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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 07:12 PM
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Elitist My Ass
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/erin-kotecki-vest/elitist-my-ass_b_96380.html

Elitist My Ass
Erin Kotecki Vest

Posted April 12, 2008 | 06:19 PM (EST)

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Senator Clinton, let me be as clear as I possibly can here:

Barack Obama is giving voice to millions of us by speaking the TRUTH. He's simply vocalizing exactly what I hear from my Uncle, from my High School friend, from my former teacher, from my now re-located parents. He is speaking about what he's heard, what he's been told, what he has seen.

Senator Obama's remarks reminds me yet again that he is one of us. He GETS IT. He knows that I LEFT Detroit. I AM BITTER. I AM PISSED OFF. THERE ARE NO JOBS IN MY HOMETOWN. I couldn't move my family back there if I WANTED TO.

When I do take trips back home it is depressing. My husband NEVER wants to visit because he can't stand how dejected everyone is and how run down the whole place seems. Are there some amazing neighborhoods and jobs-of course. Is it horrible everywhere-of course not. Is it worse there than in many other places in the US-damn right.

Do you think I like living 3-thousand miles away from my family and friends? Do you think it's fun for me to watch everyone I know get laid off, go into bankruptcy, lose their house, work two low paying jobs, move into their parents home? Do you think I am NOT bitter about any of this?

Spin it. Go ahead. Talk about how those remarks make him seem elite and condescending. It is so absurd that it only confirms for me that you and Senator McCain are COMPLETELY OUT OF TOUCH with what REAL Americans think and do and want.

I would suggest, however, that you take your rhetoric elsewhere. Because the more you yap about Obama being 'elite' -while he's talking about how we really feel and you're releasing 109 Million dollar tax returns- the more stupid you look.
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leftofcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 07:15 PM
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1. PA voters disagree with you
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 07:17 PM
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2. Wow -- did I sleep through the primary!?
I never got to vote! :cry:
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 07:17 PM
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3. Ya know, either provide a link backing your shit up, or shut up.
Edited on Sat Apr-12-08 07:22 PM by babylonsister
You do this all the time, and it's really quite annoying. Your opinion doesn't make anything valid unless you provide a linky.
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Kber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 08:27 PM
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18. Or at least a well reasoned argument.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 08:43 PM
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23. The poster doesn't even live in PA, so it's just speculation, and
wrongheaded at that. But that kind of comment is par for the course. I call it 'shit and run'.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 08:33 PM
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21. Seconded.
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 07:18 PM
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4. Are you speaking in the royal "WE" ?
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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 07:20 PM
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5. Gobama!
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 07:21 PM
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6. And of course, all of them think the same thing. nt
:sarcasm:
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 08:05 PM
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15. Your post reminds of the South Park where people learn to poop out of their mouths
What an asinine post.:beer:
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Liberal Gramma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 08:28 PM
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19. Done your own survey, have you?
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crankychatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 07:21 PM
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7. "Elitist" = "uppity" and "boojie" - preying on fears and prejudices of White AND Black people
K/R

"boojie" is a term working class and poor AA's use to describe the middle class and successful among them, that have forgotten their roots.

This assault is two pronged... same as in Carolina's primary

and it will not work, any better than it did before.

People are waking up to the crap on tv... their kids are taking them to the internet and opening their eyes

it's a new world...
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InsultComicDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 08:48 PM
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26. boojie
I've never heard that term before. I assume it is a corruption of "bourgeosie"?
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 07:22 PM
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8. People can protest all they want- but this is simply tried and true political tactic
Obama really stepped in it with that statement- and chose perhaps the worst possibly place to do it.

Never mind who the real elites are- this is about perceptions, which is what wins or loses elections.

We saw the same sorts of things in 200 and 2004.

Odd though that he mentioned trade policies in the same sentence (which actually IS something that people in many states like Pennsylvania and Indiana SHOULD be bitter about).
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 07:23 PM
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9. In your dreams; wishing doesn't make it so. nt
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 07:27 PM
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11. Stepped in it -- and came out smelling like a rose
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 10:17 PM
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29. Not This Time...
don't forget the debate!
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 11:16 AM
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32. Agree...it's about the "perceptions." n/t
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grannylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 07:26 PM
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10. Dead on. You got it, he gets it, I get it, people in my area get it.
Fuckin' A right.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 07:29 PM
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12. You had me at "Elitist My Ass"
:thumbsup:

K&R
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 08:01 PM
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13. When I read the title, I thought it was going to be the Rude Pundit.
But this will do nicely. K&R.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 08:02 PM
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14. Here is another good post:
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 08:17 PM
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16. THAT should be an OP! Very good. nt
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 08:47 PM
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25. These are the definitions of Elitisim..
"You want elitism? Try being married to an heiress to a beer distribution fortune and being stuck in the most exclusive club on earth inside the beltway for the past twenty years. THAT'S elitism.

You want elitism? Try making $109 million over the past six years and running for President by virtue of the fact that your husband has already been President. THAT'S elitism.

You want elitism? Try being a pundit that been ensconsed inside the ultimate insider world of Washington politics, and then poo-pooing telling the truth about the mood in the countryside as being "condescending." THAT'S elitism."

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InsultComicDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 08:53 PM
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27. Excellent nt
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 11:52 AM
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34. BAM
Pretty soon people like those in the more distressed ares of Pa. won't be able to buy the beer McSame's wife sells.
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aaronbees Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 08:22 PM
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17. Clinton is becoming a master at projection
in this campaign. In the last 7 years of BushCo you could pretty much guarantee that what Bush said about Democrats was true about himself; looks like that's Sen. Clinton's mode of attack, too. I'm sick of it.
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 08:31 PM
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20. The more they yap about Obama being 'elite' when he talks about how we really feel..
...the more VOTES he gets.

It got him mine.

What IS the deal with Hillary getting into bed with McSame against Obama?

EXCUSE ME!? Does that woman have NO shame? WHAT LEVELS she'll stoop to...let's just say - I don't want someone who'll do THAT to be President - to be President.

I've gone Obama.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 08:40 PM
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22. Transcript from Jack Cafferty, Jeffery Toobin, and Gloria Borger
on hilary trying to make something of Obama's comments at a private fundraiser..

<snip>

"CAFFERTY: Look, Jeff's right. They call it the rust belt for a reason. The great jobs and the economic prosperity left that part of the country two or three decades ago. The people are frustrated. The people have no economic opportunity. What happens to folks like that in the Middle East, you ask? Well, take a look. They go to places like al Qaeda training camps. I mean, there's nothing new here. And what Barack Obama was suggesting is not that the people of Pennsylvania are to blame for any of it. It's that the jerks in Washington, D.C., as represented by the ten years of the Bushes and the Clintons and the McCains who have lied to and misled these people for all of this time while they shipped the jobs over seas and signed phony trade deals like NAFTA are to blame for the deteriorating economic conditions among America's middle class. I mean, I'm a college dropout and I can read the damn thing and figure it out."

<snip>

"TOOBIN: I just think it's remarkable that Barack Obama, this guy who grew up in a single-family household with no money, who lived in Indonesia, who came from very modest upbringings, somehow he's the elitist? That's really a pretty extraordinary sort of contortion of his background..."

<more>
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5465056#5465120
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 08:44 PM
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24. Beautiful, zidzi. That's it in a nutshell!
Thanks for finding those quotes. :hi:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 09:05 PM
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28. And thanks to Stephanie!
I was just scouring DU at 1:30am and came across the priceless transcript to the video with the amazIng Trio actually defending Obama on cnn..

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/4/11/235050/410/205/494075

:hi:
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 10:26 PM
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30. K&R
:kick:
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Road Scholar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 10:59 AM
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31. Well said, my friend. The truth. eom
:toast:
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 11:17 AM
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33. Yes. K&R
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kevinmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 12:12 PM
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35. PA. White women begin to turn away from Clinton
LEVITTOWN, Pa. — Like many women over 50, Paula Houwen was eager to vote for Hillary Clinton for president.

"I was impressed when she was first lady. She wasn't the country's trophy wife," the 56-year-old suburban Philadelphia pharmacist recalled.

Today, though, Houwen's no longer a Clinton fan.

"I do not like the way Hillary Clinton has run her campaign," she said.

Clinton's strongest core of support — white women — is beginning to erode in Pennsylvania, the site of the critical April 22 Democratic presidential primary, and a loss here could effectively end her White House run.

A Quinnipiac University survey taken April 3-6 in Pennsylvania found that Clinton's support fell 6 percentage points in a week among white women. Nationally, a Lifetime Networks poll of women found that 26 percent said they liked Clinton less now than in January, while only 15 percent said they liked her more.

"These are Democratic women who waited all their lives for a woman president, but Hillary is not turning them on," said polling analyst Clay Richards.

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/homepage/story/33411.html






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democracy1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 12:25 PM
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36. K & R
:kick:
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knixphan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 08:04 PM
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37. lovely
"...the more you yap about Obama being 'elite' -while he's talking about how we really feel and you're releasing 109 Million dollar tax returns- the more stupid you look."

Great.
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