Hillary THE MEN'S LADY

[FrenchieCat]

This is a situation that I have warned my daughters to never to put themselves in,
drinking while a bunch of men are ogling you.
As a woman, I find these photos creepy.









Discuss this as well as the "Obama THE LADIES' MAN" thread was discussed.

[anonymous171]

1. OMG SHAMELESS!

Look at her! She's just asking for it!

:sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm:

[FrenchieCat]

6. I'm just saying.......

Not very presidential.

It is sending mixed signals. Ask any mother raising daughters or Sons.

[Mags]

50. I find that hard to believe from you, BO could get by with it I'm sure

but let's make a big deal about Hillary taking a shot. Talk about double standards. Do you remember BO having a beer with the guys in Penn. Na, guess not.

[polpilot]

55. Look at the men's expressions. They know she'll be available after the primaries.

Bill, you promised you could get me elected. Good-bye.

[maddiejoan]

2. Are your daughters Grown women in their 60s?

if not --what's your point?

[FrenchieCat]

7. No, my daughters are 17 and 20.....

My point is one that I have already expressed.

[maddiejoan]

8. I see

so you don't believe that a woman should be able to drink in public?

seriously --I'm not getting your point.

[FrenchieCat]

17. I have taught my daughters that certain situations are preferable over others....

Indeed, I have given them instructions that if they are the only females left at a party, they should leave.

I have told them not to drink stuff handed to them.

I have told them that drinking alcohol can impaire their judgment, and they should not indulge.

I ahve told them that they need to be in control of their surroundings at all time.

I think most mothers say these things to their teenage daughters these day.

Do you have any children?

[maddiejoan]

23. Does it matter if I do?

Is my opinion worthless without children?

I certainly wouldn't expect the same behaviour from a 60 year old woman, that I would from my underage daughters.

Of course I'd tell my teenage daughters EXACTLY what you are telling your's.

I certainly wouldn't tell an adult woman that though.

[FrenchieCat]

29. No, your opinion is not worthless.....

I would tell my teenage daughters that they don't want to engage in the behavior I warnned them about ever. One can go from underage to a "cougar" (SNL term) without skipping a beat.

Just saying how it looks in those pictures, more than what it was.

[maddiejoan]

35. and I think she's a grown woman

and she can do as she likes.

We do earn some stripes as we age. no?

[FrenchieCat]

63. Actually, grown women ought to know better......

We aren't men, and we shouldn't want to be like them in the areas of drinking and hanging out in bars, far as I know.

[maddiejoan]

72. You a puritan or something?

I just came back from the local Happy hour where I was doing shots of Crown Royal with Yuengling chasers in honor of tonight's debate.

I had a good time too --and I was (gasp) drinking without an escort!

scandalous!

[GoldieAZ49]

95. maddiejoan, that is NOT the modern dress code for these 'concerned mothers' this is

[Straight Shooter]

92. I have an image of you with your hair rolled tightly into a bun.

Maybe too tightly.

[Nicole]

96. Big difference between Hillary & your daughters

She has Secret Service protection.

I doubt if any of those men could have slipped something in her drink. Or worse.

[goclark]

51. FrenchieCat I agree with you 100%

Ladies in her generation do not do shots in a bar,especially if they want to be a role model for women,young and old.

And, if they want to be the first women President of the United States, that's not the image she needs.

[FrenchieCat]

60. I think that this,

on top of running on her husband's resume (just the good stuff) sets women back, not forward.

We want to compete with men on the job, not at the bar. She's tone deaf, I tell ya'. :eyes:

[goclark]

77. I keep thinking about Chelsea

I can't even imagine my Mother doing something like that - not the role model she needs.

[BootinUp]

78. lol nt

[Bonobo]

3. ,

[ShortnFiery]

11. I dunno but the guy in the white shirt is ogling her, he must have his BEER GOGGLES

on. :rofl:

[Bonobo]

14. kj

[cliffordu]

18. Beer Goggles!!!

Fock!! I haven't had those in YEARS....but I don't even with my worst Budweiser myopia I would have taken a shot at the Hillary..... :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[ShortnFiery]

28. Hit Hilary? Hell no, as a woman, the dude in the white shirt would take a couple shots

a beer and a hit of acid for me even to BEGIN to want any of his action. :crazy: :rofl:

ew!

[cliffordu]

36. And I forgot the roofie for me, She prolly has them in her manpurse....

[LTR]

49. Forget him - "DAD" is looking pretty creepy

:toast:

[Bucky]

13. That is so MLK of you

Fight fire with fire! Sink to the lowest level. Fight trash with trash. That's real leadership, buddy!

[Bonobo]

15. I'm fucking incandescent right now, Bucky!!!

[Bucky]

61. Breathe.

Step 2: Read Rudyard Kipling's "If"
Step 3: Do something for our candidate.

We'll get through this. You'll see.

[ShortnFiery]

20. Hey, I know my weaknesses. As much as I admire MLK, I'm wired to respond.

Yes, I sin. :blush:

[Bucky]

58. (Hey, so did Martin)

All my heroes have feet of clay.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

4. I have a question about Hillary's drinking problem...

Is it going to hurt Obama's chances to be her VP?

:rofl:

[Hepburn]

5. Never noticed before, but....

...it looks like she is the only female in the bar.

[FrenchieCat]

10. I'm telling you......

this message sent to both young and older women, and men for that matter is not something that should have happened. I'm from the old school, and these pics does not bring any positive conotations to mind.

[DesertFlower]

21. i'm old school too.

i don't like what i'm seeing.

[depakid]

27. Lighten up!

So Hillary pounded a shot... and looked a little foolish.

If you were really "old school" that wouldn't bother you at all- cause that's something most old school pols and professionals do from time to time. I know, because I've done it with some of the best of them- men and women!

[Hepburn]

32. I gotta go with you two on this...

...I was think that maybe it was just because I am older ~~ nearly 60 ~~ that I saw a female hanging out with guys in a bar to not be such a good thing to do. I sure has hell have never done anything like this. I wonder why she thinks knocking drinks back with guys in an all male bar is a good thing to do.

:shrug:

[GoldieAZ49]

69. Prohibition is 'old school'

don't go to bars is 'old school'

ankle length skirts is 'old school'

don't compete with men is 'old school'

fear of men is 'old school'

separate drinking parlors for the men is 'old school'

don't speak out is 'old school'

you are not acting like a "lady" is 'old school' as a means of control of women

oh, and a burka is 'old school'

this lame thread is 'old school' and attempts to set the women's right movement back 50 years

It FAILS to do so for any modern woman

[Hepburn]

85. So....

...it's "modern" for a female to go into an all male bar, be the lone female, and throw back shots with them.

I would call that stupidity...but, hey, go for what turns you on.

[GoldieAZ49]

91. was it an all male bar? Or a photo with males in it?

the white male vote that the dem party ran off decades ago and cannot win a presidential election without.

it is 'modern' for a woman to go wherever she wants and drink whatever she wants with whomever she chooses.


women's rights, civil rights etc, you may have heard of it

[PoliticalAmazon]

103. It is creepy. It reminds me of that Jodie Foster movie...

Hillary is QUITE the role model, isn't she?

[Bucky]

9. Hey, I'd like to have a president who can hold her booze

As, I'm sure, many New Yorkers will be glad to know they will have a senator for the next 4 years who can hold her liquor. Apparently in Russia she all but drank McCain under the table. That's pretty cool--a real throw back to the hard drinkin' Johnson years in the 50s & 60s. I admire that. I suspect such comraderie will do much to keep President Obama's legislation moving smoothly thru Congress. God bless her!

[FrenchieCat]

12. Who knows if she held it?

I know that she was lousy in the next day's Faith Forum, or whatever it was called.

[nebula]

19. She did seem to slur her speech an awful lot

in that faith forum.

:rofl:

[JTFrog]

38. I heard she's always held her liquor...

by the ears!

:yoiks:


:blush:

:hide:



(resistance was futile)

[ShortnFiery]

16. Hold her liquor?!? Guess you haven't heard about her experience later?!?

:blush:

Oh, I should spread rumors ... but it ended up in some "worship to the porcelain GOD" before the night was over. :evilgrin:

[K Gardner]

79. I thought you were talking about the snipers outside the bar.. she had to run to the limo !

[SoxFan]

22. Dollars to donuts this gets locked

before the thread its mocking.

[FrenchieCat]

24. It better not be....

What's the difference.

My thread has real photos, at least.

[FrenchieCat]

25. How come the counter thread has 11 recs, when it says nothing ......?

:wtf:

[libnnc]

30. I'd like to know who the genius was who unlocked it

Lets the whole world see how ugly DU really is.

I'm ashamed.

[40ozDonkey]

26. Karen Allen in Raiders of the Lost Ark vs. the Nepalese.

She fictionally drank 'em under the table and looked great doin' it. I'm still in love with her over that very scene.

[ShortnFiery]

It was a cool scene, but don't try that at home! Reality: she would have lapsed into a coma and died

of alcohol poisoning.

I have worked as an addiction counselor - trust me, you can DIE on a lot less than what she downed.

BUMMER! :shrug:

[PoliticalAmazon]

104. "Cool scene"!@?! It was straight out of "The Accused." Creep me out. n/t

[BlooInBloo]

31. eew.

[SoFlaJet]

33. hmmm....

maybe Randi Rhodes was actually RIGHT about her in SF

[K Gardner]

34. I heard she'd been "acting out" over Bill's latest escapade. Ya can't really blame her.

[taterguy]

37. As a drinker I find your nanny-ism annoying

If you're that concerned about your daughters do what Hillary does:

Never go into a bar without several body guards.

[K Gardner]

39. I think you missed the point.

[FrenchieCat]

41. Yeah.....body guards.

OK. :eyes:

[ShortnFiery]

48. Man or Woman, one should always go drinking with a buddy.

Further, I've warned my daughter to realize "you act stupid" when drunk.

Sure, you FEEL like your "a genius" but you REALLY come across as "a moron" when over-lit.

And yes, it's not fair, but young women must be ultra-careful because *some* (most of the young ones) can be hyper-sexual.

You don't want to go there.

BUMMER!

[kwenu]

40. I really don't recall ever seeing a presidential candidate do something tacky like this before.

Am I wrong?

[taterguy]

42. Showing surgery scars rates higher on my tacky scale

But I don't remember if LBJ did that before or after he was running for President.

[kwenu]

52. It was while he was President but at least he gets points for genuineness.

[goclark]

56. Heard Johnson was a real drinker nt

[kwenu]

93. Do you have any pictures of him throwing back a shot?

[FrenchieCat]

45. The thing about messages that are subliminal is that

they are there.

If Obama can get slammed for talking about rural voters, etc.... because of how it sounds, elitist and such, I guess that Hillary is fair game for how those photos look.

Sounds bad = looks bad

4 days of battering Obama on how what he said sounded.

[saracat]

43. If you find that creepy it is obvious you never went to college!

Or you certainly don't have much of a social life! I am sorry for your daughters.

[FrenchieCat]

46. Don't be sorry for us.

Hillary's not in college, but she is a role model for millions of women, old and young alike, wouldn't you say? :shrug:

[saracat]

57. And I don't see anything wrong with drinking with the "boys".I still

raise a glass or two with them and if someone has a problem with this it may be they are a bit of a "prude" and I am sorry they don't know how to have a good time but whatever.I happened to enjoy partying with my friends and I still do. My parents both enjoyed a glass with their co workers as well and like Hillary, they were both fine "role models". If alcohol offends someone that much, it may be personal problem!:toast:

[FrenchieCat]

65. Good for you.....

DO you have any daughters?

It's not the alcohol on its own, its the setting and the company. It is the perception and the message it sends.

[saracat]

89. The setting is a "bar"with men in it? So? I used to work with only men.

and my mothers law firm had only men. Were we not supposed to drink with them? Should I not have a drink with my husband's clients or his friends after work? There is nothing wrong with the setting OR the company but if someone is that insecure to think there is, that might be a problem.I even have some pics of me tossing a glass with my dad prp school reunion that looks remarkably similar to these shots and one of the guys is Sargent Shriver so I would say the "company" wasn't so bad.The message and perception seems really subjective and to find it negative seems really biased.I guess you would be opposed to my drinking with my Dad as I was the only woman. How very sad.

[trof]

44. Beer is considered to be the working man's drink.

Many politicos are OK with being photographed holding a mug with 'the fellers' in a local pub.
But it's really more of a 'guy' thing.

And you won't find a glass of chardonnay in a typical blue collar neighborhood gin mill.

A shot and a beer is typically a hard core, hard drinking, steel mill/coal miner choice.

Most candidates wouldn't be caught dead, OR BE PHOTOGRAPHED, with a shot glass of Crown Royal in their hand, let alone throwing it down.
That will make a great repug 30 second TV spot for the fundie tea-totalers.

And she was 'dared' into it and took the dare.
Pitiful pandering to the nth degree.

And don't go all 'elitist' on me.
I've had my share of shots and beers and depth charges*.

*Depth Charge - Drop the whole shot glass of whiskey into the beer and drink it down.
;-)

[Name removed]

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[guruoo]

53. hahahaha! Touche!

Knew it was just a matter of time.

[PoliticalAmazon]

54. Notice how she caved in to peer pressure. She'd be easy. n/t

[cui bono]

68. That wasn't nice. n/t

[BootinUp]

59. This is a ridiculous thread. She's not there to meet a future mate or something. nt

[K Gardner]

73. You never know. I predict DIVORCE after her failed campaign is officially over.

[BootinUp]

75. only thing is I don't come here looking for fortunetellers. nt

[FrenchieCat]

But that's exactly what you get listening to the Hillary campaign.....

Folks talking about Obama cannot win a general election, like they actually know. :eyes: Predicting the future is big business these days, apparently.

[BootinUp]

84. Do you even try to see it from both sides? Like Obama's

campaign hasn't been saying that since last year about her. You set yourself up for disappointment me thinks.

[FrenchieCat]

82. But that's exactly what you get listening to the Hillary campaign.....

Folks talking about Obama cannot win a general election, like they actually know. :eyes: Predicting the future is big business these days, apparently.

[GoldieAZ49]

62. The white male vote

crucial for the Dem party to get back, good for her.

Other than that, looks like fun!

[FrenchieCat]

64. Remember the saying.......

You won't be respected in the morning? :shrug:

[GoldieAZ49]

74. for having a drink with the guys?

No

I have done so since I was 19 and have had a great time with great friends

The night I rode the mechanical bull was great, stayed on longer than the guys could


I enjoy a good time with my male friends, I don't care for prudish

[Hippo_Tron]

66. I think it's a question of moderation

Throwing back one shot doesn't impair your judgment enough to put yourself in a bad situation. 6 or 7 is a different story.

[cui bono]

67. What??? You realize she's doing that as a photo op? That she's running for president?

It's not like they caught her on a Saturday night down at the local bar tying one on. Sheesh.

This has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with what you are talking about, which is a serious situation. How you could even begin to compare this with a public figure running for president doing a photo op is beyond me.

[FrenchieCat]

70. Bad choice.

They tore Obama down for having a go at bowling.....so I guess that a bad message subliminal Photo OP is "fair" game, No? :shrug:

[cui bono]

81. I LOATHE Hillary but I think the OP is in poor taste and misses the mark.

And makes light of a serious situation. And just because she does it... remember how Obama didn't say a word about the sniper fire? He could have. And that's one of the things that makes me like him more as time goes on, whereas Hillary's actions make me loathe her more than almost anyone and when this all started I merely disliked her and distrusted her.

So stop making me defend her dammit! ;)

[FrenchieCat]

83. Hey, this is a counter thread......just replaced the names and gender order really.....

I alerted on the stupid thread that didn't make any sense at all, and all I got was a big fat Locked and unLocked thread instead. Soooo, this is an eye for an eye.

[cui bono]

88. I understand the sentiments behind it... I just disagree. n/t

[bigwillq]

71. I find nothing wrong with these pictures

Do you have a link to where and when these photos were taken?

on edit: I found where/when/what context the pictures were taken.

[EFerrari]

76. That was incredibly creepy. The usual "bad boundaries" Clinton routine. n/t

[GoldieAZ49]

80. Prohibition is 'old school'

don't go to bars is 'old school'

ankle length skirts is 'old school'

don't compete with men is 'old school'

fear of men is 'old school'

separate drinking parlors for the men is 'old school'

don't speak out is 'old school'

you are not acting like a "lady" is 'old school' as a means of control of women

oh, and a burka is 'old school'

this lame thread is 'old school' and attempts to set the women's right movement back 50 years

It FAILS to do so for any modern woman or man that supports women's rights

[Hepburn]

87. Getting drunk and being the lone female in a group of men in a bar...

...is just so much better than, Oooooooh, someone thinking of you as old fashioned.

:eyes:

[GoldieAZ49]

90. you know she got drunk? you know she was the 'lone female'

she posted it because she is 'old school'

BS

[L0oniX]

86. What's next? A wet T-shirt contest?

:evilgrin:

[GoldieAZ49]

94. Nope, reinstate prohibition, outlaw bars altogether

women will not be allowed out of the house without a burka

they will not work with men nor attend school

under penalty of death


Happy now?

[L0oniX]

98. You clearly have a twisted problem with men. Did you just get divorced or did something happen...

to make you hate men?:shrug:

[GoldieAZ49]

99. clearly you have issues with women you cannot control

I love men, real men that is

[L0oniX]

100. I control my ignore list.

[GoldieAZ49]

101. Please add me

[BootinUp]

102. lol nt

[Thepricebreaker]

97. I just ate... please..... hillary gone wild?