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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 06:04 PM
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Obama: "I trusted Rezko" Judgement matters
words matter, experience matters

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/chi-obama-r...

He was a friend. Rezko helped bankroll Obama in five election runs

Is Obama's judgment on his friends and church indicative of what is going to come out of his messy office?
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 06:05 PM
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1. Give it up! It doesn't look good for you. I feel your pain though.
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 06:05 PM
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2. lol rezko
:rofl:
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 06:06 PM
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3. RE: IWR - Obama one good judgment in a lifetime of bad judgments does not make a President.
Edited on Sat Mar-15-08 06:06 PM by ElsewheresDaughter
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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 06:08 PM
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4. 4K dead soldiers and many more wounded. Thanks Hillary.
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Plucketeer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 07:57 PM
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20. Denny Hastert ..
.. trusted Mark Foley too. ...........just sayin'. :-)
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 06:09 PM
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5. And Hillary trusted Bill and GW - go figure!
Edited on Sat Mar-15-08 06:09 PM by polichick
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Yes We Did Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 06:09 PM
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6. Yes, judgment does matter. Now Hillary, About that Iraq War Vote...
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 06:09 PM
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7. Well I agree...that's pretty dumb. Almost as bad as trusting Bush to not invade a country.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 06:12 PM
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8. why did the Clintons pardon Marc Rich?
remember it is 'we'
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MojoMojoMojo Donating Member (579 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 06:31 PM
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11. Search Marc Rich Mossad
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 07:09 PM
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16. Oh oh!
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 06:16 PM
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9. Hillary's judgement of sticking with her philandering husband doesnt inspire confidence
She knew of his trysts long before Monica, yet she stayed with him to help further her own ambitions.

Thats not the kind of judgement I want in the WH.
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cbayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 07:03 PM
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14. You don't know why she stayed with him
and, frankly, it's none of your business.
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pdxmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 06:17 PM
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10. Okay, you win. Now, let's get on with it. Obama misjudged the
Edited on Sat Mar-15-08 06:18 PM by pdxmom
trustworthiness of a fundraiser to the tune of $250,000. And he was a member of an 8,000 member megachurch whose preacher said mean things in a scary way. Poor judgment.

Clinton voted for the IWR because she trusted Bush wouldn't invade and now thousands are dead. Hsu - she trusted a fundraiser to the tune of $850,000. Poor judgment.

So far we're even. Your turn. What's your next gripe? Cause I guarantee I can match them point for point.
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Saturday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 06:34 PM
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12. When you're running on your GOOD JUDGEMENT then maybe you should have
GOOD JUDGEMENT or maybe you should run on something else.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 06:36 PM
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13. When you're running on experience, you need to have actually done
more than having experience making bad mistakes.
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Spiffarino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 07:27 PM
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19. Pssst...no, she really doesn't have experience
Edited on Sat Mar-15-08 07:28 PM by Spiffarino
HRC is engaging in a wee bit of revisionist history on SCHIP:
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/03/14/c... /

Oh, and she didn't have much of anything to do with the Northern Ireland accords, either:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/max-bergmann/hillarys-rid...

And of course, there is the matter of her "dangerous trip into war-torn Bosnia" she's been touting:
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/sleuth/2008/03/sinbad_un...

Therefore, if you stack Hillary Clinton's experience against Barack Obama's, you have a two-term US Senator from NY versus a one-term US Senator and three-term State Senator from Illinois. In terms of legislative experience you have:

Hillary R. Clinton: 7 years
Barack H. Obama: 11 years


I think we have a winner.

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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 08:55 PM
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22. This is true
.
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 07:04 PM
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15. SSDD....
... :eyes:
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alteredstate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 07:25 PM
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17. Hillary Clinton trusted Bushco.
Edited on Sat Mar-15-08 07:44 PM by alteredstate
4000 American soldiers and hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqi citizens paid the price.

Obama was thoroughly vetted today by a tough crowd of Chicago reporters. Give this petty shit a rest.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 07:27 PM
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18. IT'S ALL OOOOOOOOOOOOVER!!!!!


:rofl:
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:05 PM
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25. OMG! Is that real??
:rofl:
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 02:20 AM
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26. Nah....I put it together
Real in spirit, though.

:-)
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 08:08 PM
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21. What's Rezko Opinion on Iran?
Will Obama give Rezko "the benefit of the doubt" on it?
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Umbram Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:02 PM
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23. Bad business deal vs. war costing hundreds of thousands of lives.
Judgment matters. We all screw up, I guess it matters how big of a screwup we are, now doesn't it?
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casus belli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:03 PM
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24. Are you willing to examine your candidate of choice...
with the same microscope?
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 02:24 AM
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27. And who trusted W?
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avrdream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 06:12 AM
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28. So true.
But this won't get a whole lot of traction in GD-P. The BO supporters seem to like this type of judgment.
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 06:44 AM
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29. Shall we discuss the Kyl/Lieberman amendment?
Or the Iraq war vote?
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 06:46 AM
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30. First, tell us why you're so anxious to change the subject.
Edited on Sun Mar-16-08 06:47 AM by Perry Logan
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 06:50 AM
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31. The topic of the thread is about judgment and experience.
Edited on Sun Mar-16-08 06:55 AM by myrna minx
Anxiety has nothing do do with it.

On edit: I worked very hard to prevent the Iraq war. My elected officials: Senator Wellstone, Senator Dayton and Representative Sabo all voted against the IWR. This is a very personal topic for me, and yes, I do believe judgement does matter on this.
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 07:03 AM
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33. The topic of the thread is Obama's judgment. Kyle-Liebermann has been thoroughly discussed.
Edited on Sun Mar-16-08 07:05 AM by Perry Logan
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 07:43 AM
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34. If we throw open the doors of both houses and cast sunshine in, I'm sure we will find
some unsavory donors. Of this I have no doubt. I'm not going to participate in a donor war with anyone, because I think we will find that no one wins.

The OP refers to Rev. Wright as an example of Obama using bad judgment. I disagree. Many Americans aren't aware of Liberation theology:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberation_theology

This link is just a brief overview of the theology and it may give some context for Rev. Wright;s perspective. The Reverend said things that made me uncomfortable, but it doesn't mean that I don't agree with him on most things. Do I agree with him about everything? No. I don;t agree with anyone about everything. Liberation theology isn't about making someone feel comfortable, it's about not resting until *all* that are oppressed and suffering are liberated and brought to the promised land. OK, my description is embarrassingly inadequate, but it's the best I can do before I have my coffee. :silly:

Agree or disagree with Rev. Wright, that's a matter of personal judgment too, but I thought I'd share a little bit of what I know, because it's not your typical Lutheran service. (I was raised Lutheran.)

Kyl/Lieberman may have been thoroughly discussed here, but it is still an important issue for me as is is the IWR. That speaks to judgement too, is all I'm saying.

BTW, I love your avatar. Max was so ahead of his time. :hi:
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 07:50 AM
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35. I hear you. We should probably question the judgment of anyone who wants to run for President.
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WonderGrunion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 06:58 AM
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32. Dude, you're still pushing Rezko?
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Rezko was so last month, nobody is wearing that anymore.
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Hugabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 07:57 AM
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36. It's a good thing Hillary has never associated with dubious characters
There's nobody in Hillary's past that she wouldn't be ashamed of because of her close association with, is there?

:rofl:
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Abacus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 07:58 AM
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37. Hillary "I trusted Bill"
Hillary "I trusted Hsu"
Hillary "I trusted Scruggs"
...
Do we really want to play this game? Consistency matters.

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