A valuable lesson learned

[Aussie leftie]

After reading hundreds of posts since the primaries began, I now believe that if you are a woman, don't ever consider running for president. You may be considered for VP, but don't go getting too carried away because the American public just aren't ready for you yet. Also, you don't want to go having too much money either, because that will count against you. Just because all past presidents have had massive bank accounts, that counts for nothing (they were men).

I realize that there are a lot of Obama supporters out there. All I ask is that you be fair. Save your fire for McCain.

[AX10]

1. kick

[FrenchieCat]

2. What this election has taught my daughters thus far is,

Don't take your husband on your job interview in order to get the job.

[Maddy McCall]

4. No, you've taught your daughter that.

I'm sure that Clinton hatred permeates your house.

[JoFerret]

20. They may yet learn

Don't take your wife on the job interview if you want to get the job.

(By that I mean that the attacks on Obama's wife will be fierce and she may not stand up so well. This is NOT an attack on her but rather an observation about the anticipated foulness of the GOP and its surrogates. And also how Obama's wife will draw that fire.)

[gateley]

3. Another valuable lesson --

if you DO run, try and refrain from ugly campaign tactics which smack of a greed for power at all costs. Makes people wonder about your integrity as a person.

[Aussie leftie]

9. what do you define as "ugly campaign tatics"?

[gateley]

10. Actions, statements that make me cringe and feel uncomfortable.

Thank you for asking.

[GarbagemanLB]

5. My lessons: Don't' use your husband's record as 'experience', don't play the victim/gender card if y

ou want to be a truly strong candidate, and don't support horrendous foreign policy mistakes only to become a vocal critic when the polls turn against it.

[Aussie leftie]

11. where and when did she use the "victim/gender card"?

[Arugula Latte]

6. Yeah, because we all know that Hillary represents ALL women...

:sarcasm:



People don't want to elect her not because she's a woman, but because of the way she's conducted herself.

[HCE SuiGeneris]

7. Another lesson: Speak honestly to people and don't make shit up.

People really dislike being treated like imbeciles... which is a direct effect of being lied to.

[babylonsister]

8. Your message is old. Yes, he sucks, she's great. Got it. Valuable?

Which message did you learn, oh wise one?

[TheDoorbellRang]

12. Hillary's whole mindset made America not ready for a woman president

That's precisely what she and her supporters just don't get.

Obama is running as a candidate for president who is an AA male.

Clinton is running as a woman candidate for president.

I know she doesn't get the difference because they're feeling compelled to run around reminding everyone that Obama is black -- amazed that no one seems to really notice or care.

[flor de jasmim]

13. She is not only running as the woman candidate, but as the victim.

The U.S. IS ready for a female candidate, just not the one running (according to her detractors): Barbara Boxer and Gov. Sebelius are two fine examples, and there are many more.

The whole point is for race and gender to take a back seat to issues. Hillary makes excellent points about issues, but she frames her whole campaign as being "up against the guys". I understand the feeling, and I have certainly been in positions where I was challenged for no other reason than being the only woman working at the same level as men, but there is a difference to what you say to yourself and your closest confidants, versus what you say to the nation at large. She didn't play the victim 10 years ago during the M L scandal, and there is no reason to do so now. She should have been better than that.

[CatnHat]

14. The only thing Clinton is a victim of

is smears and lack of respect from within our own party. It's out of control. It's a rotten shame that she and Bill Clinton have taken such a bashing from none other than democrats who should be defending her (somewhat, anyway). Hillary Clinton has proven not only to be fighter, but a leader and strong supporter of the working class.

So when Obama supporters have the urge to bash anyone; think twice; you just might need a few of her supporters in the end. The way it looks, millions of Clinton supporters are fed up with the constant disrespect the Obama camp and his supporters have for our former president and Hillary, the first woman candidate of the democratic party.

[cooolandrew]

17. You're right god save the queen. what what. They are public officials not above critique.

I mean if anyone of us on DU were working on Capitol hill and were not open to scrutiny, wouldn't that give us the opportunity to do whatever we pleased to the people. Yes, great things were done in the 90s that doesn't make them excluded from any criticism from there on in. Even GWB for all his faults has not made anything of peopel's free speech to praise or denounce any of his policy or behaviour.

[eridani]

15. It would also be a big help not to vote for cluster bombs and illegal wars n/t

[CatnHat]

16. . . and a flip flopper

who was against the Iraq War and then claimed HE supports Bush, Jr.

[lligrd]

18. Lincoln Had A Massive Bank Account?

I'd never heard that. Thanks for setting me straight.

Some more advice for women (or men) running:

Don't disenfranchise your base, thinking that they will support you no matter what.

Don't vote to illegally hand over your responsibilities to an idiot with the attention span of a 2 year old.

Don't share your fanciful stories with the media.

Don't claim you are tough, play dirty and then whine and play the victim when caught.

Take acting lessons before trying to act.

[JoFerret]

19. All mouth, no ears, no heart

Your very reasonable comment has landed in he mud swamp of so many Obama people. Happy to mouth off character assassinations and half-truths but never able to say - hmmm...you have a point there.