Could Bush be Deposed by the Repubs?

[liberalpragmatist]

This would be a stretch. I don't think this is a likely occurrence. But events have a momentum of their own. It's extraordinarily hard to predict the outcome of any situation, and mroe than often people are caught with egg on their face, especially when they try to say that things will remain stable. That's what happened with Vietnam, and nobody could have predicted that LBJ would step down or the political turmoil that would have erupted.

We are only in April. We face a large uprising in Iraq. Is it so far-fetched to ask that Iraq may be in full-scale revolt by summer? Is it so unbelievable that we could be seeing the US military death rate rise dramatically? Certainly, it's possible that after some fighting, the uprising is put down and Iraq remains volatile but not a VC-type situation. But it is entirely possible that such an event could occur.

Were that to happen, what would be the ramifications? If hundreds upon hundreds of US soldiers are dying, and Dubya's popularity is dropping like a stone in water, is it so inconceivable that the Repubs would dump Bush at the convention? Perhaps replace him with either Giuliani or Frist?

My guess is that this would result in a major Democratic victory. Though perhaps not. If the new Republican nominee repudiates the Bushes and is a forceful candidate, the race could be competitive. But I still think it would Kerry's win. What do you all think?

NOTE: In no way do I want the above situation to happen. It's an odd ambivalence for the Bush-hater. I confess to sometimes feeling self-righteous when hearing bad news in Iraq. It just confirms what I've always thought. But that still doesn't mean that I objectively *want* any of this to happen. The lives of thousands of people are worth more to me than a Kerry victory. I don't want to see him win b/c thousands are dead. I'm just stating what I think would happen if Bush would have to lose the nomination.

[Prodemsouth]

1. Giuliani, if anybody, Frist does not have the national appeal. He would

just basically appeal to Bush's base. I believe Cheney would take the fall and Giuliani would be the VP. Giuliani cleans up the 9-11 stuff, both Republicans and Dems tip their hat to him. Before you folks start about the Religious right having problems with him - Pat Robertson sold them Arnold in CA, plus Giuliani has done things they have cheered for they will tell about his standing up to the arts community- controversial art and Cleaning up times square. Arnold was a much harder sell to Religious right voters than Giuliani ever would be. I think the more likely scenario is Giuliani on the ticket, but Bush still at the top.

[NNadir]

2. The war will be the undoing of Bush.

I'm doubtful that the Republicans will offer a coup de grace by nominating someone esle though. Whatever they do however, they are in a spiral that they are in no way competant enough to pull out of.

The real issue has been that the absurdities of neocon ideology have finally come home to roost. Many of us fought hard against neocon ideology, agitated against it, protested against it, but we were not listened to.

I'm afraid the horrible events you describe, the wholesale slaughter in Iraq is almost inevitable. Indeed it may well become intolerable well before summer. Nobody is wishing for it, but we cannot hard enough against it happening to actually stop it.

[w4rma]

4. Hopefully the whole Republican Party leadership will be undone, also.

These wackos need to be kicked out of power and shamed badly enough that they force themselves to live in reality.

[patricia92243]

3. After Bush "turns over their government" to them, we will never hear about

Iraq again - in the newspapers or on TV.