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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 01:11 PM
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OBAMA DAILY NEWS Saturday March-08-2008

WELCOME TO THE OBAMA DAILY NEWS THREAD

Saturday March-08-2008


US Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama greets supporters during a rally at the University of Wyoming in Laramie, Wyoming on March 7. Democrats Hillary Clinton and Obama face off in the western state of Wyoming as the campaign took a nasty turn following the resignation of a key Obama foreign policy aide. (AFP/Emmanuel Dunand)

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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 01:14 PM
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1. No new news, he's still whooping ass in states that dont matter
but Puerto Rico, there's the new important state
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 01:16 PM
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2. The RBC Update: The Math

The RBC Update: The Math

2008.03.07 20:28:57

If Obama wins by 10-point margins in Mississippi, Wyoming,
North Carolina, South Dakota, Montana, Oregon, and Guam, splits
Indiana and Michigan, and loses by 20-point margins in
Pennsylvania, West Virginia, Kentucky, Florida, and Puerto
Rico, HRC would need almost two-thirds of the remaining
uncommitted superdelegates to deny him the nomination. Seem
likely to you? Me neither.
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 01:17 PM
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3. Opportunity knocks (Obama should speak on torture issue, Hillary ambivalent)

Opportunity knocks

Posted by Mark Kleiman March 08, 2008

Barack Obama's speech on overriding President Bush's veto of the torture bill can be a turning point in this campaign.
John McCain is for torture, as long as it's practiced by the CIA rather than the military.
Hillary Clinton, who knows as all of us do that the Bush Administration has been using waterboarding,
still isn't sure whether it's been practicing torture.

Only one candidate left in the race stands for human decency on this issue, and fortunately he's the most eloquent politician of our lifetimes. The hour is ready for the man.

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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 01:18 PM
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4. OpEdNews: Reject the DLC

OpEdNews: Reject the DLC


DLC Democratic Destruction

One candidate is a leader of the DLC. If the DLC's candidate doesn't win, the DLC will fade even further from the halls of power. So the DLC is doing everything it can to survive and hold on to power. The next major primary takes place in Pennsylvania, where a major DLC leader, Ed Rendell is Governor. It's hard to imagine the DLC candidate not winning this one. I don't mention the candidate's name because I've fought the DLC for years. It's about the DLC, for me, and it's history, its stand on NAFTA, on the war, on constitutional rights, that is significant for me.

I'd like to see the other candidate stand against the DLC and what it stands for. That would force the DLC candidate to either repudiate the DLC or be shown to be a DLC candidate, including all the sell-out positions the DLC stands for-- the reasons the Democratic congress has such low ratings.

It's really not necessary to mention any candidate names, is it?

this was from OpEdNews email newsletter.

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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 01:20 PM
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5. Superdelegates Must Prevent Hillary's Scorched Earth Path

Superdelegates WILL Decide: Will They Allow Clinton To Take The Scorched Earth Path?

By Rob Kall OpEdNews
The real Democratic primary is over. Obama won. Hillary lost.

The DNC and Dem leadership must decide-- Do nothing and allow a Clinton scorched earth attack or
cut the required delegates to win by the number of MI and FL delegates no longer counted,
in which case, Obama wins handily, exceeding the number needed to win, if even a small percentage
of remaining uncommitted superdelegates commit for him.

More at the link


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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 01:21 PM
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6. AP: Not Much About Obama at Ill. Fraud Trial

Not Much About Obama at Ill. Fraud Trial

By MIKE ROBINSON


CHICAGO (AP) Two things already are clear in the $7 million federal fraud trial of a fundraiser for some of presidential hopeful Barack Obama's earlier political campaigns.

The fraud, attempted extortion and money laundering charges against businessman Antoin "Tony" Rezko have little if anything to do with Obama. But they have a lot to do with Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich and allegations of an influence-peddling scheme within his inner circle.

Even so, as a presidential contender, Obama was guaranteed to feel the heat when a longtime friend and supporter went on trial in a political scandal.

Neither Obama nor Blagojevich are accused of wrongdoing in the trial, which began with opening statements Thursday and took a break Friday. But Obama's Democratic rival Hillary Rodham Clinton has raised questions about his long ties to Rezko, and if the Illinois senator wins the nomination Republicans are likely to do the same.

"I think the national and international press have repeatedly done a calculation that says Rezko gave to Obama, Rezko was indicted, hence Obama is implicated, and that's a false calculation," says Cindi Canary, head of the nonpartisan, foundation-funded Illinois Campaign for Political Reform.

full article at the link


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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 01:22 PM
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7. What's Hillary Hiding? .. Full Disclosure of Clinton Tax Returns and White House Papers Now!

What's Hillary Hiding? Demand Full Disclosure of Clinton Tax Returns and White House Papers Now!

by Mark C. Eades March 7, 2008


As Bill and Hillary Clinton fight to establish the White House dynasty of which they have long dreamed, they continue to block disclosure of their joint tax returns and White House papers from the first Clinton administration.

While the Clintons promise to disclose their tax returns at some indeterminate future date, they block all attempts at accessing their White House papers and claim that it is not they but others who are doing so. White House papers particularly as pertains to Hillary Clinton's role in her husband's administration are an important record of the experience she claims as a qualification for the presidency, and voters have the right to know NOW what that role entailed. Barack Obama long ago released his tax returns, and while the Obama campaign presses for the Clintons to do likewise, Obama's supporters and all other advocates of honest government should add their voices to the call for full and immediate disclosure.

On the subject of the Clintons' tax returns last month, the New York Times demanded, "Show Us the Money," arguing that "release of the tax returns should not be made conditional on winning the nomination," and observing that while Barack Obama long ago disclosed his tax returns both Hillary Clinton and John McCain have thus far refused. "The reluctance of Mrs. Clinton and Mr. McCain to reveal more about their finances ill-serves voters and the nominating process of both parties...," the Times further argues, "...It also sets a terrible precedent for future campaigns for important posts at the national and state level." Since 1984, as ABC News observed last May, only one previous major presidential candidate has likewise refused to disclose personal tax information to the public: Bill Clinton in 1992.

As long as the Clintons refuse to disclose the truth about their personal finances, we can only assume that there is something in them they don't want us to see.

more at the link



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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 01:23 PM
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8. Obama Viral Email Project

Obama Viral Email Project

- Draft 2 by Travis Stark Fri Mar 07, 2008


This is the second diary in a series that comprise the Obama Viral Email Project.
Prior diaries may be found here:

Obama Viral Email Project - Draft 1

This project grew out of a desire to do something positive for the Obama campaign, utilizing the Net roots and viral Internet marketing concepts.

Read the rest of Travis Stark's diary here


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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 01:24 PM
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9. Newsweek: Is the Media Biased.... Against Obama?

Is the Media Biased.... Against Obama?

Right now, the answer is ... sort of. March 06, 2008 Andrew Romano at Newsweek

I'm not talking about the MSM "turning" on Obama, which did happen, to some extent, in the run-up to March 4. As the New York Times reported yesterday, the Illinois senator was the subject of 69 percent of all campaign articles last week, generating more coverage--most of it negative--than any other candidate in any other week this year. But that squall has passed (despite the candidate's carping). The big problem for Obama going forward doesn't have anything to do with reporters ragging on Tony Rezko, flogging the Austan Goolsbee flap or sharpening their stories in shame after SNL mocks their presumed Obamamania. It has to do with the need for drama in the news


The media is promulgating a bunch of other Clinton narratives that just don't withstand scrutiny. Why is there pressure on Obama to show that he can win her demographic and not pressure on Clinton to show that she can win his? Why do the big states matter more than what already registers in terms of the number of delegates assigned to them (e.g. IN + NC > PA but PA is the big deal)? Why should the popular vote matter when nobody has figured out how to fairly aggregate the results from the caucus states? Why do the choices of democrats in red states not matter as much as the choices of democrats in blue states (don't red state democrats get a say in the national ticket)? etc. etc.

UPDATE, March 7: Reader maggie22 has a very smart take on this phenomenon


The narrative as I see it is that there's a near 50-50 split in demographics. Obama is winning because he has (a) more effectively translated his demographic into delegates than has Clinton and (b) because he has occasionally made some inroads into her demographic. That's what he got for campaigning hard in all the contests that came up. She's failed to exploit her advantages effectively and she hasn't even tried to go after his demographic. Her only hope is to cherry pick ways of looking at the results in a way that favors her (red states don't count, southern states don't count, etc), and persuade superdelegates and the media that she's the stronger candidate.

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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 01:25 PM
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10. Clinton revises remark on women in Miss.
I think Clinton has deliberately insulted Mississippi because 1) she knows she is going to lose this state, just like SC and
2) she did this to bait women voters around the country to vote for her in a sort of "sisterhood" of downtrodden women.


Clinton revises remark on women in Miss.

Clinton tries to backpedal from comments disparaging Mississippi on women's progress
By SARA KUGLER Associated Press Writer | AP Mar 7, 2008

Democratic presidential contender Hillary Rodham Clinton tried to backpedal Friday from comments she made in October suggesting Mississippi was a backward place for women's progress.

Speaking to radio station WJZD-FM in Gulfport, Miss., the former first lady said the comments she made about the state in the run up to the Iowa caucuses "were not exactly what I said," even though they came directly from an interview she gave to the Des Moines Register in October.

Clinton was on a campaign swing through Mississippi before Tuesday's Democratic presidential primary.

The newspaper quoted the New York senator discussing Iowa and Mississippi being the only states that have never elected a woman governor or sent a woman to Congress

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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 01:26 PM
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11. Bringing It On Herself
Rival Barack Obama has been running radio ads in Mississippi calling Clinton's comments insulting to the state.

Bringing It On Herself


The ChiTrib looks at Clinton's claims of foreign policy experience.
And the verdict is not a good one.
I refer back to my point from yesterday --
she doesn't need to be a seasoned foreign policy hand.
But she's setting herself up for a fall when she claims to be.

--Josh Marshall link


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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 01:27 PM
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12. Special interests would have to fund Florida Do-Over
Special interests would have to fund Florida Do-Over

Sen. Nelson (D-FL): Deal Could Be Reached Soon For New Florida Primary

By Eric Kleefeld - March 7, 2008

After a year of arguments, lawsuits and an unauthorized primary, a deal may finally be close at hand for a do-over primary in Florida.

The details have yet to be worked out precisely, according to Sen. Bill Nelson (D-FL), but it would involve a mail-in vote administered by the state party. "My job is clear," Nelson told Newsweek. "It's to stand up for the right of Floridians to vote as intended."

But here's the catch: The millions of dollars necessary to pay for this would have to be provided through unlimited soft-money contributions to the state party. That's right this would be a special election funded by special interests.

Meanwhile, Sen. Carl Levin (D-MI) has announced his firm opposition to a mulligan primary in his state


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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 01:27 PM
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13. Why Hillary won't release Tax Forms: Bill Clinton profits from company tied to felon, China
Why Hillary won't release Tax Forms: Bill Clinton profits from company tied to felon, China
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 01:28 PM
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14. 30 years from now you can tell your Grandchildren how you fought to the bitter end
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 01:28 PM
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15. Tom Harkin: "Bending primary rules for 2 states would be disastrous"

Posted by MadFloridian, so this is a good read
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 01:29 PM
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16. The Limbaugh Effect on Clintons Texas Win

Of the 181 voters she personally dealt with, 70 offered that they were Rush Limbaugh voters who were there to cast ballots for Clinton. Im here to vote for Hillary Clinton, I want to see the Democratic Party implode, one voter told Kreissl
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 01:30 PM
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17. Caucus Chair Uncovers Discrepancies In Texas Votes (Front paged at DU)
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 01:36 PM
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18. 60 Seats in the Senate? - It Could Happen
Barack Obama could be the first Democratic President since Lyndon Johnson with working majorities in both Houses.

Senate Democrats Hope for a Majority Not Seen in 30 Years: 60 Seats

By DAVID M. HERSZENHORN New York Times. March 7, 2008

...For Democrats hoping the November elections set off a seismic shift in Washington, the dream scenario is not just capturing the White House, but also winning a filibuster-proof majority of 60 seats in the Senate a luxury no president has enjoyed since Jimmy Carter 30 years ago.

As far-fetched as that might seem Democrats now control the Senate by a razor-thin 51 to 49, thanks only to two independents who vote with them some Democrats have started thinking aloud that such a scenario is within reach.

...Senator Barack Obama of Illinois, in particular, has shown the capacity to ignite turnout among younger voters and blacks, and Democratic strategists believe he could have longer coattails than Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York in states like Minnesota and Oregon, where Democrats hope to gain seats held by Republicans.

more at the link

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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 01:40 PM
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19. Who Will Buy Florida's Voters this Election??

Who Will Buy Florida's Voters this Election??

by Bill Burkett March 8, 2008

The art of twisting fact to gain advantage is being witnessed in the daily offensive operations of the Mrs. Clinton campaign. I'm not speaking of a concocted eleventh hour scandal regarding remarks about NAFTA, or even the current flap over comments being made about an Obama spokesman regarding Iraq and reference to Mrs. Clinton as a monster. Those are political actions based on editting and half truth meant to build a case that Obama is not trustworthy and does he even worse than "flip-flopping" ; he winks and nods.

Hopefully Democratic voters will be smart enough to examine fact versus fiction in this regard. But it did shape the outcomes on Tuesday.

Instead it was another action meant to put the Obama campaign on the defensive and shift the burden of responsibility from the Democratic Party leadership in Florida and Michigan onto Obama himself.

...Yet, the recommendation coming from the campaign was that the voters of Florida and this time, Michigan were again for sale to the highest bidder.

Who made those offers? The champions using the language of "disenfranchisement" and "good of the people" were simply Clinton partisans. So who will do the fact check?

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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 01:45 PM
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20. Europe Would Choose Obama in a Landslide
Europe Would Choose Obama in a Landslide

Europe ♥ Obama

Guy Sorman, City Journal 6 March 2008

For continental elites, the candidate exemplifies the good American.

Europes media and left-wing intelligentsia see Barack Obama as the most appealing candidate for the U.S. presidency. He exemplifies what the French leftist magazine Le Nouvel Observateur calls the America we like. Most Europeans deny that theyre anti-American; they argue instead that there are two Americasthe good and the bad. Michael Moore is a good American, honored with the Cannes film festivals highest prize in 2006 for his anti-Bush fantasy documentary Fahrenheit 9/11. Other good Americans include Robert Redford, Mia Farrow, Noam Chomsky, Barbra Streisand, and Philip Roth. Charlton Heston and Billy Graham are badas bad as McDonaldsand so, of course, are President George W. Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney.

Let us understand why, from the European perspective, Obama is good. First, he belongs to a minority. Europeans love minoritieswhen they live in the U.S. We tend not to like our own minorities, whom we willingly discriminate against on the basis of skin color or religion. Black Americans, however, are popular in Western Europe, since they play good music and revolt against the white establishment. For European leftists, whites in the U.S. are inclined to be Christian, racist, and imperialist. Whites started the war in Iraq. A white U.S. soldier is an imperialist; a black soldier is a victim, fighting in the army only because he is poor.

Not only is Obama black; he is also a pacifist, or nearly so, certainly when compared with the other presidential candidates. A pacifist U.S. leader becomes more than likable; he becomes one of us. Opposed to the war in Iraq and uninterested in confronting Iran, Obama is almost an honorary European, more civilized than the white, imperialist, trigger-happy Republicans. Obama has also been linked with Black Muslim leader Louis Farrakhan and former national security advisor Zbigniew Brzezinski, which suggests that he is not an unconditional ally of Israel. Israel is less popular than the Palestinians among the European intelligentsia, so Obama scores again.

Obama also favors universal health insurance, another Europe-like move in the right direction to free the bad Americans from their capitalist shackles. On capital punishment, a contentious issue between Europeans and Americans, Obama again strikes the right chord: he is a death-penalty abolitionist. His stance on this issue alone would make him a darling in Europe. But theres more: Obamas Christian faith seems murky. In Europe, we love secularism; at least Obama seems reserved about his faith.

more at the link


"In fact, many Europeans believe that Europe should have a say in American elections, since the president is de facto leader of the Western world. And if they did have a vote, they would choose Barack Obama in a landslide."

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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 01:59 PM
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22. We are doing our best to get him elected... unfortunately we have too many ignorant
people in this country that don't like to read.
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 01:55 PM
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21. Obama Leads Clinton in Wyoming Caucuses; 30% of Vote Counted

Obama Leads Clinton in Wyoming Caucuses; 30% of Vote Counted

Bloomberg News. By Julianna Goldman and Kristin Jensen

March 8 (Bloomberg) -- Senator Barack Obama leads in Wyoming's Democratic caucuses today, according to an unofficial count by the Associated Press.

With 30 percent of the vote counted, Obama, 46, an Illinois senator, had 58 percent compared with 40 percent for Senator Hillary Clinton of New York. The Wyoming vote is the first contest since the March 4 primaries in which Clinton, 60, revived her candidacy with wins in Rhode Island, Ohio and Texas. Wyoming has 12 pledged delegates at stake, awarded to the candidates proportionally based on the support they get in the caucuses.

Obama has 1,361 pledged delegates to the Democratic convention in August and Clinton has 1,220, according to an unofficial tally by the Associated Press. A candidate needs 2,025 to become the nominee, and neither Obama or Clinton is likely to have enough pledged delegates to secure the nomination before the Democratic convention in August.

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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 02:46 PM
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23. ONLY 1 RECOMMEND? if you like the daily news, please click
on the recommend button.

oh, and add a post or link yourself!

thanks!

:yourock:
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 04:00 PM
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24. The last lie to die
I am so sick of hearing this over and over again so please kick and r the hell out of it - thanks


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 05:34 PM
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25. Obama Wins Wyoming Caucuses - 59% to 40 %

Obama Wins Wyoming Caucuses

Latest Caucus Victory Is His Thirteenth In Battle For The Democratic Presidential NominationCASPER, Wyo., March 8, 2008

CBS/AP) Sen. Barack Obama has won the Wyoming Democratic caucuses.

Just after polls closed Saturday, Obama led Sen. Hillary Clinton, his rival for the Democratic presidential nomination, 59 percent to 40 percent. The Illinois senator had 4,459 votes to Clintons 3,081, with 22 of 23 precincts reporting. (Click here for full Wyoming results.)

CBS News estimates that Obama captured seven delegates in state. Clinton captured five.

The Wyoming contest was the latest in the candidates' close, hard-fought battle for the party's presidential nomination.

"This is one more caucus victory for Obama, whose campaign has amassed a delegate lead based partly on a strategy of focusing on events like this," said CBSNews.com Senior Political Editor Vaughn Ververs. "This win, coupled with a likely victory in the Mississippi primary on Tuesday, could wipe out Clinton's gains from last week. But her campaign will go on, focused on Pennsylvania's April 22nd contest."
more at the link

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catgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 08:35 PM
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30. The final tally: Obama 61% Clinton 38%

A landslide!
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 06:07 PM
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26. Obama's Run Against McCain Begins Today

Obama's Run Against McCain Begins Today

David Bromwich HuffPo Sat Mar 8

Last week saw an event in our politics so giddy that we have yet to absorb its implications. Hillary Clinton, flush from her "comeback" in Ohio, told reporters that John McCain inspired her confidence on foreign policy; McCain had certainly "crossed the commander-in-chief threshold." She herself had crossed it, too, she said; but as for Barack Obama, "you'll have to ask Senator Obama" whether he is really prepared to serve as commander-in-chief.

Puzzling: a contender for the Democratic nomination, praising the Republican nominee as preferable to her Democratic rival. It was a rash act and probably unprecedented. Joe Lieberman did something like it, but only after he declared himself an "independent."

Nor was Senator Clinton finished. In the same session with reporters, she glowed at the thought of herself and John McCain together. "Both of us will be on that stage having crossed that threshold," she said. And again: "I think you'll be able to imagine many things Senator McCain will be able to say. He's never been president, but he will put forth his lifetime of experience. I will put forth my lifetime of experience. Senator Obama will put forth a speech made in 2002."

...Hillary Clinton is the social-democratic candidate of the war establishment.
John McCain is the right-wing candidate of the war establishment. Both Clinton and McCain know this. They look on each other kindly, and share a disdain that borders on contempt for Barack Obama.

...These two contests are really one contest. It is Senator Clinton who has spent the past week tying herself to John McCain as fast as McCain could tie himself to the purse and leading-strings of George W. Bush. They have thus simplified Obama's task. The most direct and appropriate way for Obama now to run against Hillary Clinton is to run against John McCain.

more at the link

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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 07:00 PM
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27. THE MATH - March 8 - After Wyoming
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 07:02 PM
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28. WHY only 4 Recommends? not enough pixie dust and glitter??
Sorry I started the Daily News late today. Slept in, ok?

Won't happen again.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 11:35 PM
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34. well I have to get a new computer
only lets me rec a thread once lol
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 07:05 PM
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29. Deleted message
Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
catgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 08:49 PM
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31. Alerted for spamming
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:03 PM
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32. LOL Catgirl pounces and
ouch!

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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 11:36 PM
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35. wow and i missed it - anyone i might know?
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 11:38 PM
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36. Somebody should have a party for all of the Cliinton supporters who have crossed the aisle
or atleast gone neutral.

Pretty soon it will be just lil ol Crazy Hermmie by himself over there.

I sense the hammering away on the numbers has had an effect and the tone with most of the Clinton supporters is a lot more resigned

or even fatalistic. One more crazy comment and I think will get a bunch more.

Monday should be a big day for super delegates.

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catgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 09:21 AM
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39. Oh, very cool.

I can't remember who it was. A pest, anyway. :)
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 11:33 PM
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33. latest numbers on delegates
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 12:38 AM
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37. Help, need someone to start the Daily Obama News for Sunday March 9
I posted too many threads in a certain amount of time, and can't post the
Daily news until: Sun Mar 09th 2008, 03:11 PM
(DU has a funny way of timing this).

Be sure to post a link on this thread to tell us where to find the new one, ok?

Subject: OBAMA DAILY NEWS Sunday March-09-2008

It doesn't have to be fancy. We just need someone to start the thread.


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galaxy21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 09:16 AM
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38. The Clintons, a horror film that never ends
Its alive! We thought it might be over but some of us never dared fully believe it. Last week was like one of those moments in a horror movie when the worst terror recedes, the screen goes blank and then reopens on green fields or a lovers tender embrace. Drained but still naive audiences breathe a collective sigh of relief. The plot twists have all been resolved; the threat is gone; the quiet spreads. And then . . .

Put your own movie analogy in here. Glenn Close in the bathtub in Fatal Attraction whoosh! shes back at your throat! has often occurred to me when covering the Clintons these many years. The Oscars host Jon Stewart compares them to a Terminator: the kind that is splattered into a million tiny droplets of vaporised metal . . . only to pool together spontaneously and charge back at you unfazed.

The Clintons have always had a touch of the zombies about them: unkillable, they move relentlessly forward, propelled by a bloodlust for Republicans or uppity Democrats who dare to question their supremacy. You cant escape; you cant hide; and you cant win. And these days, in the kinetic pace of the YouTube campaign, they are like the new 28 Days Later zombies. They come at you really quickly, like bats out of hell. Or Ohio, anyway.

Now all this may seem a little melodramatic. Perhaps it is. Objectively, an accomplished senator won a couple of races one by a mere 3% against another senator in a presidential campaign. One senator is still mathematically unbeatable. But that will never capture the emotional toll that the Clintons continue to take on some of us. Im not kidding. I woke up in a cold sweat early last Wednesday. There have been moments this past week when I have felt physically ill at the thought of that pair returning to power.

Why? I have had to write several columns in this space over the years acknowledging that the substantive legacy of the Clinton administration (with a lot of assist from Newt Gingrich) was a perfectly respectable one: welfare reform, fiscal sanity, prudent foreign policy, leaner government. But remembering the day-to-day psychodramas of those years still floods my frontal cortex with waves of loathing and anxiety. The further away you are from them, the easier it is to think theyre fine. Up close they are an intolerable, endless, soul-sapping soap opera.

The media are marvelling at the Clintons several near-death political experiences in this campaign. Hasnt it occurred to them how creepily familiar all this is? The Clintons live off psychodrama. They both love to push themselves to the brink of catastrophe and then accomplish the last-minute, nail-biting self-rescue. Before too long the entire story becomes about them, their ability to triumph through crisis, even though the crises are so often manufactured by themselves. That is what last week brought back for me. The 1990s with a war on.

Remember: Bill Clinton could have easily settled the Paula Jones lawsuit years before he put the entire country through the wringer (Jones sued Clinton for sexual harassment alleged to have occurred while he was governor of Arkansas).

Recall: Hillary Clinton could have killed what turned out to be the White-water nonstory at the very outset by disclosing everything she could (the scandal centred on a controversial Arkansas property deal).

Consider: the Clintons could have prepared for primaries and caucuses after February 5 so-called Super Tuesday, when 24 states held their presidential nomination vote as any careful candidate would. They chose not to do any of these things. Not because they are incompetent. But because they live to risk.

Politics is also their life. They know nothing else. Most halfway normal people in politics could at some point walk away. Reagan seemed happy to. Not the Clintons. In the words of the American-based British writer Christo-pher Hitchens, these are the kind of people who never want the meeting to end. Hillary Clinton will never concede the race so long as there is even the faintest chance that she can somehow win.

They endure all sorts of humiliation remember the taped Clinton deposition in the Ken Starr investigation (in which Clinton admitted to the inquiry headed by the far-right prosecutor that he had had an improper physical relationship with Monica Lewinsky)? Hillarys dismissal of the Lewinsky matter as an invention of the right-wing conspiracy? because they know no other way to live. They have been thinking of this moment since they were in college and being a senator or an ex-president or having two terms in the White House are not sufficient to satiate their sense of entitlement. Even if they have to put their own party through a divisive, bitter, possibly fatal death match, they will never give up. Their country, their party . . . none of this matters compared with them.

The patterns are staggeringly unaltered. Last Thursday The Washing-ton Post ran an article reporting on the almost comic divisions within the Clinton camp: how chaotic the planning had been, how much chief pollster Mark Penn hated all the other advisers, how even in the wake of a sudden victory most of the Clintonites were eager to score rancid points off each other.

The secrecy and paranoia endure too. Releasing tax returns is routine for a presidential candidate. Barack Obama did it some time back. The Clintons still havent and say they wont for more than another month. Why? They have no explanation. They seem affronted by the question.

When you look at the electoral map if the Clintons run again, you also see a reversion to the old patterns of the 1990s the patterns that cynical political strategists such as Karl Rove and Dick Morris have been exploiting for two decades. The country scrambled by the post-baby-boomer pragmatism of Obama snaps back into classic red-blue mode, with the blue areas denoting Democratic-leaning states around the edge and true red Republican states in the heartlands.

The Clintons are comfortable with this polarisation. They need it. Even when running against a fellow Democrat, they instinctively reach for it. Last week, in response to the Obama camps request that they release their tax returns, Clintons spokesman called Obama a new Ken Starr. For the Clintons, all Democrats who oppose them are . . . Republicans. And all Republicans are evil.

And evil means that anything the Clintons do in self-defence is excusable even playing the race card, and the Muslim card, and the gender card, and every sleazy gambit that the politics of fear can come up with. This is how they have arrested the Obama juggernaut. Its the only game they know how to play.

One is reminded of the words of Bob Dylan: And here I sit so patiently / Waiting to find out what price / You have to pay to get out of / Going through all these things twice.

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catgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 09:28 AM
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40. WYVBC, I started the thread

Can you add a post making it look festive?


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