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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 07:09 PM
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Poll question: How much do you want * out?
This is real simple. Just choose where you're at on a scale of 1 to 10.
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laruemtt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 07:10 PM
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1. i want - no, i need it
more than i need oxygen - no hyperbole either!
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 07:23 PM
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3. Nothing is more important. I don't think decent life, as we know it,
will be possible if he gets re-Selected.
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corporatewhore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 07:11 PM
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2. i want bush and his policies even if they have a better face out
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punpirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 07:27 PM
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4. I want him out so badly...
... my teeth ache....
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 07:28 PM
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5. I already do work on this night and day!
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 07:54 PM
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6. Well, I'll toast to that!! Thanks benburch!!!!!
:toast:
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 07:56 PM
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7. Removing Bush is meaningless without removing the sick neocon fascism
There is no such thing as "progressive" PNAC. No matter what Will Shitbag Marshall tells you.
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 09:19 PM
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11. Ok, time for you to prove this claim.
Have Kerry and/or his advisers put in writing a desire to invade Syria and Iran?

If Kerry is PNAC, why does he speak of turning over the control of policy and contracts in Iraq to the UN?

I'm sorry, but while I disagree with Kerry on some matter so foreign policy, I don't see anything to justify his being PNAC-like. Feel free to point me to the quotes and statements that back up your claim, because if you speak the truth, I'd like to know it before I vote in Nov.
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 10:52 PM
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14. Marshall is a PNAC signator.
You will find his name on every PNAC document since the invasion. He is also the head of the grossly misnamed "Progressive" Policy Institute, the DLC version of a "think tank". On the DLC/PPI shared website, Marshall refers to his slightly whitewashed version of PNAC as "Progressive Internationalism". Kerry uses that exact phrase on his own website, so it is clear that Marshall is writing his foreign policy, along with others who have right wing/neocon ties. Rand Beers, for example, replaced Ollie North in the Reagan administration, after North became a convicted felon and was forced to resign.

The fact that these two were so quick to condemn Howard Dean and Ted Kennedy for speaking out against Bush and the PNAC agenda is proof that their loyalties are still clearly in the neocon fascist camp.

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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 11:45 PM
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15. Thanks for replying
Edited on Thu Apr-15-04 11:45 PM by jpgray
I'll check this out tomorrow and report on what I find with some links so people can check it out for themselves. I was aware some Kerry advisers were affilliated with PPI, and I knew of course about Rand Beers, but I am not aware that either drive his stances on foreign policy. Based on his statements on de-Americanizing Iraq, it seems this is a different brand of foreign policy from that of Bush. Well, I'll find out tomorrow, I suppose.
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beyurslf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 08:59 PM
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8. I will do everything in my power to help Kerry win.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 09:09 PM
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9. Yeah!
:kick:
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britpopper Donating Member (209 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 12:45 AM
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17. Yep...
Wes Clark's Army has Bush in their sights too...
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 09:17 PM
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10. i hated him ever since he ran in the primary
against mccain and others. so while i never was a big fan of al gore or even bill bradley as i am of john kerry. there was no question i would vote for any of them and would work just as hard as i would for candidates i love (like senator kerry) to help get rid of bush. and i would have done the same this year even if my candidate kerry had lost the primary.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 09:21 PM
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12. I really do love Kerry.
I believe he'll be an absolutely awesome, one of a kind, President! :loveya: John Kerry!
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 01:06 AM
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19. I personally think we are lucky to have Kerry
people say hes like Bush but seriously read what hes saying. I want lower college tuitions, I want a safe environment, I want a good justice system. Kerry believes in most of what I believe, Ive taken the tests and at the most idealistic I get, I generally have Kerry in third place following Kucinich and Sharpton. His rhetoric may confuse some but his actual policies are quite liberal. Personally he votes with Kennedy a lot, a man many of us respect, I think we need to realize that his colluege, Mr. Kerry is like him a lot, he may be shy in showing it but he is.
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sleepyhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 10:18 PM
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13. who in the world voted 1?????????
eom
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-04 06:31 AM
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16. There are 3 now!
Makes ya wonder! :shrug:
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 12:46 AM
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18. Troublemakers!
Erm I mean freepers.
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Piperay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 03:50 AM
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20. It's freeper trolls...
they masquerade as DUers till they can no longer contain themselves and end up spewing their usual stupidity and then get tombstoned. I guess they have nothing better to do with their time...whatever. :shrug:
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 02:36 PM
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21. More than words can express...
if you know what I mean :)
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