Hillary accusing Obama of ABANDONING & SHUNNING Pennsylvania

[housewolf]

Clinton Camp: Obama Abandoning Pennsylvania: The Clinton camp is spinning Obama's memo lowering expectations as a complete white flag, and suggesting that he is thereby giving up in a general election:

The Clinton campaign chastised Barack Obama this morning for what they said is his shunning of Pennsylvania, a state that the campaign argues a Democratic candidate needs to carry to win the general election.

On the call, according to Howard Wolfson, were a "great lineup of guests," including Governor Ed Rendell, who talked about "the Obama campaign's attempt to diminish the importance of the state" and Mayor Michael Nutter, who said he would "fire" a staffer who wrote a memo lowering expectations in Pennsylvania.


That reaction is in response to this:
"Obama Camp Downplays: The Obama camp is trying to avoid letting Pennsylvania become the focal point of the next six weeks. From their latest memo:

Now that Mississippi is behind us, we move on to the next ten contests. The Clinton Campaign would like to focus your attention only on Pennsylvania - a state in which they have already declared that they are "unbeatable." But Pennsylvania is only one of 10 remaining contests, each important in terms of allocating delegates and ultimately deciding who are nominee will be. Senator Obama campaigned in Pennsylvania yesterday and will do so again later this week, but he will also campaign aggressively in the other upcoming states - he will travel to other upcoming states in the very near future."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/02/17/pennsylvania-primary-lat_n_87069.html

[Muttocracy]

1. speaking of abandoning...

when was the last time they talked to their constituents? :eyes:

[Kittycat]

11. Last week, when I wrote.

:shrug:

[Muttocracy]

15. so Obama got back to you? glad to hear it. nt

[Kittycat]

Or a staffer.

Either way, it shows that he's not slacking in his resposibilities.

I've written on several occassions, and he's been very considerate to type well formed and direct to my point responses. Nothing has ever seemed "canned" coming from him. Quite sincere, even when we didn't agree.

Hastert on the other hand, never once responded in all the times I wrote to him. No surprise. I contacted his office about it once, and was basically told that you can't expect him to respond to everything. When I told them Obama did, they just said he is very busy and will review it when he has time.

[Muttocracy]

30. that actually means a lot to me

I am not as good as I should about writing to Congress, but so far Schumer's office has acknowledged things while Clinton's office hasn't.

[Kittycat]

39. Seriously?

I'm sorry to hear that. I know they get a lot of correspondence, but they do represent us after all. I am fine hearing from a representative of their office, but I appreciate the consideration Obama has given. Hastert won't be missed, that's for certain. The arrogance just seethed from him. I'm looking forward to having Foster represent us now that Hastert is gone :)

[Selatius]

2. I guess Obama thinks a 10-state campaign is better than putting all the eggs in one basket. n/t

[MadBadger]

14. Holy Ghouliani Batman!

[BOSSHOG]

3. Thats kinda silly

since the state's primary is six weeks away. I live in Mississippi and I got sick of the two of them in just a few days. I'd suggest candidates kinda wait till closer to the actual day of voting to descend upon the populous like the locusts candidates are.

[underpants]

12. I've always said that

buy a minute or two every night on the local news. Do a issue or a back story (of a local for instance) every night. AND point out that you AREN'T running ads.

but then Dems have this really dumb practice of paying their political advisors (the ones ALREADY on their staff) a percentage of the media buy. Gee wonder what course of action they advise?

[BOSSHOG]

20. I guess I'm a really silly guy

but I seriously think that the primary season should have started about now, not ended.

[Muttocracy]

26. so silly - how could national or international issues be any different in 6 months? nt

[Muttocracy]

16. locusts - there's a good cartoon in there somewhere... nt

[BOSSHOG]

24. Hello My friend, you are my BASF

You don't make my cartoon, you make my cartoon Better!

and if the two "frontrunners" have any smarts they will put Joe Biden to work somewhere in their administration.

[dchill]

41. Obviously you missed the "wet blanket" bulletin.

[skipos]

4. Hillary is losing so many states

that she just picks one that she has a good shot in and says "It is all about this state! This state is the most important won in America! If Obama can't win this one state, the fact that he has won more votes, more pledged delegates, more red states, more blue states, more swings states, more primaries and more caucuses MEANS NOTHING!!!"

Great strategy.

[bunnies]

5. This is so pathetic its laughable.

Par for the course.

[berni_mccoy]

6. Spin. Lie. Spin. Lie... the Clinton drama queens must all be on dramamine

Otherwise, they'd be sick from all the spinning and lying they are doing.

[underpants]

7. you need to worry about your own campaign not theirs

:eyes:

[Cha]

8. More demogoguery and whinging from hilary.

While it's obvious what she really wants..

[walldude]

9. HIlarious coming from someone who thinks if she wins just

the "big" states that's enough to give her the nomination.

[housewolf]

34. As if whichever Dem was the nominee

wouldn't win those state against McCain in the GE...


:sarcasm:

[thevoiceofreason]

10. This is the "flip-side" strategy

"Gosh - Obama nailed us on the FACT that we ignored all those tweener flyover states."

"Let's say that he is doing the same thing to Pennsylvania!"

"That will make them mad."

"Divide -- conquer -- scorch the earth!"

[flyarm]

13. Obama hasn't a prayer in PA...and he can not win in Fla..and didn't win in Ohio..or

NY or Calif , or Ny..so will someone please tell me how he plans to win in Nov???????

he can't..and won't!

Fla will go to McCain..so will Pa..so will NJ ..

who is kidding who here?

so he won some red states..he will not win most of them in Nov..not going to happen..
and when the Repigs open their slime machine on him and the kids that are his supporters get their shorts in a twist..what is going to happen..it will be a McCainnutcase landslide..

wake up people ..pleaseeeeeeeeeee...before it is too late.

If Kerry a war hero could be slimed ..and Max Cleland could be slimed..what is going to happen to Tony Rezko- Obama???????????

This is a train wreck on its way to happening!

fly

[MadBadger]

18. Rasmussen poll came out today showing Hillary down two in PA, and Obama down 1.

Your argument that Obama wouldnt win PA holds up as much as mine does.

[truebrit71]

21. Um, Monica Lewinsky, Whitewater, Vince Foster, Marc Rich, Aspirin Factories..

...What fucking planet are you living on??...Clinton won't win a single fucking state in the fall if she worms her way into the nomination...

McShame is a slam-dunk loser to Obama...

Everyone but the rabid hillbots know that...

[EFerrari]

27. Train wreck? What the F worse train wreck could there be

than launching Hillary to unite the scattered, imploding Republicans?

Really, that just makes no sense. All you have to do to get a Republican off of their @ss is say "Hillary"/

[housewolf]

35. Just because more Dems voted for Hillary in the primary than for Obama in those states

does not mean that they will vote for McCain (or not vote at all) in the GE.

Odds are, most (but not all) of Hillary's voters in those states will vote for whoever the Dem candidate is.

Do you really think Obama couldn't win blue states such as NY and CA? where does such thinking come from?

[stray cat]

17. Isn't he not ignoring the states in the next primary votes.....

Once again, only some states count according to Hillary

[TexasLady]

19. Why is Hillary's campaign people telling Obama how to run his?

BUTT OUT already!~

[truebrit71]

22. Because they haven't got a clue how to run theirs anywhere but into the ground....

..

[EFerrari]

23. More manipulative bullshit. Thanks, Hil!

[BootinUp]

25. lol, Game On! nt

[mudesi]

28. I guess Pennsylvania counts! (nm)

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

29. Hasn't he got more PA campaign stops planned?

And for a longer time?

[Coexist]

31. said Clinton, "I have DECREED Pennsylvania to be the most important state, therefor Senator Obama

MUST treat it as the most important primary in the Union, or I will be forced to lop off his head!"

[Danger Mouse]

32. She's so full of it...yet again...

you spin me right round...

[DrFunkenstein]

33. Desperation Makes For Strange Argumentation

ONLY the states that Clinton won are the ones that are going to matter. And although they were all close contests, they wouldn't possibly turn for Obama in the GE (even though his support builds as voters get to know him better, while hers consistently diminishes).

[housewolf]

37. What? Calif won't "turn" for Obama?

Or NY? Or MA?

Where DOES this thinking come from???

There is no more a guarantee that Clinton would win Ohio in the GE than Obama. The odds are that most (but not all) of Clinton's voters in Ohio (except for the Repub faux-Dem-voters) will vote for whoever the Dem candidate is rather than vote for McCain when it comes right down to it.

[tridim]

36. Please make it stop.

This is exactly why the party elders need to start having frank discussions with Hillary's camp, NOW.

[thoughtcrime1984]

38. How is lowering expectations different than what Hil has done in

30+ states? Hey Hillary campaign, STFU! Obama will be there for the next 6 weeks, campaigning his ass off, just like he does everywhere else. God, what a bunch of disingenuous assholes...........

[anonymous171]

40. lol Obama isn't lettng Clinton's campaign play the media.

He needs to stay on message and not be reactionary for the next 6 weeks.