So now I'm "dumb"...

[Araxen]

after being told "To hell with me" and I can keep going on and on about how much the Clinton campaign has put me and voters down. Well I won't put up with it anymore. To hell with you, Hillary and Bill Clinton, you are the dumb ones for running a horrible campaign not I or the voters.

[boston bean]

1. LET IT SINK

[Araxen]

2. I'm glad her campaign is sinking into the ground.

[boston bean]

3. We have to clean up GDP. Its a cesspool.

[Araxen]

5. That's what GDP is for and will be till the primaries are over with.

[thewiseguy]

9. You have alot to do with that!

Dont act all so innocent and concerned now. We been seeing your threads and posts on GD.

[Mooney]

18. When we have a nominee things will go back to normal.

This has been a very long primary season, and it's wearing everybody out. I've seen some stuff around here lately that suggests that some posters need to be captured with butterfly nets and taken to the laughing academy.

[Swamp Rat]

24. "bitches get stuff done" - Have you offended females DUers with that sigline?

I have read numerous threads by female DUers who intensely dislike the term "bitch" when referring to women, some of whom are Hillary supporters. I was wondering if you have been reprimanded for it.

:shrug:

[Kajsa]

42. Thanks for pointing that out, Swamp Rat.

No, I don't like the term 'bitch' randomly applied to strong women.

As one of the best musicians in history, Carlos Santana once said
at one of his concerts,

" Stop calling women bitches!"
( heard it with my own ears- ;) )

Love that guy! :loveya:

Luv ya, too- Swamp Rat!

Hej då-:D :hi:

[Swamp Rat]

46. I'm going to see Santana at the NO Jazz Fest in a couple of weeks.

I've been to a dozen Santana concerts. :D

:hi: Hêia Kajsa! :hug:

[Kajsa]

50. You lucky guy!

Love the graphics!

:D :pals:

[Lucky 13]

37. Your tagline is "Bitches get stuff done." So it's ok to use the word "bitch" now?

I didn't get that memo. Last I heard we were all "outraged" at it's free usage on GD:P. Way to represent the hypocrite lobby.

[dionysus]

39. omg, and the hypocrite fo the day award goes to massdemm

[Jed Dilligan]

43. See post 36

[dionysus]

47. ROFL.. that makes it even better!

[redqueen]

45. I'm going to defend you for your sigline.

I see a few people trying to play "GOTCHA!" because you use the word "bitch" in your sig.

The context, however, is what they seem to be failing to take note of.

I'm not for censoring words... I'm for recognizing context. It's obvious that in the context you are using it, it isn't an insult. It's also obvious that when someone angrily uses that word about her, it's a whole other situation entirely.

:hi:

[snooper2]

55. And you contribute

to the slime...

[Jed Dilligan]

36. .

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5527342#5527665

:rofl:

[HCE SuiGeneris]

48. another hypocrite for hillary -- how special

[BlooInBloo]

4. Pfft, Just listen to yer elders sonny boy! They know what's good for you!

:rofl:

[PatGund]

10. I'm 42.....

and I'm NOT for Sen. Clinton.

Damn. You were a good president Mr. Clinton. But that was a stupid thing to say.

[Bensthename]

6. Let her sink

[redqueen]

7. What's all this about?

[Mooney]

8. Surprise! Bill Clinton said something stupid on the campaign trail again.

http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligence/2008/04/bill_clinton_ol.html

[redqueen]

12. And still six days to go till PA votes...

Thanks. *sigh*

[Mooney]

16. That's part of why I wasn't worried about "Bittergate."

Other than it being a wholly manufactured controversy about nothing, I knew that there was still enough time for Bill Clinton to say something really fucking stupid that would take some of the heat off of Obama.

Bill Clinton has been the greatest gift to Obama's campaign since YouTube.

[redqueen]

20. Oh she's no slouch herself... Gore lost cause he was viewed as elitist?

No... Obama got it right... Gore won.

[Mooney]

30. I know.

How anyone can consider Obama to be the gaffe-prone one after all the ridiculous shit that she's said is beyond me.

[MonkeyFunk]

11. Who said "to hell with you"?

If you're not a misogynist, it didn't apply to you.

And Clinton was complimenting an important demographic. To turn that into some sort of insult to you is really stretching.

[thewiseguy]

13. Complimenting a demographic while insulting another?

You dont get it. Do you?

[MonkeyFunk]

25. It's a ridiculous stretch to pretend to be insulted by that

[Mooney]

29. Why?

[PVnRT]

32. "fooled by Obama"

Old people aren't fooled, but young people are. That's what he meant and you know it.

[knixphan]

14. Bill C has given up on the youth.

But the youth are the future.

Reality. Pass it on.

[Texas Hill Country]

15. he was talking about 18,19,20 year olds that dont remember the Clinton presidency cause they were 8.

[anonymous171]

17. Why should that matter? Hillary Rodham, a junior senator from NY is running, not Bill Clinton.

[Texas Hill Country]

22. the comment was in reference to what barack said about Clinton and Bush presidencies being the same

and people believing that.

[redqueen]

33. Did Obama say the presidencies were the same?

Is there nothing her campaign won't twist around to try to stir up some shit?

[Mooney]

28. Those young voters helped him get elected, back in the day.

I was 23 when Bill Clinton got elected. For me and all my friends, we felt like we were part of a movement, and we felt like our votes were valued. We felt like we were being welcomed into the process. By the same token, the Bush I campaign said this type of dismissive shit about all the young people who were helping Bill Clinton get elected. According to the Bushies, we were too young to remember how it was during the Carter and Reagan years --- that is to say, we didn't buy their version of events from those years. We didn't view Ronald Reagan is the savior of humanity, so were naive and stupid.

It's kind of funny. The Bill Clinton campaign song was "Don't Stop Thinking About Tomorrow." The new theme song seems to be "Yesterday."

Yesterday,
All my troubles seemed so far away,
Now it looks as though they're here to stay,
Oh, I believe in yesterday.

Suddenly,
I'm not half the man I used to be,
There's a shadow hanging over me,
Oh, yesterday came suddenly.

[Texas Hill Country]

31. he is referring to the Obama comments that Clinton era was not that great, and that the youngest

voters that buy into this dont remember what it was like and so dont know what a difference there is.

[Mooney]

54. I don't think he was saying the Clinton era was not that great.

I think he was saying that, despite the upturn in the economy that we experienced under Clinton, there were still a lot of working class people who got left behind, particularly people who lost their jobs because of NAFTA. This mirrors Clinton's 1992 campaign. At the time, it was considered heresy to imply that not everyone benefited from the economic reality of the Reagan years, but that was clearly the case, and Clinton said so, much to the chagrin of the Republican establishment.

It's not possible to look back on the Clinton era and characterize it as a time of economic downturn, because it wasn't. But it's true that a lot of people didn't benefit from everything that happened either, and I think that's what Obama was driving at. That's how I interpret it anyway.

I would think that Obama was smoking very strong pot if he tried to imply that the Clinton years were not an improvement over either the Bush I or II terms, because they very obviously and demonstrably were. I've spent a lot of the last eight years arguing with freeper types about this, since it's an article of faith among them that George W Bush inherited an economy in recession. We know that this is revisionist history at its most flagrant. But it's true that a lot of people got left behind.

There won't be any economic scenario that doesn't leave some people behind, but those that do fall through the cracks have a legitimate grievance, and I think that's what Obama was addressing.

[Maribelle]

19. In truth, Obama and his followers have said "to hell with you" to 2.2 million Democrats

And that was in plain English.

[anonymous171]

21. Hillary said that as well, and also advocates disenfranchising the entire party by winning with SDs

alone.

[Texas Hill Country]

23. been done before AND it is within party rules too... you cant have it both ways.

[anonymous171]

26. Yep. MI and FL broke the rules. You're right. Hillary can't have it both ways.

[Texas Hill Country]

27. No, either you follow the rules and let SDs vote the way they want and dont bitch plus leave out MI

OR, you can bitch about the SDs and we include FL and MI


you cant scream for strict adherence to the rules in one area and advocate breaking the rules in another.

[Maribelle]

34. Wrong. Obama nixed any chance of a revote in Michigan and Florida.

[anonymous171]

35. But she agreed to disenfranchise them.

And Obama didn't nix any chance, that's Hillary propoganda. Why wouldn't Obama want a revote in MI, a state he would win?

[knixphan]

38. Bingo!

[redqueen]

44. I don't understand how her campaign can repeatedly lie to her supporters...

and they just pretend it's not happening.

[Mass]

40. May it is time for Mrs Clinton to officially dump Bill. He certainly has been for a lot in the

demise of her campaign.

[knixphan]

41. Young and old lions...

Back to that whole 'natural selection' thing.

The youth grew tired of Papa Bush, and now grow tired of the whole Bush-Clinton dynamic.

Darwin.

[mkultra]

49. yup, thats what she said

your dumb because your not old.

[ItNerd4life]

51. Yes you are you young whippersnapper

Only the old wise folks are smart because in their youth they allowed apartheid. :sarcasm:

[Exilednight]

52. Here's the ironic part.........

For the longest time the Democratic party has been trying to get out the youth vote, and now that a candidate can finally do it the "it's my turn" candidate tells us that we have no clue.

I was a twenty something under the Clinton administration, a Gen-Xer to be sure, and I remember how Bill said he wanted more youth involved in politics, and now that we are - he doesn't like it.

[Perry Logan]

53. You said it, not us.