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MojoMojoMojo Donating Member (579 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 07:08 PM
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Obama He opposes concealed carry and the right to self-defense.
http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Obama+Misfires+On+Concealed+Carry-a01610955628
"In a 1996 questionnaire, Obama wrote that he "supported banning the manufacture, sale and possession of handguns."
....That self-defense bill protecting the right to bear arms for law-abiding citizens such as DeMar passed the Illinois state Senate and was enacted into law over the governor's veto (and Obama's opposition).

It's no surprise, then, that Sen. Obama has come out in opposition to concealed-carry laws. In anticipation of an April 16 debate in Philadelphia on the anniversary of the Virginia Tech shootings, Obama told the Pittsburgh Tribune: "I am not in favor of concealed weapons. I think that creates a potential atmosphere where more innocent people could (get shot during) altercations."
...Obama's Web site says: "He will protect the rights of hunters and other law-abiding Americans to purchase, own, transport and use guns for the purposes of hunting and target shooting" (emphasis ours).

Not, apparently, for you to protect your wife and children."
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MojoMojoMojo Donating Member (579 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 07:09 PM
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1. His position makes him unelectable.
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MidwestTransplant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 07:35 PM
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18. I guess Hillary is too then. Guess we're screwed.
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Blondiegrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 09:14 PM
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33. I wish the Hillary supporters would make up their minds.
Obama is either too conservative or too liberal. Which is it? Or should I say, which is it today? :eyes:
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virginia mountainman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 07:10 PM
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2. Not to mention, his past support for ANY gun control
Edited on Sat Apr-12-08 07:11 PM by virginia mountainman
Like an out right Ban on ALL, semi-autos.....


Name ONE, pro 2nd Amendment law, he supported.....
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peoli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 07:12 PM
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3. Good. I hope we become a gun free society.
Edited on Sat Apr-12-08 07:12 PM by horseface
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MojoMojoMojo Donating Member (579 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 07:15 PM
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5. That might be nice except the for the constitution was intended to allow citizens to
defend from tyrany.
Obama blew it.
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peoli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 07:19 PM
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7. The second amendment was never intended for people to be walking the streets with semi automatic wea
pons. It was fucking written over 200 years ago. Think about CONTEXT of a new country. Think late 1700's dude.
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 07:29 PM
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15. The First Amendment was never intended for people to get their political news from DU and DailyKos
It was fucking written over 200 years ago. Think about CONTEXT of a new country. Newspapers and town criers are all that you're entitled to, dude.

See? One can play the game, two can play the game. You want access to DU and other political blogs, you keep you hands off my AK-47. Easy, breezy, beautiful - Cover Girl.
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MojoMojoMojo Donating Member (579 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 08:02 PM
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26. So Tyrany is less of a concern today?I think Dems had better learn how to shoot.
The RW has all the weapons.
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 08:04 PM
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27. Did you mean to direct that response at my post?
Honestly, I think you and I are on the same side, here... :hi:
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virginia mountainman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 07:41 PM
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22. You tell Eleanor Roosevelt that...
And TRY to take that gun from her... (I get to post this twice in one day!!)



And here is a copy of her CCW permit...




Here is Eleanor, and Nancy Cook, who headed the Woman's Division of the Democratic Party in New York State.



I wonder what those two Women, would think about the lines of BULLSHIT spread by some of you today???


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MojoMojoMojo Donating Member (579 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 07:19 PM
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8. Constitutional law scholar.LOL
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peoli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 07:22 PM
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12. Is this your answer to the context of the late 1700's? an LOL? is that as deep as you get?
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quakerboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 07:21 PM
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11. Um.
hows it working out for you so far? All those guns in the hands of the people have been terribly effective at defending us against Tyrany so far, eh?

Or Not. Bush has come and gone, and taken all your rights with him. Maybe we need to start thinking about more effective and substantial ways to protect our country from the real threats it faces from within and without.
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 07:34 PM
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17. Uh-huh...Because a handgun is just what you need against a tank or tomahawk missile.
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 07:14 PM
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4. BO was board member of Joyce Foundation and considered accepting its presidency. VPC is funded by
Joyce and its goal is to ban handguns.
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JayFredMuggs Donating Member (881 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 07:18 PM
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6. Anyone who thinks concealed carry is an issue in this election
Edited on Sat Apr-12-08 07:20 PM by JayFredMuggs
Really has their head screwed on sideways, and certainly doesn't understand the US Constitution

Presidents do NOT change Amendments to the US Constitution by simply making statements of their beliefs.

Get a copy of the Constitution and read it, ok?

This is a waste of bandwidth as a thread here on this board.

Some gun-rights folks are so uninformed and so scared that you wonder how they ever figured out how to post here on this forum.

Scary that they have the right to carry guns around, isn't it?
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philk17088 Donating Member (74 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 07:19 PM
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9. Will he be a dictator?
Since when does POTUS get to ban guns? None of you ever heard of the House and Senate?
He may personally want to ban hand guns, which is his right, that doesn't mean it will ever happen.
Even if congress would some how pass such a law, the supreme court would determine it un-constitutional.

More molehill politics.
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JayFredMuggs Donating Member (881 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 07:21 PM
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10. RIGHT YOU ARE People who start threads like this, really need more medication for their
paranoia!

IMO
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PatGund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 07:22 PM
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13. You know.....
I'm a gun owner myself. (Beretta 9mm pistol)

I don't have a problem with Sen. Obama at all. I agree with too many of his other positions to worry that he could overturn 2nd amendent rights
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MojoMojoMojo Donating Member (579 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 07:26 PM
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14. But you have to admit that youre in the minority amongst gun owners.
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 07:47 PM
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23. I'm in that minority too, thank you very much.
I get so tired of other people who exercise their right to own guns presuming they speak for every gun owner.
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JayFredMuggs Donating Member (881 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 08:04 PM
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28. BRAVO!
For a reasonable post from a gun owner.

I support your rights, and I support Obama, too!
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 07:29 PM
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16. I'm pretty sure I own more guns than you do but
When you place your ownership of firearms above the ability of your children to earn a decent living and have a pleasant life, perhaps its time for you to sit down and reassess your priorities.

If I were gonna be scared that some asshole politician was planning to "grab" my guns I would be a lot more scared that it would be some authoritarian republican than Barack Obama.

But if you wanna sit around and be afraid your whole life don't let me stop ya.
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MojoMojoMojo Donating Member (579 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 07:39 PM
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20. Im only afraid that Obama will be the nominee with a no win platform
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 07:40 PM
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21. Well, he's the only candidate with a platform, so we'll have to choose him anyway.
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 07:36 PM
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19. Not this time!
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 07:49 PM
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24. thank god
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crankychatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 07:51 PM
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25. to the nether realm with transparent dragons
*poof*
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 08:13 PM
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29. Oh Goody! Guns, God, and Gays...
along with red state/blues state, black state/white state.
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solito Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 08:27 PM
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30. I'm with Obama on this one
I'm from New York and I know how dangerous is to walk around knowing others have guns in their cars or pants. It's unsafe.
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MojoMojoMojo Donating Member (579 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 08:54 PM
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31. You dont ban guns.You fix society so that people dont need to rob and steal.
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MojoMojoMojo Donating Member (579 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 08:56 PM
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32. Arent guns already illegal in NYC?
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