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Syrinx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 05:41 AM
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We Need A Hard Break -- PERIOD!
Edited on Thu Apr-03-08 05:50 AM by Syrinx
I'm sitting here watching the Senate Iraq hearings on C-SPAN, hearing one former General after another talk about what a disaster Iraq is, and how there is really no decent way out.

Every representative, and every senator that voted to authorize this colossal mistake needs to swallow their pride, and admit that they screwed up, and admit that their judgment can't be trusted. They should resign from office and promise never to run for public office again.

If you want to be hard-hearted about it, then forget the hundreds of thousands of lives that have been sacrificed for this monumental blunder.

Forget about the trillions of dollars that have found their way into the pockets of greedy, corrupt arms dealers, and other assorted friends of the regime. Forget about all the food that money could have bought for the hungry. Forget all the education that money could have paid for. Forget all those rickety bridges that could have been repaired.

Forget how this economy has been sold out; how the American dollar has been abandoned. Forget how this country is now teetering on the greatest disaster since the Great Depression.

If you are really that cruel, just forget about all those innocent American, Iraqi, and British sons and daughters that made the ultimate sacrifice -- for a lie. Just forget about all their loved ones, their sons and daughters, wives and husbands, and mothers and fathers, and friends. Just forget about them! Just forget about those millions of people that have had their hearts torn out to defend a lie!

I dare you!

How many of you, as of October 2002, still "trusted" President Bush? Tell the truth. Who here trusted George W. Bush in October of 2002?

Hillary Clinton said this on October 10, 2002, as she voted to give Bush the authorization to invade Iraq:

I will take the President at his word that he will try hard to pass a UN resolution and will seek to avoid war, if at all possible.

Did you trust George W. Bush, as of October 10, 2002?

Really? On what did you base that trust?

In contrast, around the same time, Barack Obama said the following:

“I know that Saddam poses no imminent and direct threat to the United States, or to his neighbors. … I know that even a successful war against Iraq will require a U.S. occupation of undetermined length, at undetermined cost, with undetermined consequences. I know that” “invasion of Iraq without a clear rationale” “without strong international support will only fan the flames of the Middle East, and encourage the worst, rather than the best, impulses of the Arab world, and strengthen the recruitment arm of al-Qaeda. I am not opposed to all wars. I’m opposed to dumb wars.“

Just think, if we, as a country, would have sided with the then obscure Illinois state legislator.

Maybe a million more innocent people would still be alive. Millions more would still have their homes, and millions further would still have basic services that all people deserve.

If we had relied on the judgment of that obscure Illinois legislator, maybe we would still have that basic human right guaranteed by the Magna Carta, something called habeas corpus.

Most of us can agree, I think, that the criminals that have betrayed and sold out our basic Constitutional rights deserve to be held to account. (Well, but, for the trolls infesting this place for so long.)

Tell the truth. Who do you think is most likely to see that Justice is carried out? The community organizer from the meanest streets of Chicago, or the corporate lawyer from the suburbs of Chicago?

Tell me one reason that Americans should choose Hillary Clinton over Barack Obama.

There is NO valid reason whatsoever.

Tell the truth, and stay in the church.



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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 05:46 AM
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1. K+R
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 05:48 AM
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2. bush/cheney was lying in 02. I knew it. You knew it. The US Congress should've known it
Follow the money. People are just a means to an end with the bush/cheney gang and the corporations that sponsor them. The end is MONEY. Nobody died for a noble cause; they all died for money for a very few hands.
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GarbagemanLB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 05:51 AM
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3. This is the vote that ended any shot Hillary had at the white house. She should have done
her homework and read the NIE.
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 06:05 AM
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4. K/R.
:kick:
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InsultComicDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 06:08 AM
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5. I remember what it felt like to be opposed to the upcoming Iraq war
and so many people treating me like I must be some kind of untouchable hippie... an outcast. So many people became wingnuts at least temporarily. And then as it slowly became more and more apparent to them that we were right all along - we were still treated like some sort of leftist freaks. And wingnuts are still trying to portray us that way.

And what happens if we point out to those who have since turned against the war that we were right from the start, that we predicted that we would be in the same type of deep shit that we're in (and therefore it was entirely predictable)?

We are called "effete".
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Syrinx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 06:19 AM
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6. thanks Triumph!
I'm a big fan! :)

There a few people on here that I consider friends, that still prefer Clinton to Obama, and I just don't know what the hell they are thinking.

I guess they are the best of friends... for me to poop on. ;)
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SunsetDreams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 06:26 AM
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7. Yeah and now they are so ready to
go to war with Iran, even though a U.N. report said that Iran had no nukes, and were not in the process of making any.

But yet we are being told another lie by those in power.
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Syrinx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 06:32 AM
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8. there's a lot of "unbelievable" stuff going on right now
There's a certain "intelligentsia" that says "it cannot happen here."

I say they are full of shit. It is happening here, as we speak.

LaLa RawRaw (sp?) knows.
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Kokonoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 07:37 AM
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9. Thank You for explaining the next step in the right direction.
Barack Obama had the courage to tell the truth, in the age of the Dixie Chick bon fires.
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Pavlovs DiOgie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 07:42 AM
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10. K&R!
It's about judgement and foresight when most others were swept up in the fear of being labeled unpatriotic. As it turns out, Obama was acting more patriotic than any of those idiots who gave Bush the authority to invade.
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Syrinx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 04:00 PM
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11. judgement and foresight
Exactly!
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Rocky2007 Donating Member (156 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 05:28 PM
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12. Thank you for the thoughfull diary
Edited on Thu Apr-03-08 05:33 PM by Rocky2007
I am 70, heading to 71 in June and have been a republican until the 2004 elections when I switched parties.

At the time we were into the first 2 years of Bush and I am slapping myself for being SO stupid through those many years.

A PC Jr was my first computer so at that point (2002 +/-) was well involved with the internet but not with blogs. That ended right there! 2002 was my 'turn-a-round'. Bush was an idiot by then!

Today I read some 20+ blogs daily and am much more in tune with politics and eagerly await 8 years of President Obama along with a beautiful and intelligent first Lady Obama and their two beautiful girls.

Thank you for your post Syrinx

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Syrinx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 04:58 AM
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13. your first computer was better than mine!
My first was a Vic 20! ;)

Thanks for the kind comments!

:hi:
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