Reality: McCain's Foreign Policy speech today was damn good

[Phoebe Loosinhouse]

and appealing to moderates and centrists and Independents (and many Democrats!). He disavowed himself from Bush and his policies more than Hillary has ever done -that I have ever heard. She usually tries to outhawk the hawkiest. He declared us to be a citizen of the world who can should and will not torture. (my interpretation)

It is still just disgusting to me that Hillary has given more vocal support to her Republican opponent than she has her Democratic opponent.

I guess my point is that if Hillary is trying to be the Democratic McCain - he just did that, and better than she could do.

She has no role at this point except to weaken our likely candidate. There was a fork in the roads a while ago and she chose the low one - the one that led to a bog and a dead end for her.

[C_U_L8R]

1. The ridiculousness of classic Clintonian Triangulation Strategy

is that you end up standing for nothing.

[TwilightGardener]

McCain triangulates too. He knows the theme this year is

"rebuilding our friendships with other countries", but all Presidential candidates except Paul and Tancredo say that. Only the gullible are impressed by a neocon masking his neocon ways by suddenly wanting to get along better with Western countries that are already our allies and will agree to send troops where we want them to. Even Chimpy put together a "coalition of the willing", for God's sake. Rachel Maddow was right--the speech was STOOPID.

edited to be more kind.

[gateley]

2. About torture...

Didn't he recently give the thumbs up to waterboarding? That seems to be echoing in my head but of course.....:eyes:

[TTUBatfan2008]

3. Yes...he did

McCain voted against the ban on waterboarding, and then a few weeks later claimed on 60 Minutes that he was against it. Talk about flip-flopping. The MSM has not called him out on it and it's a disgrace. People talk about how unvetted Obama is, but McCain gets special treatment from the media compared to every other candidate. The NY Times ran a misleading hit piece on him and now everyone's afraid to criticize the guy. Plus they've never really been very critical of him to begin with.

[WinkyDink]

8. He's "against torture", but refuses to acknowledge water-boarding as such. THUS, McCain

APPROVES fo torture.

[tabasco]

4. Bomb Bomb Bomb, Bomb Bomb Iran!

I can't wait for this hellish primary to be over so we can start exposing this asswipe.

[Thrill]

5. McCain has never faced a real challenge from a Democrat

[Hawaii Hiker]

7. McCain has also not faced any challenge from the media, as

they are giving him a complete free pass....The only news that's mentioned about that SOB McCain are positive stories......

:banghead:

[Warren Stupidity]

6. He voted for torture. McCain is a corrupt liar.

[UALRBSofL]

9. I think Hillary is much more progressive then McCain

Take a look at her platform issues and you'll see how much more progressive she is then McCain.

[BeyondGeography]

10. It may well have been, but it was unwatchable

Maybe Obama has ruined it for me when other people give a speech, but McCain bores me to tears. He's much better in the Q&A setting when he's able to show some wit. Public speaking is not his thing.

[VolcanoJen]

11. For the record, that speech today was a retread from a Pro-War Op/Ed he wrote in 2001.

I'm not sure McCain knows what year it is.

McCain Recycles 2001 Pro-War Column For 2008 Speech - Huffington Post

[goclark]

17. Keith blasted the speech and McCain nt

[TwilightGardener]

12. I must be missing the McCain Genius. Repeatedly. What bits I heard did not impress me.

[Mz Pip]

13. I watched part of it.

I don't know what was so great about it. He seemed old, tired, unenthusiastic and uninspired.

He may try to distance himself from Bush but actions speak louder than words and his policies are pretty much the same as Bush's. MOre war, until we say so.

Mz Pip
:dem:

[Danger Mouse]

14. Oh, just you wait. We'll be ready for ole Johnny.

[DrFunkenstein]

15. McCain = Bush III

I can't wait until Obama hits him where it hurts. I think John Kerry could beat McCain, and Obama is a much better speaker than Kerry.

[ProSense]

16. Well, he was wrong about everything

McCain's Speech

Click through at the link to fact check!