Note to Clinton campaign: STOP TALKING NEAR MICROPHONES

[underpants]

Sheezus! I am away for the weekend and I turn on the box this morning and I see the Clinton campaign back to its old tricks- shooting themselves in the foot verbally

You have Bill saying that Obama isn't worried about this country (ties right into the "What WAS in his passport file that they were curious about?" ) and now they are attacking Richardson??

I realize that the problem in the Hillary operation is that they are their own little "Gray's Anatomy" going there-the players make more news apart from the actual "product" as they do MAKING the product, the glorious selfpromotion is sucking all the energy out of the reason they are there to begin with- maybe they should take a step back and realize it themselves.


When we last left the daily saga of General Blunder and the Restless the contemptuous Patti confronted Howard and Mark.....

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[EmperorHasNoClothes]

1. I think we're going to need a "Top 10 Clinton Campaign Idiots" pretty soon...

[SoFlaJet]

2. what's really weird is

you can play the tapes a thousand times and some will tell you that you're not hearing what you THINK you're hearing

[underpants]

3. Good point

on both sides

[ThatBozGuy]

5. The interesting part is the difference seems to be if people hear the full context of the minutes...

before where Mr Clinton spent a large amount of time building up Mr McCains service and talked about Mr McCain chalenges that made him all American when the terrorist of war and stuff <his word tried to take that away from him and then segued into the edited clip that seemed borderline and ended with comment that it would be good to have great American John McCain and patriot Ms Clinton as opposed to the other stuff< as in Mr Obama going back to link him and his patriot in a back aswards way to the Viet Cong that captured Mr McCain and oh by the way he was talking before a VFW audience. Yup really weird.

[underpants]

7. They are all buddies inside the castle walls

but that I don't mean to paint Obama as being outside in a racist-for-sympathy sort of way

What I mean is that McCain and Hillary are known quantities for the inside-DC crowd and their corporate sponsors. Obama is acceptable sure but he hasn't proven himself in their eyes yet. That, regardless of what the Hillary crowd whines about, is why the press is so soft on McCain and carrying the Rev. Wright thing out as far as they are.

Just my opinion.

[SoxFan]

4. Kick for the Gray's Anatomy reference

God, I hate that show, but the comparison is right on the mark!

[Tatiana]

6. The players make more news apart from the actual "product"

Well there you have it. Once this race is over, Hillary will either be in the WH or the Senate. She will be in public service. But Penn, Carville, Wolfson, all of her other message-managers have consulting firms to run. I found it very telling that during the height of a very tight campaign race, Mark Penn who is supposed to be Clinton's "chief strategist" was out http://www.oliverwillis.com/archives/2008/02/12/oh-to-be-mark-penn-senior-stra/">shilling and signing his own book. In February. Right after Super Tuesday. When Hillary was supposed to have wrapped this thing up.

These people around Hillary have no loyalty to either their candidate or progressive values. Their loyalty is to the almighty dollar.

[underpants]

8. Who ARE these guys?

Not Hillary's people-Obama's

I know some of the names but not a one (okay Daschle) of the faces in Obamas camp. Hmmm and they seem to take their time and have a measured response (spot on so far even if a bit late here and there) so far. Seriously WHO ARE THESE GUYS????


the secret is we are not supposed to know. When people start stepping out from behind the cameras your product no longer is getting the attention.

There is at least a weekly article in the major pubs about the innerworkings of the Hillary campaign every week-usually a long one somewhere on Sunday.

[Tatiana]

10. You illustrate why it is better not to know.

If the message-managers are the story then that means the candidate is taking a back seat. How is that fulfilling their job duties: namely to GET THE CANDIDATE ELECTED?

What I like about Axelrod is that he is pretty low-key and has been during his previous work in Chicago and in other campaigns. This is really the first time people (outside of IL and MA) are hearing about him and that is only because he is the front-runner's chief message-manager. Also, Axelrod is cheaper at $1 million, has run a better organization, does not circumvent the candidate's wishes, and seems amenable to performance-based pay. But we don't hear about any of this in the Sunday Times, which means the focus is on the candidate.

If Hillary loses, her loss will be more of a reflection on her advisers than herself. And like the Donna Brazille's of the Democratic World, they will continue to make millions without much success to show for it.

[helderheid]

9. what did I miss?

[underpants]

11. 2

James Carville "told the New York Times that Richardson, who was in Bill Clinton's Cabinet, had committed 'an act of betrayal,' adding that it 'came right around the anniversary of the day when Judas sold out for 30 pieces of silver, so I think the timing is appropriate, if ironic.'"
http://www.usnews.com/usnews/politics/bulletin/bulletin_080324.htm

''I think it would be a great thing if we had an election year where you had two people who loved this country and were devoted to the interests of this country,'' he (Bill Clinton)told a group of veterans on Friday in Charlotte, North Carolina.
http://www.ndtv.com/convergence/ndtv/story.aspx?id=NEWEN20080044838