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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 08:27 PM
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Will rampage of terror attacks in US help Bush get re-elected?
Can bin Laden Save Bush?
By Marc Ash
t r u t h o u t | Perspective

Friday 28 May 2004

If you ever doubted the potential for violent actions to affect political change, the events in Madrid on the morning of March 11th 2004 erased all doubt. Early on that Thursday morning, sympathizers of Osama bin Laden seized a wide-open opportunity to alter the course of a modern western democracy through carnage.


Four packed commuter trains were torn apart by powerful explosives designed to kill in large numbers -- they did. In all, 191 people on their way to work died and some 1500 were wounded. The timing, just four days prior to Spain's national elections, was clearly an effort to affect those elections. The ruling People's Party, led by Prime Minister Jose Maria Aznar, was unexpectedly swept from power by the opposition Spanish Socialist Workers' Party, led by Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero. But the life and death question is, why?

Why Spain turned on Aznar
You may attempt to make the argument that Spain rewarded Osama bin Laden by rejecting Aznar, but I do not recommend you attempt to make it on the streets of Madrid. If you did, you would quickly be confronted by the truth. Aznar sealed his own fate by lying to the Spanish people.

Aznar lied on two major counts. First; In committing the Spanish to a war they did not want, taking the position that it was needed to fight terrorism. That is a lie. The minions of bin Laden will never be defeated by armies marching. They can only be defeated meticulous police work and by social and economic conditions that do not drive supporters to them. Second; In the aftermath of the bombings, Aznar attempted gain political advantage by blaming the Basque separatist group ETA. That was an insult to Spain.

The resulting verdict rendered at the polls was not an acceptance of bin Laden's madness, but rather a condemnation of Aznar's betrayal of Spain.

The other side of the Atlantic
On the 10th day of September 2001, George W. Bush's poll numbers were better than they are today, but not much. The Rehnquist-ordained presidency was having difficulty impressing anyone but the Republican faithful. That was about to change; as the towers fell, George W. Bush's fortunes rose. Overnight his approval ratings doubled, and that was just the start. Over the past two and a half years since the attacks, Bush has used the fear generated by September 11th to effect a broad social and economic agenda that had little or nothing to do with national security.

Attacks this summer
Wednesday's press briefing by John Ashcroft was a puzzlement. The presentation appeared more geared towards public relations than public safety. One had to wonder if Ashcroft was trying to stop terror, or cause it. Where was the information here? What purpose did this serve? For the record Mr. Ashcroft, if you have any real information about attacks on Americans, we would love to hear about them -- you know John, like the information that caused you stop flying commercial aircraft in the weeks prior to the attacks of September 11th? How do we qualify for those kind of warnings?

Ashcroft did take the opportunity to suggest that Madrid might set the stage for similar attacks in the U.S. prior to our November elections, saying, "Al-Qaida may perceive that a large-scale attack in the United States this summer or fall would lead to similar consequences." Al-Qaida may perceive that, but only if they can't read. The last Al-Qaida operation on U.S. soil did little to empower the opposition. On the contrary, it put the opposition on the endangered species list.

The Baghdad trap
If you believe that bin Laden would like to sweep Bush from power, then you would have to wonder if an act of violence on U.S. soil would produce that. However if you are concerned that Baghdad is bin Laden's trap for Bush, then you might wonder if another attack on U.S. soil might better serve bin Laden's interest. It would, in greater likelihood, keep Bush in power and the U.S. Army in Baghdad. If that, in fact, is what bin Laden wants, then this could be a very dangerous summer indeed.

More at:

http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/052804A.shtml
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Hornito Donating Member (460 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 08:41 PM
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1. Some *itch was on Rush Oxybaugh's show today, saying she
hoped for another "9/11 type attack, that would unite the country again behind Bush." I was so goddamn mad when I heard this, I almost drove off the road. Rush jumped in, not very quickly, and lamely said he didn't think that was a good idea, or words to that effect. These fascist, traitorous bastards are crazy, and if this keeps up, where in order to keep their Dear Leader in office, that they're going to wish terrorist attacks on our nation, there's going to be a civil-war sooner, than later. And, I for one, would love to get my hands on any bastard who would dare call for attacks on our nation to help their candidate, so let the war start!!
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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 08:46 PM
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2. Why isn't Tom Ridge banging HER door in at 3AM?
Just wondering.
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livinginphotographs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 08:50 PM
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3. She's probably not brown enough....
n/t
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Hornito Donating Member (460 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 08:52 PM
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4. Good question!!!!
n/t
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 08:52 PM
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5. I must admit Tom Ridge impressed me when he didn't play up John Ashcrofts
political stunt yesterday. Bush acted like he was confused that they were not talking. Yeah right! Thank you Tom Ridge for being a straight shooter!
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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 08:59 PM
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6. I don't know if I am as convinced of his decency.
I find it very hard to let myself trust any of these guys.
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Goose3five Donating Member (125 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 09:28 PM
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8. It was not decency
It was "cover your ass," he saw clearly that this was a political stunt and didn't want to end up testifying as to his complicity.
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MI Cherie Donating Member (682 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 09:14 PM
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7. They are really getting desperate!
Anyone with half a brain and an ounce of common sense would realize that another attack would PROVE Bu$hCo's incompetence!

Unless, of course, they try to blame it on Clinton!
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joanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 11:26 PM
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9. I agree!
And even blaming it on Clinton this time probably wouldnt work.
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