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hiaasenrocks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 09:01 PM
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Not trying to start a Gore rumor thread again, but can anyone explain
why Gore was in Charleston, S.C. today meeting with Rep. Jim Clyburn?

:shrug:

I saw them this morning, at a restaurant on Sullivan's Island (a few miles from Charleston) having breakfast. There was no huge fuss around them, but people were greeting him politely.

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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 09:04 PM
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1. Did you wave hello in passing?
I know it's rude to interrupt or ask for an autograph - but I would have had to at least send him a smile.

As for the meeting... Old friend? Green Initiative?
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hiaasenrocks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 09:06 PM
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3. No.
I would have had to go out of my way to get to their table and I didn't want to do that. Not just because it would have been out of my way, but it would have been obvious and I'm kind of shy as it is. :)

Your theory about the meeting could be true. I've got mine but I want to hear others.

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hueyshort Donating Member (293 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 09:12 PM
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HRC will be a better Prez than Gore
and 6 months ago I was begging Gore to run. HRC was my last choice.
Her debate performances have me convinced she is going to be even better than Bubba.
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hiaasenrocks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 09:17 PM
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Well, OK. (And whoever posted below this, #16, you're on ignore so I don't know what you said)
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 12:45 AM
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35. sorry I can't help you for the same reason
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BeatleBoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 09:14 PM
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16. You shy?
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 09:05 PM
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2. Wow. Nice. Can you imagine what THAT conversation must have gone like? You
know the topic came up :-)

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hiaasenrocks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 09:07 PM
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5. I can't imagine they didn't discuss it...in some form, for whatever reason/goal.
Hmmmm.

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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 09:07 PM
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4. Party Elders trying to figure out how to end this.
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hiaasenrocks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 09:08 PM
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7. Could very well be the case.
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 09:16 PM
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20. I agree. And they are both highly esteemed in the party.
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O.M.B.inOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 09:17 PM
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22. So hard to end it without creating wounded feelings and lost votes.
I'd love to see Obama and Clinton agree to the judgment of a group like Gore, Clybern... add Jimmy Carter.... Mario Cuomo .... and throw in Judge Judy to keep things moving!
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 12:47 AM
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37. In all seriousness I say that they flip a coin
Have both Hillary and Barack come into the room, Hillary is heads Barack is tails, and either Al Gore or Howard Dean flips a coin. They both agree to come out of the room supporting whoever wins the coin toss.

IMO both of them have very good claims to why they should be the nominee and the loser is going to be bitter of Gore, Cuomo, Carter, Clyburn, etc. picks one over the other. I say that we tell them both that they are both equally qualified to be the nominee and both have equally good cases as to why they should be the nominee and therefore the only way to do this fairly is by arbitrary means.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 09:07 PM
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6. I have a theory, but first a question
What is Clyburn's super delegate status, meaning is he pledged to either candidate yet?
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 09:09 PM
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8. He is unpledged and will remain that way.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 09:09 PM
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9. Nope, he has not.
Gore and he are trying to figure out how can Hillary win a general election after Black folks get pissed when she tries to steal the nomination from Obama...and stay home instead of voting for her.

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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 09:15 PM
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Then my theory would have to be
The Party is lining up SD's behind the scenes to make a stand to pressure Clinton to cease her dirty campaign.

That or actually to end the race.

But Im thinking they would rather let this play out to the convention and they want to end the divisive campaign Hillary is waging and force her to back off on throwing mud.

(I would prefer they just obtain a mass SD move towards our front runner to end it now, but Im not sure the Party has the required attachments to do that.)

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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 09:15 PM
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19. If Gore liked Hillary he would have endorsed her.
The fact that he hasn't speaks volumes.
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AlGore-08.com Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 09:19 PM
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23. He hasn't endorsed Obama either, he's been completely neutral
All through the primary.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 12:58 AM
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39. True, but he was Bill Clinton's VP.
I think that his neutral stance speaks volumes.
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hiaasenrocks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 09:19 PM
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25. I'm not so sure about that.
He has more power staying neutral at this point, and likely in the near future.

Had he endorsed anyone, he'd be nothing more than another surrogate. They're a dime a dozen.

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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 12:59 AM
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40. I don't think he believed the election would come to this? But, I agree he's
got more "power" because he did not endorse.
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hiaasenrocks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 09:09 PM
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10. Honestly, I don't know. There was a lot of local coverage here when
we had our primary back in January and I SEEM to remember him staying neutral. However, he did speak out somewhat about the alleged race-baiting comments from Bill Clinton.

As far as I know (and again, I could be wrong) he has not pledged to either candidate.

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kevin881 Donating Member (429 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 09:12 PM
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12. Is he a superdelegate?
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AlGore-08.com Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 09:14 PM
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18. Gore, yes he is. He's a former VP, Senator and Congressman
Gore is probably the most "super" of the super delegates, due to his positive standing with the majority of grassroots Dems.
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kevin881 Donating Member (429 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 09:19 PM
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24. Yes I know Gore is, and WHO he is. Poster was asking about Clyburn. -nt
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 12:46 AM
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36. there is a special category for Clinton Gore Carter etc
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Gore1FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 09:11 PM
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11. not a gore candidacy
but let's see....two super delegates watching their party get cannibalized with only one remaining candidate left with a chance to win....

I have a good speculation on why they were meeting....
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pbca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 09:12 PM
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13. It could just be that they were discussing the current situation
looking for solutions, getting each other's POV on it all etc.,
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AlGore-08.com Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 09:12 PM
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14. It could be a number of things
It could just be Gore hanging out with a friend or...

It could be that they're discussing some global warming legislation, or...

It could be that they're discussing FISA or some other non-global warming related bills in Congress, or...

It could be that Gore's discussing some new project nobody knows about yet but Gore...

It could be that Gore's discussing the state of the Super Delegates, since Gore is one of the most logical choices to negotiate a peace treaty between Clinton and Obama, if such a thing is necessary, or...

It could be that Gore's testing the waters to see if he could be drafted, if the convention totally deadlocks and neither Clinton nor Obama can lock up the nomination and neither is willing to concede.

I think this last is the least likely, but it is within the realm of the possible.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 09:12 PM
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15. Thanks for this report....MSM has been saying Gore could "broker" the Conventionl
to decide about "Super Delegates" and how they would vote...splitting between Hillary and Obama.

I would wish that something would happen and Gore could "come in" ...but it seems he's been chosen to be
a "Mediator?" :-( Deciding an election he was forced to stay out of. Bitter Fruit....Bitter Fruit...

:cry:
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hueyshort Donating Member (293 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 09:14 PM
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17. he should not do that
the Obama people will throw dogshit in his face if they don't get their way.
I would not like to see that happen to Al. He needs to stay neutral.
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AlGore-08.com Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 09:17 PM
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21. I think you misunderstand. Gore's expected to serve as the go-between between the camps
And facilitate any negotiations that go on between them. He's not going to personally decide who should drop out in favor of the other.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 09:27 PM
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27. I said the MSM said he would be a "possible MEDIATOR."
:cry: He SHOULD HAVE BEEN THE CANDIDATE!!!!
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MagickMuffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 09:26 PM
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26. Al is way to smart to pledge at this point
especially because Clinton people would throw dogshit in his face if they don't get their way.


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Ravy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 09:28 PM
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28. I would guess that it is to get him to join a coalition to persuade
Obama to lead an Obama/Clinton ticket.
Mentioning this always creates a lot of flack from Obama supporters, but I still think that is what the elders are trying to do.
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 09:40 PM
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29. If that is what the party elders
are thinking of doing, they are going to have to tone down the flak. This shit flying in all directions will not unify the party.
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Ravy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 09:49 PM
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30. I agree. They may approach the candidates with some sort
of deal sooner than later.

I honestly think this is what the Clinton campaign is playing for right now. I also think it is their *hope* that Obama will tell the elders to pound sand, and she thinks that might swing them to her side where she wins outright.

I think he will accept the offer to lead the ticket, but may *choose* to be VP. Being the next president will not be a bed of roses with all of the cleanup that is needed. I think a one term president is in our near future no matter who gets it.
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NoBushSpokenHere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:41 PM
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31. Why do you think a one term president is in our future? nt
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Ravy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:59 PM
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32. The economy is sick, and the medicine tastes horrible.
Democrats will hold our candidate's feet to the fire about bringing troops home, and providing health care. There will be a good number of them that will demand prosecution of the Bush regime, but the new adminstration will be up to their ass in fixing things that they consider even more major than that. We need to eliminate the Bush tax cuts to lower the deficit AND cut spending on programs that are already strapped for cash to get back on keel, but the extra revenue is being promised to provide health care.

We will likely be in a recession, with the banking crisis still looming. There will be trade deals to renegotiate, and more restrictions will lead to higher prices. The country cannot be returned to the right direction overnight, we have a political judiciary and Supreme Court that will impede progress where it can.

There will be some very tough decisions and some bitter medicine in our near future, and Bush won't do any of that before he leaves. He will throw as many roadblocks up and plunder as much as he can on the way out.

Not to be a downer, but no one, even the Democratic base, *especially* the Democratic base will turn on the administration when reality sets in.
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publicatlarge Donating Member (149 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 12:40 AM
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33. Gore/Edwards 2008
By acclamation on second balloting.

That's your experienced hope and change ticket. Why should we have to settle for anything less? Time to start the petitions circulating.

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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 12:42 AM
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34. Clyburg trying to convince Gore to be Obama's running mate?
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 12:48 AM
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38. What were they eating?
My guess they are putting together a committee to meet with prominent NY democrats like Chuck Schumer and others to get them and have an old style Soprano "sit down" with the Clintons on Wednesday.
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