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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-04 07:26 AM
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Ha Ha...Repukes scrambling to copy MoveOn! Hypocrites!
WASHINGTON, May 28 — After months spent trying to shut down Democratic advocacy groups that have raised tens of millions of dollars in unlimited contributions to support Senator John Kerry, Republicans are scrambling to set up similar organizations to collect donations to help President Bush.

The Federal Election Commission's decision earlier this month to postpone new campaign finance rules that would have restricted these groups sent Republican operatives rushing to recruit fund-raisers and schedule events.

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/05/29/politics/campaign/29DONA.html?hp
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Doosh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-04 09:47 AM
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1. too little, too late
we're 5 months away
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-04 09:53 AM
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2. that is no more hypocritical
than it is for advocates of publicly financing elections raising private money until the rules change. They made their case, they lost. Now they will play by the clarified rules, that isn't hypocracy.
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-04 11:12 AM
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4. Oh fucking please
Edited on Sat May-29-04 11:13 AM by trumad
Read the piece below... What? it's illegal one minute and then OK the next. NO...they knew they got caught with their pants around their ankles and tried to intimidate to get their way..., When they realized that it wasn't going to work they changed their tune... It's fucking hypocricy at it's highest form!

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The Republican National Committee is warning television stations across the country not to run ads from the MoveOn.org Voter Fund that criticize President Bush, charging that the left-leaning political group is paying for them with money raised in violation of the new campaign-finance law.

"As a broadcaster licensed by the Federal Communications Commission, you have a responsibility to the viewing public, and to your licensing agency, to refrain from complicity in any illegal activity," said the RNC's chief counsel, Jill Holtzman Vogel, in a letter sent to about 250 stations Friday.

"Now that you have been apprised of the law, to prevent further violations of federal law, we urge you to remove these advertisements from your station's broadcast rotation."

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/03/07/moveon.ads/
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Lefty Pragmatist Donating Member (430 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-04 10:38 AM
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3. Enough hypocrisy in this for both parties.
We've been pretty slimey in this, too, I'm afraid.

MoveOn's ads in the DC Metro subway system are hilarious, though. It is nice to see at least one liberal advocacy group that's grown a pair.
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-04 11:14 AM
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5. Slimey..in what way...
care to name it?
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Lefty Pragmatist Donating Member (430 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-04 11:23 AM
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6. Deliberately circumventing
the spirit of campaign finance reform.

The thing is, we endlessly bitch and whine that the Republicans are the primary problem with finance reform, but it's a mutual effort.

I have no problem with us playing the angles -- we need to defend our interests. But presenting it like it's a moral/ethical distinction is false. It's ugly power politics, period.

Now let's stop bleating and just win, baby.
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Alerter_ Donating Member (898 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-04 11:38 AM
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7. The will have massive amounts of money from corporations and the rich
but they won't have even a fraction of active members like our groups do. Corporations will heavily fund polluter groups, the religious right already has similar organizations.

The ones to watch carefully are "security" and "defense" 527s, and the NRA.
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gulliver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-04 01:33 PM
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8. It won't help them.
The best thing about MoveOn's stuff is that it is true. I actually hope that the unprincipled wing of the GOP (Bushies, et ilk) spends a billion dollars trying to tell people we found WMD ... or that WMD was never the point. While they are at it, maybe they can explain why it is good that majorities in nearly every country hate Bush.

You can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. Let them try.
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