourself the inevitable nominee before a single vote is ever cast. If you can't tell the difference between those situations, then you've got a terminal case of stupid.

"...why don't you hate Obama for saying it?"

Because he never said that.

[Evergreen Emerald]

52. Are you kidding me? The calls for Clinton to quit are from the obama camp

He is inevitable says every Obama supporter on this board. Indeed some suggest that if he does not win, there will be protests because he is so so inevitable.

Where the hell have you been?

[Leftist Agitator]

56. I'm not the one who made baseless accusations. You are.

Show me where Obama ever said anything so fucking smug and self-righteous.

Or STFU.

END. OF. STORY.

Without a link for your idiotic assertions, I'll take your posts as no more than Hillarite whining.

[Evergreen Emerald]

61. So funny you Obama supporters and your memory.

[dionysus]

63. you pwned her... good job :)

[Leftist Agitator]

64. You think that's some pwnage?

Pshaw!

Now THIS, my friend, is pure pwnage:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5600562&mesg_id=5602572

Hey, it's what I do.

:rofl:

[dionysus]

65. why yes, of course... pwnage indeed...

:D quite impressive...

[stillcool]

33. I have no problem

with this Primary playing out to the bitter end, but it has nothing to do with the voters. Hillary can not wind...but that doesn't matter. I have learned so much about the candidates and how arrogant, derisive, and self important some Democrats are.

[mwb970]

5. The much sadder thing is, she has a lot of good ideas and a lot of energy.

It should be exciting to have such an impressive woman running for president, but the way she has campaigned seems to me to be right out of Rove's playbook. With the right campaign, she could have won easily. I guess that's why her supporters feel that she is entitled to the nomination now.

[EFerrari]

6. It's not a waste if the media comglomerates rake it in, right?

That's what this is about, imho. The longer this goes on, the more ad buys.

[Bensthename]

9. Yup, they are laughing about this all the way to the bank.

[gateley]

7. Don't feel too bad.

By the looks of the turnout, there weren't all that many people there.

[KittyWampus]

8. are hillary supporters really THAT stupid? that's what blows my mind.

[Toucano]

18. Does it really help you to be THAT rude?

You really don't have to call them stupid, do you?

You gain nothing by it and you offend people. Is that something you want to do?

[Saturday]

10. Wasting money? Does Obama have the delegates needed yet?

No he doesn't so it's not a waste of money. Stupid premise to think no more money should be spent when the race is not over.

[Yurovsky]

13. But after everyone is tapped out ....

and John McCain is sitting on big pile of campaign cash and a donor list that has not been remotely exhausted of legally obtainable funds ...

This has the potential to end very badly. For Democrats. For Americans. For the rest of the world.

Think it through.

[emilyg]

12. No. I believe in the democratic process.

[Tellurian]

14. nope!

[SoCalDem]

15. I now know what her favorite movie is

[dkf]

16. It is absolutely a waste of my money. We could be making our case against McCain

Instead we have to fight off Hillary's kitchen sink. It is DISGUSTING.

[Toucano]

17. That's really cynical.

People who give Clinton money believe she speaks for them. She's doing what they want her to do.

Even if she doesn't win the nomination, she will have a lot of influence at the convention on the platform, rules, etc.

[Petey Wheatie]

19. No, she's trying to save our party from disaster. We should be thanking her. n/t

[Liberal Gramma]

22. You're going to get dizzy from spinning so hard

Saving our party is the last thing I'd say she was doing.

[Petey Wheatie]

29. You been hoodwinked. Obama's all flash and no horsepower....

...plus, he's good friends with a guy who wanted to blow up the pentagon and his spiritual mentor goes around saying "God Damn America." Face it, if we run this guy, we will lose.

[newmajority]

30. Bill and Hillary are good friends with the guys who DID blow up part of the Pentagon

Face it, if we run her, we will lose. And far more than just an election.

[Liberal Gramma]

32. You are either joking or delusional

[newmajority]

51. Or tombstoned

Petey's visit was all too brief. And embarrassing. I wouldn't be surprised if the Hillary supporters themselves demanded his pizza delivery.

[symbolman]

20. LOL

Looks like The Cackler skittering up the landing walkway of a Chicken Coop..

Bawk! Bawk, Bawk bawk!!

[Petey Wheatie]

21. LOL

[Arkansas Granny]

23. I don't feel my money has been wasted. I contributed to her campaign because

I feel she is the most qualified for the position. If she wins the nomination I will feel like I had a part in it. If she loses I will feel like I did what I could to give her the best chance at winning. I may be disappointed in the outcome, but I won't feel that I've wasted my money. Besides, this race is still a lot closer than many posters at DU would like to admit and anything could happen yet.

FWIW I didn't feel like my money was wasted on John Edwards or John Kerry either.

[Mags]

24. My sister and I try to donate to her wkly. We sure do not feel

as though it is a waste. She will be our next President. We are so proud to be part of it.

[Joe the Revelator]

50. You're the kind of person I'm worried about. Its going to be a very depressing and rude awaking

when you find out we were right, and Hillary was lying to you when she told you she still had a chance.

[Arugula Latte]

25. I do. I feel like I'm just counting the days until she packs it in.

Just go away, Hillary. We're done with you.

[newmajority]

28. Wasting time and money ties in perfectly with the DLC strategy.

They don't want a bigger majority in the House or the Senate, and they sure as Hell don't want more actual Democrats elected to either body. As we have seen since the 2006 election, a thin majority gives them the excuse to be spineless rubber stamps for whatever the 'Pukes and Chimpy want. And beyond that, you have about 14 "Democratic" senators who vote as Democrats less than 50% of the time.

Getting Hillary out of this race NOW (as in Tuesday night) would not only free up party and individual funds to help real Democrats in congressional races, it would also ensure that we keep all these new voters interested, so they can vote for those candidates. Including the state primaries, in the case where a real Democrat might be running against a DLC'er. Such a primary race already happened somehwere on the East Coast, though I forget the candidate's name or exactly which state. Same challenger who lost to the DLC incumbent in 2006 beat him this time, due to all the new voters who turned out for the Obama victory.

That was a prime example of what should happen all over the country this year. And the DLC types, like Hillary, can't stand it.

[Justitia]

31. yup - and energy, and goodwill and loyalties to Our Party. One big waste. -eom

[ecstatic]

34. She needs to reach into her own mega millions

to fund her Quixotic mission and stop complaining about how Obama is outspending her.

[Mags]

38. she doesn't have to, she a great deal of support out there. why does it bother you so?

[Hippo_Tron]

37. As an Obama supporter, no I really don't think that is the case

Funds are far more limited by contribution limits and not the fact that donors don't have any money left cause they gave it all to someone else in the primary.

And if you're worried about Obama missing valuable General Election campaigning time in April, you really need to read up on how campaigns work. September and October are when voters make up their minds. Granted if this shit goes past June, it's a problem. Obama needs the summer to unite the party and raise money. But April and May really aren't all that important.

[BlooInBloo]

40. Democracy is not a waste, imo.

[Aloha Spirit]

43. Completely agree. McCain spent $5 mill on operating expenditures last month. Zero momentum.

[undeterred]

42. ABSOLUTELY.

The money could be much better spent.

[LulaMay]

46. No, but I feel like you are.

[Erin Elizabeth]

53. Most decidedly.

And I hope everyone she owes money to gets paid back!

[cliffordu]

54. Are there 80 people there??

[Hepburn]

57. It's like watching a guest who has NO clue that it is way past time to go home.

Hillary is a TOTAL waste...and she is damaging our party and our chances to win in November.

:grr:

[AtomicKitten]

59. Um, yes.

[ORDem]

60. And stiffing small businesses along the way as well. nt

[SlingBlade]

62. YES, I DO !

[TexasObserver]

66. she's the little train that COULDN'T

Yes, she's engaging in the longest uninterrupted dance of self delusional in modern political history.

I'm convinced she simply cannot give up this time when finally, for once in her life, she gets to feel important, even if it's an insanely held belief.