Olberman is DEAD to me now!

[bvar22]

I used to really respect Keith, and watched his show regularly.
He was intelligent and entertaining. He provided a anti-establishment perspective I could not find anywhere else on TV.
But over the last couple of months, his TRUE self has been revealed....

Olberman is a sexist Hillary Hater.
He kept his Hillary Hatred and Sexism hidden for years just so he could attack Hillary!!!!
He keeps going ON and ON about the mathematical impossibility of Hillary winning the nomination (like anyone cares about MATH), and says Hillary is just hurting the Democratic Party by attacking the inevitable nominee.

Richard Wolf and Dana Millbank?.....ALL sexist Hillary Haters!!!
I used to think they were smart, but now it is clear that they are just stupid sexists!
Just because Hillary got a little confused about NAFTA is NO REASON to criticize her or laugh about her!

I now REFUSE to watch Countdown and am writing the bosses at MSNBC demanding that it taken OFF the AIR.



Also DEAD to me NOW:

*Randi Rhodes...DEAD to me NOW.
I used to like her outspoken, irreverent commentary and the way she handled Freepers.
She used to be a REAL Democrat and helped the Democratic Party always....but she too has turned into a sexist Hillary Hater. Just because Obama WILL go to the convention with the MAJORITY of pledged delegates, she thinks it is OK to criticize Hillary for supporting the Republican candidate!!!!


Ed Schultz....DEAD to me now.
I used to really like Ed Schultz. He was a moderate, "Centrist" Democrat who seemed to be about pulling the Party together.....but he is really just a sexist NeoCon operative who was planted years ago so that he could stop Hillary from getting the Presidency she deserves!

Rachael Maddow....DEAD to me now.
It was really disappointing to find out that Rachael was really just another sexist Hillary Hater. She seemed so intelligent and strong willed..... You would think that Rachael would support the First Woman President...but NO... her obvious anti-Hillary sexist bigotry has floated to the top. She was really clever and initially showed a phony pro-Hillary bias. She's another one who keeps insisting on doing the Math!

Thom Hartmann....is DEAD to me now.
I cannot listen to someone who spews vile sexist Hillary Hatred. He thinks HISTORY and FACTS matter, and that it is NOT a good thing to endorse the Republican nominee!
STFU Thom Hartmann!

Stephanie Miller....is dead to me now!
ANOTHER turncoat female who obviously has "ISSUES".
The PROOF that she has issues is that she has criticized Hillary for hurting the Democratic Party and cannot see the blinding TRUTH that DEAN is a MONSTER and should change the rules so that Hillary can have the delegates that SHE IS ENTITLED TO!
NO MORE Stephanie Miller for ME!




Some Democrats I used to really like have exposed themselves to be Right Wing sexist Republican Operatives. I NO LONGER have ANY respect for:

*Ted Kennedy

*John Kerry :puke:

*Russ Feingold (bigoted Hillary Hater)

*Tom Daschle

*Dennis Kucinich



I WILL listen ONLY to Rush Limbaugh!
Rush Limbaugh has showed that he is open minded.
I used to think that Rush was a sexist and a bigot, but I NOW see that I was wrong.
He had Bill Clinton <swoon> on his show to campaign for Hillary last week. Rush has also been telling everyone to Vote for Hillary in the Primaries.
I NOW like Rush Limbaugh, and will be listening to his show daily to get the REAL truth!

Hillary has also said that FOX News is good, and is willing to appear on Fox News, so they must be OK too.


Go Hillary!!!!

Hillary CAN still WIN
if nobody counts the delegates!

[Drunken Irishman]

1. You forgot Howard Dean!

[bvar22]

22. Oh Yes....The Good Doctor....

I used to really like him. I thought that the 50State strategy was a brilliant way to re-energize a Democratic Party that was withering on the vine....but I was wrong.

Dean is just another Hillary Hater who refuses to break the rules so that Hillary can get the special treatment she deserves.

Howard Dean is now dead to me too.

Gotta go catch the Limbaugh Show.
Bill<swoon> might be on again!

[Just-plain-Kathy]

88. All these "respected" people hate Hillary, so you dump them and keep Hillary?

I find that hard to understand.

edit to add ...:sarcasm:

[rodeodance]

166. I am with the OP .

[melody]

215. Well, at least you didn't post a bromide n/t

[Nostradammit]

254. LMAO!!!

'zactly!

[hueyshort]

285. How many writers of these crap threads are PAID by Mr. Obama

from his millions?

[Tarheel_Dem]

287. why can't Hillary afford it? More whining from Clintonites

:cry:

[Hersheygirl]

355. Totally agree

Maybe we could offer them some cheese to go with that "whine."

[No Blood for Hubris]

312. Or are being paid by Karl Rove?

Or -- both?

[Barrymores Ghost]

290. Proving once again that satire is lost on the tragically shallow. n/t

[No Blood for Hubris]

313. Not at all. What seems to be satire turns out to be true --

Keith Olbermann and many others have in fact been abandoned due to their irrational Hillary-hatred. And why not.

[Greyskye]

380. We know.

Really. Trust us on this, we know.

[hueyshort]

376. Like a Dead Fish, this dumb thread keeps floating back

[Kurovski]

399. Kick. (nt)

[papau]

182. Like liars much? (NAFTA meeting denied -social programs don't have cost since won't pass -Iraq

promise is not a promise - just the "best case" and we may be there a hundred years - or was that last phrase McCain - it is so hard to separate McCain and Obama)

Well enjoy todays Obama win in some red state (Wyoming this time I believe) that will never be blue - a win based on a caucus system that is not secret with near zero non AA working man democratic vote but is instead party bosses and the Starbucks and college crowd - love how the Saturday day shift got the shaft.

Obama sure is good in states we have no chance of winning - or at least that seems the majority of his wins.

And oh yes - many of those names listed by the OP are indeed afraid of leadership by women - sad isn't it sad? But then there is a reason women got the vote 50 years after the black man did.

[FrenchieCat]

314. I know that you can't be serious about who got the vote first?

Black people didn't get the vote till 1965 in too many places.

And Black men where hung from trees for even looking at a white woman.

White woman = 51% of the population

Black folks = 13% of the population.

And finally, having a majority congress will help our new President....and only Obama can do that all over the United States.

in reference to the popular vote in large states, White women will vote for Obama over McCain. They don't want to lose their Reproductive rights.

Here, do your math...and I hope you are not stating that those who voted for Hillary did so because the were racists.

The big-state myth debunked:

State................Obama..............Clinton

California...........2,126,000..........2,553,000

Texas ..............1,358,000..........1,459,000

New York.............698,000..........1,003,000

Illinois...............1,302,000............662,000

Ohio...................982,000..........1,212,000

Georgia...............704,000.............330,000

New Jersey..........492,000.............603,000

Virginia...............627,000.............350,000

Washington.........354,000.............316,000


Total................8,643,000 ........8,487,000

Obama ahead in the big states by more than 150,000 votes

more

[madfloridian]

322. Would you believe I just read this thread?

I was really avoiding it, but it is just great. Well done.

:hi:

[ihavenobias]

113. Yes! And The Young Turks/Cenk Uygur... (REC)

God knows The Young Turks have had their share of hatred since Cenk has officially come out for Obama after months of being undecided.

It's irrelevant how much he's defended her in the past: http://youtube.com/watch?v=vmM2j8P55SA&feature=related

Clearly he just hates Hillary, and as you say, is a sexist. He was just *pretending* to defend her before so that he could come out more strongly against her later.

[Cha]

147. Hey! ihavenobias.. Cenk came out for

Obama..that's wonderful. The last video I saw they were discussing the dlc in DC aspect of hilary elbowing her way in..didn't want it.

Thanks for the vid..I'll watch after I get relaxed from coming home in the cold rain from work.

:yourock: B-)

[ihavenobias]

172. A couple of things, on TYT and Maddow

1)-That video clip I posted is older, but it perfectly illustrates that Cenk gave Hillary a very fair chance and defended her against *BS* attacks. Speaking of BS attacks, there are a few people who are STRONGLY anti-Obama on the message boards at www.theyoungturks.com who are being obnoxious. Not because they dislike Obama (that's not obnoxious, that's just personal opinion), but because they almost never say who they support instead and why. They just rip Obama and make the same tired arguments over and over again. But I think I've done a good job of clobbering them so that's that. ;)

2)-Do you listen to Rachel Maddow? I'm listening to the podcast of yesterday's show and I can't see how she comes across as pro-Obama. If anything, I think she's coming down too hard on the Obama campaign because she keeps saying that *both* Hillary and Obama need to stop being negative, despite the fact that objectively speaking, Hillary has CLEARLY gone more negative in the last 2 weeks, and it's not even close.

[Cha]

185. I don't listen to anything like that

..just some of the video clips from DU. I'm one of the few different ones who don't do radio.. but anyone who says things like they "both need to stop going negative or bickering" isn't paying attention or have an agenda.

I spent some time at work in the back with a couple of hilary supporters but the reason we could even talk was they thought hilary was going too negative. She said there was LTTE this morning in our small newspaper that said they should stop attacking each other and attack mccain. I said.."tell that to hilary".

I swear ..people get so caught up in sound bites they don't even know they don't think for themselves. :(

Obama's just answering hilary's smears but I'm betting he and his campaign will come up with something to stop this destructive cycle of hilary's.

Do you happen to have the video of Cenk endorsing Obama? :)

[ihavenobias]

192. The pro-Obama arguments he presents in this clip here deserve their own thread

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PffjLHMf0_k&feature=user

I'm busy, but maybe someone else will consolidate his already digestible arguments. I think they're great. Some of them are obvious, but some of them might be less so to many people.

[thepurpose]

2. LOL!That was pretty funny.

[Kittycat]

3. How do you nominate for a DUZY? Because this deserves one

:rofl:

[Colobo]

37. Greatest post ever!

[calimary]

73. Sending a PM to JeffR helps.

In case he hasn' t already seen it.

[dailykoff]

4. bwahaha

thanks for a Saturday morning laff! :rofl:

[babylonsister]

5. Was the big dawg 'really' on his show last week?

:wow:

[bicentennial_baby]

35. Ayup

x(

[blm]

60. I didn't know that - now you KNOW the 90s attacks on Bill were dog and pony show to coverup

for the protection Clinton was giving BushInc and the powerful elite who also pay Rush's salary.

[Why Syzygy]

168. Tell me more about the cover up?

You have become one of my favorite posters. Thank you.

[blm]

188. BCCI matters involved GHWBush, Jackson Stephens, Dubai and Saudi royals, Bin Ladens,

Marc Rich, AQ Khan....

BCCI was the biggest terrorist bank and it was Jackson Stephens who brought BCCI into this country. Stephens also bankrolled and groomed Clintons political career in Arkansas AND underwrote his 92 primary campaign when Bushies exepected to be impeached after the release of the BCCI report scheduled for Dec 1992.

GHWBush ran the worst campaign in history, BCCI matters were deep-sixed throughout the 90s. Bill doesn't even mention BCCI one time in his book.

Rose Law Firm's biggest client was Jackson Stephens. Whitewater was the cover for Bushies to get in there and scrub it clean for Stephens and GHWBush's BCCI dealings, which also involved Dubai and Saudi royals and dealings for WalMart with Chinese industrialists and financiers.

Since so many lawyers at Rose worked on these dealings over the years, it really would take a long time to pore through every file.

Dog and pony show - for both bases. Keep the country divided and play them like Ohio State-Michigan football games. Perception of rivalry trumps accountability.

[Why Syzygy]

191. Now even the facade of rivalary is gone.

On to the next show I suppose.

[babylonsister]

62. Wow. So cheezy, so low. nt

[JVS]

96. WHAT?

Do you have a link to a transcript or recording or even a news article about this? I just have to know what those two talked about!

[bicentennial_baby]

109. It was on the Limbaugh show, with Mark Davis filling in for Limbaugh

http://www.wbap.com/Article.asp?id=606119&spid=6051

Link to the audio there.

:shrug:

[MonkeyFunk]

354. No

he didn't.

Clinton didn't do the Rush Limbaugh show. You think it would've snuck by unnoticed here?

He did another radio host's show - a local Texas guy - who later substituted for Rush and evidently played the interview.

[Cha]

149. I believed it right when I read it..bil

and hil know who their friends are. You know..FOFB.

[hisownpetard]

6. K&R. This is Hillary-ous!

:rofl: :popcorn: :applause:

[Cha]

150. It's Hyper Hilaryous..

:popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:

[hisownpetard]

306. Hyper Hillary-ous with a side order of Hot Sauce!

[Windy]

7. Read again what you wrote and who you are complaining about.

maybe there is something wrong with YOUR reasoning!

Any well read, intelligent democrat who puts the interests of their country first and foremost would be appalled by HRC's tactics.

[babylonsister]

23. It's tongue in cheek sarcasm to the nth.

:hi:

[ekwhite]

28. Humor challenged much?

:wtf:

[Cha]

153. Be nice ..

to Windy..it's been a long hard 8 years. :)

[dapper]

375. I have to admit.....

When i first read the op, I was like WTF?!!?

Good thing I read more into the responses before saying anything... :-)

Dap

[jgraz]

83. OK, who had 3 minutes in the "Obama Supporter Takes it Seriesly" pool?

[Kurovski]

206. I don't know what anyone's talking about anymore.

But it sure is fun!

[11 Bravo]

262. The early line was 5 minutes and I took the "under". Does that count?

[taterguy]

8. I'm feeling left out, I didn't make your list

:wtf:

[Debi]

43. Oooooh, yeah - I want on the 'Dead to me' list too! n/t

[taterguy]

You are dead to me

Happy?

[Debi]

75. As long as I'm only dead to you - but not on ignore!

:woohoo:

[taterguy]

385. No one's on my Ignore list

Even if I vehemently disagree with someone I never completely tune them out.

I just choose to skim their posts or not read threads started by them.

Except for that asshole JVS.

[Hepburn]

9. Out-fucking-standing! K&R!

Oh, man...you soooooooooo captured the true essence of the fantic Hillbots!

:applause:

[Windy]

11. They are a scary lot. Reminds me of rabid bush supporters! And look where they got us! n/t

[Hepburn]

68. Yes....

....snatching defeat from the jaws of victory!

Thank you, Hillbots!

[TahitiNut]

42. Sadly, even the parody is far to close to the reality.

We're living in SURREAL times. The extemism of the RightWingers - even the RightWingers of the partisan 'left' - is so decoupled from reason and balance that we're seeing behavior that's beyond cartoonish.

[Hepburn]

70. Last straw.....

...supporing McCain over Obama. Disgusting....:puke:

[TahitiNut]

99. The mask came off and the scorched-earth nihilism was exposed.

The clear willingness to be destructive rather than constructive - all in the name of self-serving goals - betrays the very essence of what's deeply wrong with neoconservatism, whether it call itself "Democrat" or "Republican."

Such a stance is madness - akin to a Bunny Boiler willing to inflict terror in the absence of compliance with a sense of entitlement.

[Don Davis]

10. Did you ever consider ...

Did you ever consider the possibility that all of these progressives you cite are not sexist, but horrified at the Hillary's tactics, hypocrisy and absolute cowardice in enabling George Bush's war? The real problem is the Hillary supporters, whose blind loyalty to her betrays the true "sexism."

[Windy]

13. Bravo!!!!!!! n/t

[cali]

18. Does the word satire mean anything to you?

The OP is a riot- and a spoof.

[mckeown1128]

51. Isn't it sad that Hillary supporters have been acting in such...

a way as to keep people from recognizing this post as a spoof.

[ScreamingMeemie]

266. FWIW, I don't see much of a difference between the supporters of

either candidate. The only difference in the half cocked rants is the candidate's name.

[SharonRB]

274. Hey, you

Welcome back -- nice to see you.

I've been staying out of GD-Pee -- it's way too scary in there. There are safer places on DU and that's where I've been spending my time.

:hi: :hug:

[grantcart]

64. as I keep saying over and over again it is an indication of how weird it is

when people struggle to tell is it a real post, satire or a parody.

[Infinite Hope]

107. See comment #104. n/t

[DutchLiberal]

289. Yeah, but you know, these days, it's hard to tell with the Hillbots on DU...

[ekwhite]

36. Can you say "satire"?

Good - I knew you could :silly:

[annabanana]

140. (psst. . It was a joke). . . . . n/t

[Why Syzygy]

174. That's an excellent point,

even though you may have missed the spoof. Reverse sexism. That's deep.

[indimuse]

12. it is like they ALL took some hate Hllary potion...

...spooky...they all landed on my F*CK Them list as well..!

[Faygo Kid]

24. Uhh - poster intended this as satire. You know, satire?

Hillary backers have no sense of humor.

But, good that you called yourself out.

[cali]

26. bwahahaha. read the OP. It is satire.

[Name removed]

49. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[cali]

81. That would be you're not your

and I'm just trying to clean up your filth, dear- and inform you on what satire is.

[TahitiNut]

61. "None are so blind as those ..."

:eyes:

[jgraz]

85. Damn. Who picked 4 minutes in the "Confused Hillary Supporter Vehemently Agrees" bracket?

this is getting hard to keep track of.

[psychmommy]

194. look the scary angry black man reference

sorry that doesn't work here. take your scary angry black man stereotyping crap somewhere else.

[tokenlib]

14. Thanks for making me smile!!! n/t

[bleowheels]

15. "Not another flippin' anti-Olbermann post!" ....Is what I said when I originally saw your headline.

Hurrah on an excellent thread.

[SharonRB]

276. Me, too

I opened it up fully expecting to get angry and was pleasantly surprised at the satire. Great post!

[EmperorHasNoClothes]

16. LOL!

That pretty much sums it up! :rofl:

[bicentennial_baby]

17. I smell a DUzy!!

:rofl:

[havocmom]

86. Op should be in DUzy Hall of Fame!

And get a contract to write for Colbert!

[jgraz]

87. And what, exactly, does a DUzy smell like?

[Patsy Stone]

89. It smells like victory. n/t

[bleever]

100. DUzy!

:rofl:

[Patsy Stone]

170. Don't you have

a mountain to climb or something?

:hi:

[mudesi]

19. And no sarcasm tag, either

Good OP. K & R.

[ekwhite]

20. Damn

I came here to flame you, and this is what I get? Damnit, how am I supposed to get in my daily dose of spew?

[NOLALady]

21. Now that's out of the way.

Have another drink. :toast:

[grassfed]

25. dan le sac VS scroobius pip

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoN6XfyQsr4

[KAZ]

27. An excellent post! Bravo Bvar! n/t

[IndianaGreen]

29. Many Germans believed Josef Goebbels when he told them Poland attacked Germany in 1939

Keith Olbermann is the antithesis to Goebbels. Just as many Germans found it threatening to their moral universe to question Goebbel's propaganda, many Democrats have trouble seeing Hillary for what she really is, an unscrupulous amoral person that would do anything to get what she wants.

BTW, I notice that the list of "FREEPERS" keeps getting larger every day.

Good post, bvar22!

[Bucky]

30. Bravo!

You're really throwing the kitchen sink at 'em!

[myrna minx]

31. A DUzy is one the way! Fantastic post. n/t

[PurgedVoter]

32. K&R I am dead to me too!

I just realized that my respect for Hillary had slipped seriously these last two weeks. So I am dead to me!

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

151. Lol.

:)

[City Lights]

33. Outstanding!

:toast:

[jaxx]

34. That's a lot of dead people.

I always wonder when it's everybody else wrong and the victim is the sweetie pie.

[Debi]

38. OH NOES!

Poor KO!

[SoFlaJet]

39. Post Of The Week

LOL- beav--you forgot to tell us which artists you will no longer listen to or watch movies from....

[Bake]

40. Nice. KO should stick to sticking it to the Pukes.

I can't even watch him anymore. It was stupid on his part to take sides in this; as close as the Dem race is, he's alienating half his audience. That's gonna hurt his numbers.

After all is said and done, KO really isn't Edward R. Murrow.

Bake

[RBInMaine]

47. And so it's fine for Hillary to embrace John McCain?????

Where is your head??

[Bake]

57. That was SO predictable.

KO took sides long before HRC made that comment (which, by the way, as a Hillary supporter, I have stated was not the smartest thing to say).

But it wasn't an endorsement and you know it.

Bake

[Cha]

156. Yeah, don't choke on those

red herrings, bake.

[nradisic]

41. Everyone who disagrees with you....

Hillary supporters seem a wee bit hysterical. Get a grip people.....

[Cha]

158. The OP was just the Sweetest Satire ..

Ever!

[RBInMaine]

44. Oh yes, play the sexism victim card. How sad and WEAK !

The TRUTH always pisses off people like you.

[No Blood for Hubris]

315. Weak? Like in "pussy"? No, no, really, when you're being subjected

to sexism, you should just shut up, bitch.

Objecting to it just makes you look like -- a victim. A victim playing that awful victim card. So you know, just shut UP. Sexism is no biggie.

[TheZug]

45. Anything but blind obedience is sexist.

[No Blood for Hubris]

319. No, sexism is sexist. What part of that do you not understand?

Give examples.

[Patsy Stone]

46. Keith Olbermann stole my shoe!

K&R

[davidinalameda]

58. he kicked my cat

so there!

[Patsy Stone]

63. Just wait

I hear he's about to eat a baby. :)

[davidinalameda]

66. with puppy sauce!

[Patsy Stone]

76. Rachel and Steph

are headed over there with it now. Then the party can begin.

The whole thing will be written up in Rolling Stone and live blogged by Josh Marshall.

[swimmernsecretsea]

224. He hates Christmas. And ran over the Easter Bunny with his Hummer.

Hmmm. Hummer. Keith Olbermann....

I'll just stop here. :blush:

[Patsy Stone]

265. Next you're going to tell me

he was last seen breastfeeding at The Olive Garden, aren't you?

Here:

[SharonRB]

270. And he refused to show his receipt when he left Costco

:hi:

If this thread doesn't deserve a DUzy I don't know what does!

[Patsy Stone]

272. Okay

That was the best laugh I've had all day.

It's a DUzy slam dunk!

:hi:

[SharonRB]

277. I had Costco on my mind

I was just there a few hours ago after a meeting of the newly forming smart car owners group at our local smart car dealership. I want my car already!

[Patsy Stone]

283. And I want a ride in it!

:)

[SharonRB]

284. Guess you'll have to come up here for a visit

Seriously try to come for the Dream Cruise this year if not sooner -- third Saturday in August. You can drive your Mini up here -- we'd have a blast!

[swimmernsecretsea]

337. That funny smell in the elevator? Guess who.

And the one jangling the coins in his pocket, and whistling? Yup. He had 13 things in the speed checkout line. His book was overdue at the library, and I had it on reserve next. He pulled my loose thread, so my sleeve fell off. And that doesn't even count the scratch in my CD when I got it back, the last square of TP on the roll in the bathroom, and no ice cubes but the tray in the freezer.

Oh, but I'm not bitter.

[Patsy Stone]

377. During the movie

I heard his phone ring, and he answered it! He put the milk back with only that much in it, so when I went to have cereal, I couldn't. And, last week, when he borrowed the car, he didn't fill up the tank when he returned it.

As if all that wasn't bad enough, I hear he leaves the toilet seat up.

Bastid!

[swimmernsecretsea]

382. I love you, Patsy! You gave me the biggest laugh this week, besides this whole post!

You're a hot-mess fierce tranny mess fierce fierce fierce!

[Patsy Stone]

387. Silver tranny ferocia,

you should stop by the KOEB some evening, because it's clear you're a tickety-tack tranny hot mess out of control super tranny from Transylvania who is not apologizing for it!

I think I've watched it at least five times by now.

Fierce!

p.s. Don't bore Nina!

[swimmernsecretsea]

395. Oh, I am soooo there!

And apologizing for it is not fierce at all. (3 snaps in Z formation)

Are you picking up on how much Michael Kors (I have his fragrance, btw) is channelling Paul Lynde?

[Patsy Stone]

403. LOL!

Please... Did you LOVE the scarf and sunglasses "too cool for the room" affair he had going on at Bryant Park?

And that photo collage they showed of "young fashion victim Michael" was a hoot!

Hope we see you in the clubhouse!

[swimmernsecretsea]

406. Legwarmers. That's all I have to say.

Why Michael Kors would admit to this is beyond me. I would have only suggested I'd ever had legwarmers as apparel if Nina Garcia was threatening to give me that split-endy streak job she's got, or Roberto Cavalli (who makes me think of a pedophile Grandpa) threatening read W in that wheezy accent. But it explains the bitterness and that lip-curl we've been seeing. Suppressed memories are a bitch.

[Quixote1818]

48. K & R

[formercia]

50. The World turned upside-down.

The British troops reportedly sang this song as they surrendered at Yorktown:

If buttercups buzz'd after the bee,
If boats were on land, churches on sea,
If ponies rode men and if grass ate the cows,
And cats should be chased into holes by the mouse,
If the mamas sold their babies
To the gypsies for half a crown;
If summer were spring and the other way round,
Then all the world would be upside down.


Hill bots become Limpbough lovers....

[donheld]

52. You cannot be series!

[MindMatter]

132. A first rate moran!!!

That was one of the funniest, most well crafted posts I have read in a long time. The world is indeed upside down.

[NanceGreggs]

53. ........

:applause: :woohoo: :applause: :woohoo: :applause: :woohoo: :applause:


BRILLIANT!

[davidinalameda]

54. brava!!!

:woohoo:

[K Gardner]

55. K&R !! Good to see you Bvar !

:hi:

[TechBear_Seattle]

56. You actually started to suck me in at first

It took me until the Randi Rhodes mention before I caught on. The "I will listen ONLY to Rush Limbaugh" rant was a nice touch. :toast:

[Name removed]

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[Yael]

65. Hilarious!!

:rofl:

Please tell me the Bill Clinton going on Rush's show thing was a joke? :wow:

[Cogito ergo doleo]

67. Too funny. K&R

:kick:

[progdog]

69. So.

Fine.

[grantcart]

71. Hawaii is a graveyard to me

I refuse to take anything that the Clintons or the diehards say seriously. Humor is the only appropriate response.

[TwilightGardener]

72. 51st rec.

[datadiva]

74. Outstanding Post!

Just what I needed on this bleary Saturday morning. :toast:

[jenmito]

77. K&R! Can you believe a couple Hillary supporters here actually called Olbermann a RW tool?

I guess his "Special Comments" don't mean anything, or they're just ways to disguise his "hatred" of Dems. Like Bush saying anyone who disagrees with him loves the terrorists, Hillary supporters seem to think anyone who disagree with her is a Repub.

[No Blood for Hubris]

235. He IS a tool. Not a right-wing tool, but a tool nonetheless.

It must be contagious.

[Ichingcarpenter]

78. Brilliant!

[DearAbby]

79. "I see dead people" n/t

[The Stranger]

80. Wait -- But it CAN'T BE ALL ABOUT YOU!

It has to be ABOUT ME!

(DAMNIT!)

:rofl:

[Eurobabe]

82. Bvar, I was ready to hammer you!

:spray:

[bvar22]

92. I know, Old Friend.

Sorry.
:+

How are your Kittys?
Mr.Bug and Maggie Pie say HI, and they LOVE living in the country.
:hi:

[Eurobabe]

93. Kitties are great, they love the radiant floor heat :)

Post a picture of your cuties in the photogroup!! How life in the south these days?

[TahitiNut]

101. He certainly set the hook at the outset ... my cheek still hurts.

:rofl:

[Crunchy Frog]

84. You need to give Ann Coulter props as well.

Since she's joined the side of good and righteousness.

[swimmernsecretsea]

228. Oh, I'll give her props, all right.

I'll give her props real good.

[Honeycombe8]

90. And the Pope, too! You forgot the Pope! And all "the little people" out there in non-BillaryLand.

Anyone not officially registered in "the village." !!!

[BlueJac]

91. Good work

:yourock:

[marshall]

94. Hillary is hoping for an Obama mis-step

She knows the math is against her--but if she drags this out long enough there is the possibility that Obama will do something stupid and she will be there to save the day for the party.

Of course if the worst that can happen is an Obama lackey calling Hillary a monster, which we all pretty much agree is true whether we support her or not (because to paraphrase Tina Fey--Monsters get things done), they may have to step in an manufacture something against the candidate who dares to challenge the anointed one.

[Cha]

161. Samatha Powers is not an Obama

"lackey" as you so ignorantly put it. She's one of his knowledgeable foreign policy advisers who candidly came out with .."she's a monster" which pretty well sums it up ATM..but, only hilary can say whatever the fuck she wants and everyone else has to toe the line or they get fired.

hilary's pink slip is comin'.

[marshall]

211. Look it up

Lackey derives from the French word for "foot soldier". I think Samanatha Powers fits that definition.

[Cha]

256. Whatever..hilary's a monster and

Samantha Powers is an educated woman who is held in high esteem.

[marshall]

286. I agree with you

I don't mean to disparage Ms. Power. I applaud her for what she said.

[90-percent]

95. Keith

Keith commemorated Joel Hodgson's birthday recently.

That makes me a Keith fan for life.

-90%

[here_is_to_hope]

97. Simply Smokin'!!! Even sorta cured my hangover...sorta....n/t

[Utopian Leftist]

103. Oops Duplicate n/t

[WillyT]

98. That Was Awesome... Thank You !!! - K & R !!!

:bounce::yourock::bounce:

:rofl:

:hi:

[femmedem]

102. Don't forget that traitor Lamont!

I used to think he was a straight-up guy when he challenged Lieberman and ran on his anti-war platform. But no more! I'd vote for Lieberman now over that weasel cultist scumbag now that he's endorsed Obama! :puke:

[Infinite Hope]

104. When I first started reading, I actually thought you were serious and an irrational HRC supporter.

I almost closed the window, but decided to keep reading and then realized it was sarcasm. My instant headache began to slowly dissipate in the humor of the post. Then I realized some actually feel that way and the remaining stress...remained.

[Utopian Leftist]

105. LOL!

That was fantastic!

But you left out Moveon and Bill Maher.

At least we can still rely on Rush and Tina Fey.

[SaveAmerica]

106. Thank goodness, I thought this KO loving dem was going to have to come

through the computer and get you!!

[Strelnikov_]

108. Sam Seder - "Hillary Cliberman"

Looks like he's dead, also.

[Cronus Protagonist]

110. A whole thread about Hillary done by an O operative!

I love how these things play out. Hillary's campaign must be damn good to be able to do this.

[bvar22]

124. Not an Obama operative here.

DieHard Kucinich supporter that moved to Edwards.
I see Obama as slightly less "Centrist" than Hillary.
Obama disavowed a relationship with the DLC, and has worked a 50-State Grassroots campaign.

I prefer to take a chance on Obama to the certainty of a Hillary DLC administration.

[Cronus Protagonist]

126. I wasn't questioning your credentials or intent

It's just that somehow DU went from a million threads a day about Obama to a million threads a day about Hillary almost overnight. That kind of sea change doesn't happen on its own. I credit the Hillary campaign for creating it.

We are all merely pawns.

[Creideiki]

167. That's okay

I see Obama as being slightly more homophobic than Hillary. :shrug:

[Tarheel_Dem]

239. DOMA.....nt

[Zhade]

331. We're in accord, then. I feel the same way!

Great to see you still around!

[Bigleaf]

111. Excellent Post!

It's quite entertaining and very telling at the same time.

[still_one]

112. excellent post /nt

[apocalypsehow]

114. Heh - that is PRECISELY the mindset of the unhinged HRC supporters. Excellent satire - recommended.

:thumbsup:

[Hawkeye-X]

115. Nevermind

[Coexist]

116. and ROLLING STONE is misogynistic

everyone knows a rolling stone gathers no moss, which is a direct attack on sphagnum moss, which is used to grow other plants, giving life, like a woman. So clearly, Rolling Stone hates women!!!1!

:mad: :mad: :mad: <----- see how angry I am

:puke: :puke: :puke: <----- see how sick this makes me

[sellitman]

117. YOU are dead to me now!!!!!

Brilliant!!!!!


:toast:

[MindMatter]

134. Where is the "dead to me" button on this &@%$^ forum?

[yellerpup]

118. Very rich!

Thanks!

[Growler]

119. Excellent post!!

[Berry Cool]

120. Keith Olbermann is all in my house with disease.

Nice to see someone on DU finally talking sense!!!!!!!

[smiley_glad_hands]

121. Greatest Post Ever. K&R. eom

[cascadiance]

122. And the Free Republic has shown that they favor Hillary too and have seen the light like Rush!

Freeper Poll

Freepers I guess aren't as sexist and anti-Hillary as the rest of these "traitors" are!

:sarcasm:

[ChazII]

123. You have great writing talents

thanks for the laughter.

[Spiffarino]

125. There's no way to add to this

You brought the "A" snark today.

:kick: and R!

[Major Hogwash]

127. At least spell his name right! Keeth Olbermann! Sheesh!

Or not.

He don't care, not really.

"good luck and good night" ~ great signing off line.

[CadenBlaker]

128. Awesome!

I love your sarcasm. ;)

[burythehatchet]

129. that is very well done bvar22.

:thumbsup:

[David Zephyr]

130. Brilliant bvar22! You've pulled the whole Clinton musical score together & played it for all to hear

A masterful musical composition that you have played using all of the many screeching separate sounds from the Clintons into a skillful production.

You've gathered all of the various, single discordant notes from the Clintons over the last weeks and assembled them into the full symphony as it should be played--as it must be heard.

I hope those in the Clinton band who have been playing their instruments all alone, tooting their horns one at a time, banging their little drums offering just one beat here and there--- I hope that now with your full composition available here --- that they can now hear just how terrible the full musical score sounds when it is all played together.

If I can offer my musical critique: The overall score has a very whiny tone with a monstrously overplayed --and annoying-- lack of musical maturity.

Until you brilliantly pulled it all together, I had only suffered the individual notes by the various members of the Clinton orchestra. But with your full assemblage, you've managed to point out just how painful to the ear the Clinton's attempt at making music can be.

Thankfully, Hillary did not sing in the production

Very well put together, bvar22! :)

[Berry Cool]

131. This just in: DU's Keith Olbermann Estrogen Brigade votes to declare "Keith is dead to us."

This also just in: Keith Olbermann Estrogen Brigade votes overwhelmingly in favor of necrophilia.

[Wetzelbill]

208. That was worse than what I said last year!

But funnier too. :rofl:

[Berry Cool]

309. Well, Wetzelbill, I look at it like this:

Bad side - he'd be totally nonresponsive

Good side - we wouldn't have to worry about the pain of rejection

[Kurovski]

227. !

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[No Blood for Hubris]

236. Estrogen brigade? That's very witty.

Will you be posting about Stepin Fetchit anytime soon, as well?

[Tarheel_Dem]

243. KOEB is an actual group on DU....

"Keith Olbermann Estrogen Brigade"....get a clue before posting idiocy. :eyes:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=315x111361

ENJOY!

[No Blood for Hubris]

310. Your point being what?

With democrats like you and Keith, who needs Republicans?

[Tarheel_Dem]

334. you gave the impression that you were "offended" by the poster's

use of the term "estrogen brigade", I thought I'd point out that there is such a group on DU. See post #325.

As for your snide comment about step-n-fetchit, I'll let that pass this time. I can't speak for Keith, but I don't have to vet my democratic credentials for you. I prefer not to be lectured, especially by someone with a whopping 149 posts. Project much?

[Kurovski]

386. No Blood for Hubris, you apparently need Republicans,

they're some of Senator Clinton's biggest supporters.

[Tarheel_Dem]

392. good one....kurovski

what with hillary's newfound friends over at fox news, and bill giving interviews to the likes of rush limbaugh...you can't help but scratch your head.

[Kurovski]

393. There is also this:

"A staggering 16,000-plus Republicans in Cuyahoga County switched parties when they voted in last week's primary.

That includes 931 in Rocky River, 1,027 in Westlake and 1,142 in Strongsville. More than a third of the Republicans in Solon and Bay Village switched. Pepper Pike had the most dramatic change: just under half its Republicans became Democrats. And some of those who changed - it's difficult to say how many - could be in trouble with the law."

Meet Todd Appelbaum, a 46-year-old from Columbus, who wore a shirt that says “Osama for Obama” to the Clinton campaign’s election-night event in Ohio last night.
The white t-shirt, with an image of Barack Obama dressed in traditional Somali garb, is adorned with a blue Hillary Clinton button, although Appelbaum is not what one would call a real Hillary Clinton supporter.
“I voted for Hillary today,” he said, “because I’m concerned that, God forbid, Barack Obama will beat McCain. The enemy of my enemy is my friend.”

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x498745

[Tarheel_Dem]

404. Oh, that is so disgusting, I had heard about this guy, but hadn't seen

the article. That is shameful, but I'm not surprised.

[RevCheesehead]

325. ....

:hi:

[CC]

329. Berry!!!

:spank:





I'd like him responsive so dead would NOT work.:rofl:

[Berry Cool]

372. OK, OK, you have a point.

But the "dead" part would be only theoretical, you see.

I'll stop now, before I'm tempted to make any tasteless "rigor mortis" jokes.

[Mabus]

366. Yay!

Huh! I must remember to read the fine print before casting my vote. I thought we were voting for going nekkid in Philly. :spank:

Now, where did I leave my pants? :blush:

[ProSense]

133. Love it! n/t

[burf]

135. May I suggest

that you get ahold of the person who did the infamous "Just leave Britney alone" U-Tube and use them to do the video of your post.

Great post btw!

[mckara]

136. You Need Psychological Help!

n/t

[Catherina]

137. To think I almost didn't click on this thread

Wonderful post. I haven't laughed so hard on something so well written in months. Bravo :bounce:

[davidwparker]

138. funny ... the content alone would make :sarcasm: superfluous.

[Dogmudgeon]

139. Your a really good satirist.

That comedy technice of yours, pretending to be on one side but really being on the other -- that's brilliant!!! I wish I could think up stuff like that.

You really ought to send some of your samples to John Stewart or Saturday Nite Live (although SNL is totally LAME and they love Shrillary Clintoon like flys love shit, HAHAHAHA. Especially Tina Fay. I can't believe I thought she was smoken when I was young.)

Im' going to steal your technice. (I'm glad your not Shitlery or you'd say I was plagerizing you. :rofl:

--p!

[Kurovski]

231. And

You really ought to use spellcheck.

[Tarheel_Dem]

246. I know right?......"technice", and he used it twice for emphasis

:wtf: :rofl:

[Zhade]

332. You're. Technique. Flies. Smokin'. I'm. You're (again). Plagiarizing.

Spellcheck is your friend (sadly, there is no grammarcheck you can use).

[Dogmudgeon]

338. You guys aren't exactly the sharpest knives in the set.

What conceivable reason might someone have for deliberately using mis-spelled words, poor punctuation, adolescent invective, and awkward construction, when dealing with political "humor" having all the subtlety of a baseball bat?

Well?

Do I really have to explain it?

(Yeah, I guess I do. But first, why don't you give it a second try?)

--p!

[Kurovski]

340. You don't have to explain a thing, Pigwidgeon.

It's already a well-established fact that you're an arsehole with a predilection for online fishing. :*

[Dogmudgeon]

351. I love you too, Kurovski

:loveya:

{{{BFF}}}

--p!

[Kurovski]

381. That's good to know, honeybunch.

:loveya: Maybe Senator Clinton can just say her whole campaign has been satire.

Maybe we can say that the election process in this nation, and for decades, has been satire.

It would explain a great deal.

Best of luck to you and Hillary, and happy fishing, lover.

[tavalon]

141. bvar!

I thought you were doing the 12 steps with me. I didn't expect to find you in here! Of course, (shuffling feet), I'm not supposed to be here either, but, um, well, uh, nevermind.

[ovidsen]

142. Good!! BE MAD!!!

Although Keith is not an ogre.

<http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=2967936&mesg_id=2972155>

I rest my case.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

143. Kudos on a brilliant satire!

Like you, I'm a Kucinich supporter, and so have been simply watching the two duke it out. I don't mind a fair fight, but it seems to me that Clinton has been hitting below the belt with her McCain comments, which will only come back to hurt the party. And I agree that she has had a sense of entitlement that hasn't sat well with me. Your OP pointed this attitude brilliantly. Thanks!

[Cha]

144. When I started reading this..I'm like

"What?.. Not bvar!" :evilgrin: Don't worry, you can still like fauxsnooze.

[SeattleGirl]

145. ROFLMAO!!!!!!

You nailed it! You freakin' nailed it!!!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[skooooo]

146. Brilliant.

Thanks for breaking it down.

[Warren DeMontague]

148. Are the Dead dead to you, too?

Sexist Hillary-hatin' hippies!

http://dead.net/node/11363/

[IndianaGreen]

223. Well, the Greatful Dead support Obama

:rofl:

[Warren DeMontague]

316. It's "Grateful", but yes, I know.

I was bummed as hell I couldn't make it down to the Warfield that night. :hippie:

[Hutzpa]

152. Gee, basically everyone that supports Obama

is dead to you...good God, how many more do you have on your list of death,

you sure have killed alot of people today.

What about George Bush, Dick Cheney John McCain are they dead too

or are you keeping them alive because you believe in them.

Nice way to express your ignorance...

bwahahahahaha!!

:rofl:

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

154. oh and a bunch of states are dead to you too n/t

[Seabiscuit]

155. Dumbest. Post. Ever. And Biggest. Waste. Of. Keystrokes. Ever.

[hulka38]

197. You missed a period between And and Biggest

[Seabiscuit]

199. No, I didn't. It was deliberate.

[donheld]

343. What you missed was the joy of Sarcasm n/t

[Cleita]

157. Randi finally spoke the truth and so did the others,

what we have known all along, that the Clintons are DLCers and not that different from the neo-cons that they are now inviting to sit at the table in their government. Good God! Haven't we had enough? btw I'm not a big Obama supporter. We lost our chance for real change in Dennis Kucinich and John Edwards. No matter who wins in November, whether it be McCain, Hillary or Obama or maybe a combination of two of those three, it will be another eight years of business as usual with the oil cartel ruling this country continuing their reign.

[Myrina]

159. I'm sure everyone you mentioned is losing sleep ...

... because of your tantrum. Waaah. :eyes:

[Rageneau]

160. One day soon, ALL of these people will have to apologize to Hillary.

And if she wins the election, they will crawl to her on their bellies to get a chance to.

[Kurovski]

384. We will "have to", "they will crawl"?

Sounds....I dunno...cultish?

[NoodleyAppendage]

162. With all of the TRUE Dems on your hate list...why don't you just make the jump to the Repukes?

Who needs your idiotic ass? The Repukes will be happy to have you on their team. They need more dumbasses to fill their ranks. Good riddance.

J

[Catherine Vincent]

165. Read the post again, Noodley.

It's an Obama supporter making fun of Clinton supporters.

[NoodleyAppendage]

302. Sorry. The DU HillBots have sucked dry my satire detection system.

But, then again, I guess it was successful satire if it fools people. Swift had the same effect with his Modest Proposal.

J

[Catherine Vincent]

163. I don't see how something like this can make it to the greatest page.

It's not that funny the way you Obama supporters are carrying on. I still like Keith. And he is a bit of a sexist but that's okay, that's just the way he is. Remember what he said about Sarah Jessica Parker? A lot of female DUers were up in arms about it and a lot of them are Obama supporters.

[citygal]

164. That made me laugh

OUT LOUD!

[Why Syzygy]

169. The MATH? Who cares about the MATH?

haha .. You had me going. :thumbsup: Great mockery!

[Connonym]

171. Has Feingold endorsed and I missed it?

I guess I lose my position as Russ's #1 stalker :(

[Kaotac]

173. I thought you were serious for a minute..

Until I got to the bit about Rush Limbaugh and then the bit about not counting the delegates.. Actually, it was the "Nobody cares about MATH" part that tipped me off.

[LulaMay]

175. They are all hurting the party and liberal politics more than anyone. The sexism turns my stomach.

[Warren DeMontague]

189. The primary process itself is sexist. Hillary should have been handed the nomination

8 months ago, the second Terry McAuliffe announced that it's "HER TURN".

I don't understand the hatred and sexism that made anyone question the inevitability of her nomination for president. Don't they understand that she doesn't need to explain WHY she should be nominated, it's HERS simply because, you know, she's supposed to have it?

The sexism of people- including pundits who support her- who point out that basing her entire early campaign on the assumption that the nomination was hers for the plucking by divine mandate was probably not the best way to convince people that she was the best person for the job... god, how can they sleep at night with their sexist selves?

It sure is nauseating! The sexism of people who point out that she voted for the Iraq War, the sexism of people who make irrational, sexist demands that she acknowledge that vote was a mistake. The blatant sexism of folks who call her focus, in the senate, on "issues" like flag burning or video games 'political pandering'... sexist Hillary haters all!

Oh, yeah... :sarcasm:

[Tarheel_Dem]

247. good one impeachdubya.....

:yourock: :applause: :rofl:

You're as good as the o.p.

[Kurovski]

390. Just because I'm a sexist doesn't mean I have to vote for Hillary.

Now go get me a beer.

[No Blood for Hubris]

237. Yes, and they just won't stop.

Why is that?

[LulaMay]

176. I have written too, and continue to call/write....keep it up people. It makes a difference.

[Tarheel_Dem]

248. You people are idiots...

calling and screeching at radio talk show hosts, for what you perceive as anti-hillary bias. It hasn't endeared you to them, in fact, just the opposite. They know it's coordinated at the campaign level. They've even pointed out that you guys sound as if you're reading from a script.

LEAVE HILLARY ALONE! :cry:

[swimmernsecretsea]

177. Can I be dead to you now also? Please? All the cool people are and I wanna be cool too!

I'll make you my friend on Facebook! And we can be BFF and then go to the Beverly Center and Fred Segal's on Melrose and totally max out our cards! Wheee!

[sss1977]

178. Lol, perfect!

[nonconformist]

179. You know, I could write one of these too, easily, going the OTHER way.

You guys have given plenty of ammo for such a thing.

Here are just a few of the links I could use when doing so....

Paul Krugman is fast becoming a hack

Fmr. Clinton Secretary of Labor Robert Reich: "Krugman, the Times Oped Page, and Obama"

Obama attacking Paul Krugman's credibility

Ezra Klein: Obama's Oppo on Paul Krugman!

Wesley Clark is campaigning for Hillary Clinton. FYI

Wesley Clark: Obama Not Prepared To Be Commander-in-Cheif

Wes Clark has compromised his integrity for HRC.

Gen. Clark says Obama started the MUDSLINGING!

Joseph C. Wilson : Obama's hollow "judgment" and empty record


Wait... in reading your fictional OP, did I miss when Kucinich endorsed Obama? Oh right, more fiction.

I also wasn't aware that most of those media personalities had the kind of respected authority people like Clark and Wilson used to have on DU.

[Shae]

278. In Iowa Kucinich Told Supporters to Caucus for Obama

"Kucinich Tells Supporters to Caucus for Obama"
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/01/01/kucinich-tells-supporters-to-caucus-for-obama/

[understandinglife]

180. "Hillary CAN still WIN if nobody counts the delegates!"

Most excellent!!!

Thank you,
Bob


Yes. We. Will. --- Be counted; and elect Obama to the Presidency.

[No Blood for Hubris]

238. Yes. Especially if nobody counts Florida and Michigan.

Is that what you meant?

[sellitman]

359. You mean if no one cheats?

Like Hillary?

[Unbowed]

181. LOL! Great post! K&R for sanity (and levity).

:7

[Politicalboi]

183. Poor baby

Maybe if Hillary didn't go so negative she would have held the respect she had by all of us here too. Maybe you can start watching Fuax Noise they love her over there.

[Kurovski]

204. That's EXACTLY what we're going to do!

Fool me once shame on me, fool me, fool me twice...won't get fooled again!!!

[hulka38]

184. Best post ever, bvar22.

You made my day and have helped to bolster my faith in the intelligence and good humor of my fellow Democrats. Thanks.

[d_b]

186. sexist hillary haters!11

kill em all!

[TheDonkey]

187. Greatest. Post. Ever.

[Wetzelbill]

190. I like laughing at the people who don't get it

That's what makes threads like this the best. :) I think if somebody really truly needs the "Sarcasm" smiley to understand sarcasm, irony and/or satire, that they might not be an actual Democrat. :)

[Catherine Vincent]

198. It's not that they don't get it, they didn't read it.

They just went with the heading. I make that mistake sometimes.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

193. Nicely done!

:rofl:

[hulka38]

195. The giveaway was that your spelling was too good.

[mod mom]

196. ALL FOLKS YOU USED TO RESPECT-Do you think you might be missing something?

FOLLOW THE MONEY!!!!

Here is a portion of activist/mother, Terri Swearingen's acceptance speech for the Goldman Environmental Prize, given April 14, 1997:



I am not a scientist or a Ph.D. I am a nurse and a housewife, but my most important credential is that I am a mother. In 1982, I was pregnant with our one and only child. That's when I first learned of plans to build one of the world's largest toxic waste incinerators in my community. When they began site preparation to begin building the incinerator in 1990, my life changed forever. I'd like to share with you some of the lessons I have learned from my experiences over the past seven years.

One of the main lessons I have learned from the WTI experience is that we are losing our democracy. How have I come to this sad realization? Democracy is defined by Merriam Webster as "government by the people, especially rule of the majority," and "the common people constituting the source of political authority." The definition of democracy no longer fits with the reality of what is happening in East Liverpool, Ohio. For one thing, it is on the record that the majority of people in the Ohio Valley do not want the WTI hazardous waste incinerator in their area, and they have been opposed to the project from its inception. Some of our elected officials have tried to help us, but the forces arrayed against us have been stronger than we or they had imagined. Public concerns and protests have been smothered with meaningless public hearings, voodoo risk assessment and slick legal maneuvering.

Government agencies that were set up to protect public health and the environment only do their job if it does not conflict with corporate interests. Our current reality is that we live in a "wealthocracy" big money simply gets what it wants. In this wealthocracy, we see three dynamics at play: corporations versus the planet, the government versus the people, and corporate consultants or "experts" versus common sense. In the case of WTI, we have seen all three.

The second lesson I have learned ties directly to the first, and that is that corporations can control the highest office in the land. When Bill Clinton and Al Gore came to the Ohio Valley, they called the siting of the WTI hazardous waste incinerator next door to a 400 student elementary school, in the middle of an impoverished Appalachian neighborhood, immediately on the bank of the Ohio River in a flood plain an "UNBELIEVABLE IDEA." They said we ought to have control over where these things are located. They even went so far as to say they would stop it. But then they didn't! What has been revealed in all this is that there are forces running this country that are far more powerful than the President and the Vice President. This country trumpets to the world how democratic it is, but it's funny that I come from a community that our President dare not visit because he cannot witness first hand the injustice which he has allowed in the interest of a multinational corporation, Von Roll of Switzerland. And the Union Bank of Switzerland. And Jackson Stephens, a private investment banker from Arkansas. These forces are far more relevant to our little town than the President of the United States! And he is the one who made it that way. He has chosen that path. We didn't choose it for him. We begged him to come to East Liverpool, but he refused. We begged the head of EPA to come, but she refused. She hides behind the clever maneuvering of lawyers and consultants who obscure the dangers of the reckless siting of this facility with theoretical risk assessments.

-snip

http://www.ohiocitizen.org/campaigns/wti/et0897s17.html




Ask Hillary About This Tonight. I Dare You.
by Zwoof

Thu Jan 31, 2008 at 03:40:46 AM PST

-snip

While I was writing the original piece on the history of this foul project, a new ruling from the Ohio EPA allowed this incinerator, located 1,100 feet from an elementary school, to accept even more hazardous waste (anthrax, radioactive waste, infectious medical waste and mixed hazardous waste from Hurricane Katrina) than the original permit that was shrouded in corruption and approved by the Clinton Administration

Clinton and Al Gore promised the residents of East Liverpool, Ohio that they would not allow this incinerator originally approved by Bush '41 to operate. However, a Clinton EPA appointee, recommended by his classmate Hillary Clinton, approved the permit.

This is a tangled tale of corporatism, broken promises and an environmental disaster waiting to happen.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/1/31/21045/9822/688/446786





There has always been something incongruous about Stephens Inc. Despite the Little rock firm's attempts to portray itself as a small- city operation that closes for the duck season and got fabulously lucky on a couple of down-home deals like Wal-Mart, it was, at the incinerator's inception, the ninth-largest investment bank in the country. Since it is not headquartered in New York, its dealings are local news, little noticed by the national press, even when they have national implications. And, as a source close to the company once remarked, "The farther you get from Arkansas, the better it looks."

Stephens Inc. was founded by Witt Stephens, a state legislator's son who parlayed a Depression-era belt-buckle, Bible, and municipal-bond business into an immense personal fortune. After his retirement in 1973, the company was run by his shy younger brother, Jackson (a classmate of Jimmy Carter's at the Naval Academy). Witt Stephens and Stephens Inc. did much to create the economic paradox that is modern Arkansas: a desperately poor state with a scant 2.3 million inhabitants that is nonetheless home to a number of wealthy companies. Without the financial assistance of the Stephens brothers, Sam Walton might have ended his days as the most innovative merchant in Bentonville. Stephens money was also important to the fortunes of enterprises as various as Tyson Foods and Linda Bloodworth-Thomason, the television producer and reigning First Friend. Stephens Inc. is an important client of the Rose law firm, whose chairman, C. Joseph Giroir, made Hillary Rodham Clinton a partner. And back in 1977, Stephens assisted BCCI's infiltration of the American banking system by brokering the latter's purchase of National Bank of Georgia stock held by Bert Lance, former President Jimmy Carter's friend and disgraced budget director.

Jackson Stephens (who turned over the reins to his son, Warren, in the late eighties) and his firm were both substantial contributors to the campaigns of Presidents Reagan and Bush (to the tune of at least $100,000 in 1980 and 1989), but they have been closer still to Bill Clinton (whom Witt Stephens had been known to call "that boy").

On two occasions, once when Clinton was running for reelection in Arkansas in 1990 and again in March 1992, when his battered presidential campaign was broke, the Stephens family saved Clinton's bacon with an infusion of money. Indeed, it may not be too much to say that their Worthen Bank's emergency $3.5 million line of credit saved the presidential campaign from extinction. --L.J.D.

-snip

http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/1993/11/davis.html





Who is the octopussy that might be lurking in the Ohio River Valley? Perhaps we should start by asking shy Arkansas billionaire Jackson T. Stephens. After all, Stephens introduced BCCI from Pakistan to the United States and the WTI waste incinerator to East Liverpool, Ohio. Stephens would be a good sketch artist because he's seen some monstrous scandals in his day. Stephens' family firm is the largest privately owned investment bank outside Wall Street. In September 1977, President Jimmy Carter's Budget Director Burt Lance was forced to resign amid allegations about his bank dealings with Stephens (Stephens and Carter were classmates at the Naval Academy). In 1978, Stephens, Lance and BCCI were charged with violating U.S. security laws. The charges were dropped after the defendants promised not to violate security laws in the future, even though they admitted no guilt.

The New York Post reported in February 1992 that it was Stephens who enabled BCCI to gain a foothold in the U.S. and helped the fraud-plagued bank secretly acquire U.S. banks. In Peter Truell and Larry Gurwin's book, False Profits, perhaps the best account of the BCCI scandal, the authors outlined how opium revenue from Afghanistan Mujahedin fighting the Soviets ended up in the accounts of BCCI, founded by Agha Hasan Abedi. The Post reported that Stephens allegedly introduced Abedi to Lance shortly after Lance resigned.

In 1991, Lance testified that he urged Abedi to acquire a Washington bank holding company, but he denied any knowledge of BCCI's subsequent secret ownership of First American Bankshares. The Post reported that Securities and Exchange Commission documents from 1977 substantiate that the idea originated with Stephens.

During Bill Clinton's 1992 presidential run, Stephens and his son Warren boasted of raising more than $100,000 for the campaign. The Stephens family also owned a 38 percent share in Worthen National Bank that extended a crucial $2 million line of credit to Clinton in January 1992.

-snip

http://www.ohiocitizen.org/campaigns/wti/bob.html



Waste Technologies Industry, Inc. (WTI)


WTI has also gained significant political support, as one of the original partners in the corporation was Jackson Stephens. Stephens, an Arkansas investor, was known as a significant contributor to Reagan, Bush, and Clinton campaigns.

U.S. Environmental Protection Agency

The EPA has been accused of having bias in favor of WTI and carrying out decision-making activities without required public participation. The agency also violated rules established in RCRA during the WTI permit application process. EPA admitted such wrong-doing at a hearing before the House Judiciary Committee's subcommitteeon Administrative Law and Government Relations, as well as the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee.

http://www.umich.edu/~snre492/mcormick.html#Key%20Actors



Washington, D.C. - The League of Conservation Voters (LCV), the self-described political arm of the environmental movement, has given President Clinton a middling grade of "C-plus" overall for "not working up to potential" during his first year in office.

In particular, the League criticized the Clinton Administration for failing to halt Waste Technologies Industries' controversial hazardous waste incinerator in East Liverpool, Ohio.

-snip

http://wasteage.com/mag/waste_fewer_onsite_hazwaste/

After Mining Deal, Financier Donated to Clinton

By JO BECKER and DON VAN NATTA Jr.
Published: January 31, 2008
Late on Sept. 6, 2005, a private plane carrying the Canadian mining financier Frank Giustra touched down in Almaty, a ruggedly picturesque city in southeast Kazakhstan. Several hundred miles to the west a fortune awaited: highly coveted deposits of uranium that could fuel nuclear reactors around the world. And Mr. Giustra was in hot pursuit of an exclusive deal to tap them.

Unlike more established competitors, Mr. Giustra was a newcomer to uranium mining in Kazakhstan, a former Soviet republic. But what his fledgling company lacked in experience, it made up for in connections. Accompanying Mr. Giustra on his luxuriously appointed MD-87 jet that day was a former president of the United States, Bill Clinton.

-snip


"Kazakhstan’s president, Nursultan A. Nazarbayev, whose 19-year stranglehold on the country has all but quashed political dissent."

"Mr. Nazarbayev walked away from the table with a propaganda coup, after Mr. Clinton expressed enthusiastic support for the Kazakh leader’s bid to head an international organization that monitors elections and supports democracy."

-snip


Just months after the Kazakh pact was finalized, Mr. Clinton’s charitable foundation received its own windfall: a $31.3 million donation from Mr. Giustra that had remained a secret until he acknowledged it last month. The gift, combined with Mr. Giustra’s more recent and public pledge to give the William J. Clinton Foundation an additional $100 million, secured Mr. Giustra a place in Mr. Clinton’s inner circle, an exclusive club of wealthy entrepreneurs in which friendship with the former president has its privileges.

LINK: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/31/us/politics/31donor.html


THE NEW REPUBLIC
With Friends Like These ...
by Marin Cogan, Melanie Mason, and Barron YoungSmith
Everything you ever wanted to know about the Clintons' shadiest donors.
Post Date Monday, February 04, 2008

It's not that we expect politicians to have squeaky-clean donor lists. You try running for office without, at one point or another, taking money from someone you probably shouldn't. Even Barack Obama, Mr. Clean, has Tony Rezko. But the Frank Giustra-Kazakhstan-Uranium affair, blown open by The New York Times last week, serves as a reminder that the relationship between the Clintons and money has not always been lily-white. Here, a guide to the unsavory characters who have been associated with Bill and Hillary Clinton.


http://www.tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=076fd56f-4aca-4683-a9d1-3c55d748946e


White House Had Ended System of Checking Foreign Guests

By TIM WEINER
Published: February 3, 1997

Ten years ago the Reagan White House adopted a rule about foreign businessmen, lobbyists and consultants who wanted to get in to see the President without the blessing of their embassies: they shouldn't.

But President Clinton's aides did not follow that rule. In their eagerness to raise campaign money, they invited friends of the President's fund-raisers -- including China's biggest arms merchant, favor-seeking Indonesian businessmen, a reputed Russian mobster and other dubiously credentialed dealmakers -- to meet with Mr. Clinton. Nor did the White House check the suitability of Americans invited by the Democratic National Committee to meet the President, allowing, among others, a twice-convicted felon to sip coffee with Mr. Clinton.

-snip

And that is why nobody on the White House political team saw fit to ask the National Security Council staff a year ago about a man named Wang Jun, who showed up on a guest list for a White House coffee with the President. The question of exactly how Mr. Wang got into the White House has a simple answer: ''Nobody ever asked anybody,'' a National Security Council official said.

So, at the behest of a tireless political fund-raiser from Arkansas, Charlie Yah Lin Trie, Mr. Clinton wound up sipping coffee with Mr. Wang, who runs the Chinese Government's weapons manufacturing and procuring agency, which is involved in secret arms deals around the world. These coffees for fund-raisers and donors began as a way to raise morale among party loyalists after the Democrats' disastrous showing in the 1994 election. By 1995, they became a way to reward big donors and prospect for new ones, according to Democratic fund-raisers.

-snip

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C01E2DC103DF930A35751C0A961958260&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=all




New York Times, May 17, 1998



How Chinese Won Rights to Launch Satellites for U.S.

(BY JEFF GERTH AND DAVID E. SANGER)
On Oct. 9, 1995, Secretary of State Warren Christopher ended a lengthy debate within the Clinton Administration by initialing a classified order that preserved the State Department's sharp limits on China's ability to launch American-made satellites aboard Chinese rockets.

Both American industry and state-owned Chinese companies had been lobbying for years to get the satellites off what is known as the `munitions list,' the inventory of America's most sensitive military and intelligence-gathering technology. But Mr. Christopher sided with the Defense Department, the intelligence agencies and some of his own advisers, who noted that commercial satellites held technological secrets that could jeopardize `significant military and intelligence interests.'

There was one more reason not to ease the controls, they wrote in a classified memorandum. Doing so would `raise suspicions that we are trying to evade China sanctions' imposed when the country was caught shipping weapons technology abroad--which is what happened in 1991 and 1993 for missile sales to Pakistan.

-snip

Other powerful Chinese state enterprises also had multibillion-dollar stakes in getting access to American satellites. Among them was the China International Trade and Investment Corporation, whose chairman, Wang Jun, gained unwanted attention in the United States last year when it was revealed that he attended one of Mr. Clinton's campaign coffee meetings in the White House. The day of Mr. Wang's visit, Mr. Clinton, in what Mr. Rubin said was a coincidence, signed waivers allowing the Chinese to launch four American satellites--though they were unrelated to the business interests of China International Trade.

-snip

http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/library/news/china/1998/h980618-prc5.htm

[Kurovski]

200. How could we have been so wrong?

Why, I even bet that Olbermann character is gay!






















Please God, please make Olbermann be gay.

[Wetzelbill]

207. I'm telling Howard Dean

:yoiks:

[Kurovski]

216. He's into it, dude!

;-) We can all discuss like, politics and stuff between rounds.

[Wetzelbill]

217. See this is why I still think we're going to win this thing.

I mean my Vice President is literally in bed with the DNC chairman and the Librul Media. :)

[swimmernsecretsea]

230. Giggle.

You said in bed. Heh heh.

[myrna minx]

282. !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHjFxJVeCQs

:rofl:

[Kurovski]

293. !

:rofl: :rofl:

But it's true!!! We don't lie, we just challenge your beliefs.

[myrna minx]

298. I don't know what to believe anymore.

:rofl:

[Wetzelbill]

347. hahahaha

That's good. :rofl:

[swimmernsecretsea]

221. I saw him first.

But, we can share if you're ok with that.

[Kurovski]

225. We'll be needing documentation of this "first sighting" claim.

;-)

[Berry Cool]

311. You're a cruel man, Kurovski.

One of the few straight men I manage to drool after, and you STILL want him.

I mean, come on. You've already got most of the best-looking figure skaters. Can't you spare us Keith??

[Kurovski]

339. You know I love you,

but my ambitions and vision surpass even those of our beloved Senator Hillary Clinton.

I will meet with the superdelegates of the Gay Agenda on Tuesday, March 18, 2008 at The New York Times. We will contact you by registered mail regarding the results of our vote as to whether we shall spare you Mr Olbermann.

We would also like to take this opportunity to inform you that the reference to candidate Keith as a "spare"--as if he were produced by Goodyear, or a pocketful of lint-spotted change--will play a part in our final decision.

However, we shall likewise take into consideration the thousands of hours spent in obsessive dressing/undressing of Mr. Olbermann by the eyes of The Estrogen Brigade.

The Gay Agenda itself holds the belief that a tie by Hermes is more than sufficient haberdashery for our Mr. Olbermann.

Best regards,

[Berry Cool]

373. Merciless! Just merciless!

And as for referring to Mr. Olbermann as a "spare"...well, to YOU, he would be a "spare." As for myself, I think of him as "The Elderly Shut-In Spinster's Last Chance."

Not that it's a good one, of course. Like many men of his stature, wealth and age, Mr. O appears to have proven that, given the choice between Elderly, Shut-in and Spinsterish vs. Young, Blond and Nubile, he will choose Young, Blond and Nubile every time.

But, sadly for you, the Young, Blond and Nubile he will choose appears to be of the feminine persuasion.

It is for this reason, and this reason alone, that, despite your empty posturings, I continue to regard you as a comrade...someone who is not in opposition to me, but actually sitting by my side at the counter of that clean, well-lit, Edward Hopperesque all-night lunch counter known as "The Romantic Rejects' Cafe."

Pass me the sugar, will you? I want to spill some on the Formica and write obscene messages in it for the guy behind the counter to find later.

[Kurovski]

391. I will not submit that document to The Gay Agenda.

This is out of respect for our long-standing history of camaraderie in horn-dogging Mr. Olbermann, BerryBush.

The Gay Agenda is a powerful force that would perhaps misinterpret your words as disrespect and denial of that which they have achieved.

Destroying heterosexual marriages and forcing government officials into public bathrooms against their will are but two achievements among thousands.

Read up on FDPNGC:

www.fabulouslydesignedproject4anewgaycentury.com

[Berry Cool]

397. Dayum! That IS fabulous!!!

I bow in deference to your superior fabulosity!!!!

[Kurovski]

400. It is The Gay Agenda you speak of here.

Your deference and understanding may now yet bring you all you desire.

Resist not that which is inevitable. In a very real way, we're Hillary, but with better shoes and basic biology as the driving force behind us.

And a Mark Penn would be running only orders in from the deli--if that.

Regards,

[AtomicKitten]

201. K&R

and so it is written

[Buzz Clik]

202. Man, you need a chemical adjustment.

"Hillary can still win if noboby counts the delegates"?

Say goodnight, Gracie.

;)

[Patchuli]

203. Oh bs...

Hillary needs to drop out. If she cared about this country and our party, she would. Her 'Rovian' antics remind me simply of why I would never choose her for anything. It's all about HER. She showed massive disloyalty to the Democratic party with her snarky remarks flattering the repub candidate just to get at Obama. She showed us exactly what she's made of...

I'd rather be on the side of the folks that are "dead to you" as they all contribute much more to progressive causes than your 'Corporate Queen' does.

[Wetzelbill]

210. satire, my friend, satire

:)

[Patchuli]

280. Oh...

oops. Oh well, I did need to get that off my chest. I am so freakin' tired of the HRC show!

[donheld]

344. The majority of us are

Yes we want the votes counted, but we really really really want that woman to just go.
The longer she waits the farther we want her to go.

[Wetzelbill]

346. not a fan of the 3am wakeup call, I see

:)

I tell you what has blown me away, is her continuing to say that she and McCain each bring a lifetime of experience, while Obama brings a speech. I love Hillary in many ways, I even tend to agree with her a touch more on certain domestic issues, like health care, but the fodder she has given the Republicans in the general election is inexcusable.

[Patchuli]

389. She would be a great VP for McInsane

since they are both hawks.

I liked what one of the Mooks said on Stephanie Miller the other day re: that stoopit commercial. How come the phone rang like SIX times and NO ONE was picking it up! Oh wait, that could describe the present misAdministration on 9/10/01!

[greiner3]

205. And your point is?

Go Obama! :rofl:

[DrZeeLit]

209. Funniest. Post. Ever. Seriously. I'd say McFunny, but then.. I'd be dead to you

p.s. Did Bill <swoon> (well, you said it not moi).. did Bill REALLY go on Rush last week?
Did I miss that?

Nah.
Not in this universe.
Nah.

See.
I. Just. Don't. Know. Anymore.

It's like riding a Tilt-A-Whirl.

But thanks for the laugh track.

[backscatter712]

212. Excellent snark!

I love it!

[lakeguy]

MATH is dead to me....

go HRC!!!!! I never liked the democratic (oops, i mean democrat) party anyway and mccain (bomb bomb iran) would make a super great president. way better than any dem, yes!!!!11

/sarcasm

[melody]

213. If you'll give up the world for your female Jesus, then you define yourself, not them

I don't care who goes against Obama, I'm not about to hate them or dislike them for it.

[xxqqqzme]

214. nice piece of satire - if not

don't forget to change your voter registration to 'R'.

[Zambero]

222. If not, you're the WORST person in the WORLD!!!

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[malletgirl02]

218. Kick

I like good satire. :)

[Zambero]

219. I just hate having to choose between being a racist and a sexist

Let's see, if I just hadn't voted this time around I could have claimed to be neither. However, the ultimate decision will still be made by an unsavory bunch of sexists and racists.

MEA CULPA!!!

[Niche]

220. This dead- to- me- now- damn- sexist-Hillary-haters list is...

:rofl:

Wow, just... wow...

:smoke:

[Kurovski]

226. bvar22, this OP of yours is more like an event than a post.

I think it's a real turning point. The pot has finally boiled over.

Because of you, HRC can really win this thing.

It is truly spectacular. :thumbsup:

[stillcool]

229. excellent!!

[ingac70]

232. K&R

:rofl:

[No Blood for Hubris]

233. Actually, Keith Olbermann and most of those others ARE dead to me now.

So interesting when satire merges with reality.

Keep whining, Hillary-haters. You counted us out, but you were wrong. Cry about it.

[Tarheel_Dem]

250. oh goody...another Clintonite who can't do basic math....

:eyes:

[jeff30997]

263. "So interesting when satire merges with reality."

When reality is so fucked up anything is believable.Now excuse me I have to go feed my Yeti.

[lisainmilo]

234. At first I was shocked.....feeling a bit like

:freak: Thanks for the laughs... Great tongue in cheek!

:rofl:

[mcollier]

240. Keep Smiling Hillary

Just like Huckabee, In it to spin it....

[HughBeaumont]

241. Rec # 185!!

hee hee hee . . .

[drobert_bfm]

242. WOW what an idiotic rant!

"if nobody counts the delegates"? Isn't that the very point of the primaries?

If you don't like the system, join another party, or try to change the system. Don't piss on people who can count. Simple fact is that, without a change in rules, Hillary cannot win. It's simple arithmetic; I know that might be too hard for some people, but the Democratic party is SUPPOSED to be the party of reason.

Stating that anyone who has an issue with Hillary is a "sexist Hillary hater" is not very different from Bush saying that anyone who has a problem with the war is an America-hater, isn't it? I've been listening to all the people you say are sexist Hillary haters for quite some time now; you're WAY OUT OF LINE here. None of these people have made the slightest comment that could be interpreted that way, except by someone who desperately wants to paint anyone who does not support Hillary with all their heart as a "sexist Hillary hater".

And frankly, comments like this make me wonder: is Hillary really any different from Bush? Or is it just some of her supporters that are exactly like Bush supporters? As a rational human being, I believe (and hope) that it's the latter. I'd rather think that Hillary is a tad more rational than you.

[provis99]

249. its SATIRE, you ding dong.

[Barrymores Ghost]

291. Satire much? Didn't think so.

:eyes:

[racaulk]

364. Satire.

[WritingIsMyReligion]

367. Recognizing satire helps.

:rofl:

[Lost-in-FL]

244. I don't know what to think of this thread...

:dilemma: is this a joke... I'm a little slow.

[leveymg]

245. Nominated for Snark Hall of Fame

[rucky]

251. You SO had me going!

:rofl:

[Tarheel_Dem]

252. bvar...you've outdone yourself with this one

:rofl: :applause: :rofl:

[me b zola]

253. Well played!

:applause:





K&R #183!

[fightthegoodfightnow]

255. THE ONLY PEOPLE USING RACE OR SEX AS A REASON FOR NOT WINNING

....... are the Clinton folks.

It's really sad.

[fightthegoodfightnow]

257. WELL YOU JUST KEEP ON SUPPORTING RUSH

Did it ever enter your mind that the ONLY reason Rush supports Hillary is because he thinks McCain has a better shot at winning if she does regardless of the sound bites he says to the contrary.

You go ahead and trust Rush Limbaugh and characterize him as not being sexist.

Talk about DENIAL.

[racaulk]

363. The entire OP is satire.

:hi:

[jeff30997]

258. "like anyone cares about MATH"

Isn't that a Bush quote ?:rofl:

Grr! I'm so angry !

Mother Teresa is dead to me now.

And...What ? She's dead to you too ?

Well that's the only thing we have in common I guess.

Good night and good luck. :sarcasm:

[dchill]

259. Oh - I get it now!

I was starting to wonder how Randi, Stephanie, and Rachel could be woman haters - not that any of the men on your list are, either. Hillarhoids can't see the immense credibility of the combined names on the not-big-fans-of-Hillary list of liberal personalities and pols. It must be a vast left-wing conspiracy!

[immoderate]

260. That made me laugh!

Well done.

"I used to respect Keith..." -- Classic! :rofl:

--IMM

[OwnedByFerrets]

261. Go watch Billo then....you

deserve each other.:sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :rofl: :rofl:

[jeff30997]

264. DOH !!!

Go ahead and sing:

"Babe,
I got you babe,I got you babe..."

I deserve it. :)

[VotesForWomen]

267. some of us were never groupies of those folks in the first place. nt

[Name removed]

268. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[texshelters]

269. What did they say?

If you are going to make accusations and wish to sway anyone, please give us links or quotes instead of unsubstantiated accusations.

Thanks for your cooperation.

If it's just that they say things about Senator Clinton that you don't like, then this is a sad post.

I teach math, I care and so should everyone else. If people were better at math, maybe we wouldn't have the mortgage crisis, massive personal and national debt and the fear of taxes when the rich are getting huge breaks, that we do.

Long live math, Friends For Fractions!

Tex

[ScreamingMeemie]

271. This is satire...and it's scary how many people have fallen for it.

And a little bit sad too.

[CitizenLeft]

275. I have to admit, I was almost fooled too...

until that final declaration in LARGE BOLD TYPE. LOL.

The problem is, there are a number of people here who have said those things in all seriousness. That's what's really scary.

[Divine Discontent]

292. a majority of folks on DU are brilliant

but, much like the populace, people are easily deceived or fooled, better yet, in this case. It's pretty much a given, posts with these kind of comments are always 'gotcha' types. I enjoyed it, but it was not shocking, other than the excellent closing line! HA

[texshelters]

411. I of all people

should read the whole message before responding. There are people who think exactly like the first part though and I was getting tired of it...

Tex

[GoneOffShore]

273. I think you should check out this McCain video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_y2j6vsQ4I

It's going to make you feel better.

[Az_lefty]

279. too funny! K&R

[dflprincess]

281. Bvar - you scared me for a second

but I figured things out after a few sentences. Great piece.

[Barrymores Ghost]

288. BRILLIANT!!!!!! PROUDLY K&R!!!! n/t

[Swamp Rat]

294. ... what's goin' on?

:rofl:

[DiverDave]

295. Gawd, I'm sooo gullible

I get it...fun stuff

[orleans]

296. OMG! I THOUGHT YOU WERE SERIES!11!

i was gonna ask you if you had any friends left.

over 200 recommendations, dear. apparently you still have LOTS of friends!1!!11

just for you:

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[Gold Metal Flake]

297. We were amused.

Laughing at the clueless is almost as fun as the OP. Happy to be R#212.

[WatchWhatISay]

299. Night of the Living Dead

[pleah]

300. I feel sorry for all you that hate Mrs. Clinton that much.

Read your history, and try to remember how good we had it when Mr. Clinton was President.
What the hell is wrong with you people. Has DU been taken over with RW trolls?!

[ACanadianLiberal]

304. The problem on DU at this moment is not RW trolls.

Hardly can we sense any good rationality behind the Obama loving and Clinton hatred. That way, this DU platform looks very similar to the freeper site, similar language like lots of one-liners, big hatred-charged and bully words.

If you replace Bush with Obama in those freepers' Bush-worshipping sentences, you might not see too much difference.

These days hardly can we find a site supporting Clinton. That might reflect a harsh reality for Clinton campain, or a generation gap. I found two sites, talkleft (talkleft.com) and Taylor Marsh (http://www.taylormarsh.com/), are still largely rallying behind Clinton. You don't need 100% agree with them, but you can hear the rational voices over there.

I guess, this is DU style, largely relying on participants' self-displine.

So many times, I try to understand why those freepers behave like that, and I really would like to believe that just is RW specific. Now I am thinking of something all human being share. I really want to know what this is, but only thing I know is that once condition permits, we all could behave as ugly as those freepers, myself included.

[pleah]

305. I have tried very hard to resist these treads, but the venom against a fellow democrat

is just beyond belief. Especially when they have done alot to help the people of our country.

[No Blood for Hubris]

318. You're right. But there are more pro-Clinton sites than you're

citing.

I don't know why the Obamites sound like freepers and behave like freepers, but they do. They're all over Kos and americablog and huffpo and many many sites I used to frequent, and just don't any more. I'm here, but this is getting worse, too.

Sort of like ebola, all this liberal vitriol.

Ought to be an oxymoron -- but it isn't.

[LibertyorDeath]

321. talkleft LOL she's a DINO a DLC

talkleft my ass....

[jgraz]

349. Wow, you've really got DU all figured out. In only 87 posts, no less.

:eyes:

[Danger Mouse]

301. Very well stated. I don't know if I want to read this thread....

as I am afraid that the comments herein will be very depressing.
I agree, though...Hillary cannot win. Not without destroying the party.

[autorank]

303. Swiftian! You got me...very very very clever with a clear point! K*R

[happygoluckytoyou]

307. W00T!!! i hope all democrats will unite behind our candidate

[BoneDaddy]

308. You are dead to me now

Hehe

[ACanadianLiberal]

317. Olberman not dead, just another side of him revealed

I love Olberman, even still now with a little bit disappointment. I am thinking of that involvement in politics might not be a healthy thing to do.

Everything in the politics is in binary mode. You are either bad or good, 0 or 1. That is why Olberman is either alive (1) or dead (0); why president Clinton was one time praised as the first black president by black(1), now seen a racist by so many people (0); and why Obama is either unqualified to be president (0), or has already been seen as the best president in the history(1); and why Hillary has been praised for her dedication to Children warefare and education (1), now is even not welcome by children (the girl in the 3:00am red phone ad) and youth (0).

Everybody who watched through those seasons of Survival might be able to see through all of this mess. Everybody takes everything (really everything) in his/her advantage whenever it is convenient.

Now I see no difference between Obama and Clinton. They all have done something quite damaging to the Dem Party. They are all determined to stike for the final nomination of the party. Perhaps this time we all have been played into the R's hands. A sad reality, isn't it?

Don't just blame Clinton. Obama should take half share of it at least.

Let's calm down to wait the voting business plays out itself. That might be the best way to stop the bleeding.

[SlowDownFast]

320. It's time for the you-know-what....

Edit: Great :sarcasm:

[Psyop Samurai]

323. LOL... Don't do that! When I saw the headline, I thought, OMG...

Keith must really have gone 'round the bend somehow or other - bvar's one of the most sensible people on here. Then I started reading, and for a minute I was like, OMG, bvar's gone 'round the bend! Very naughty of you. hehe..

:spank:

[ClayZ]

324. Wooooot! K and R

:rofl:

[Swamp Rat]

326. Here ya go bvar22:

:D







DUers are so funny! ALL of you!! :rofl:

[olkaz]

327. Can I be dead to you now too?

Because that is one awesome freaking club. Love 'em all.

[Zhade]

328. Indeed.

Awesome post.

[Horse with no Name]

330. What seems to escape some of you haters

is that we don't NEED fox, drudge, politico, et al anymore.
We have MSNBC to carry the water and what a fine job they are doing.
We don't even need sites that shall-not-be-named anymore...because we have DU.

When your blinders come off--and they will as soon as they start flaying YOUR GUY...don't expect anyone to be sympathetic to your cause.
Personally, I'll laugh my ass off at the karma and kismet all rolled into one fucking neat little package.
When you refuse to stand for lies and smears against ANY candidate...then your own candidate gets a fucking target on his back.
And I do not care. One whit.
When a republican colleague tells me they can't cross over and vote for obama because he's a muslim--I'll just say "I understand".
I will NOT defend your guy one more time. And I am not the only one that feels this way.

[Kurovski]

341. We're all Freepers now!

Shades of 9-11's "We're all Americans now".

Hillary has already told us to support John McCain if she loses,
so what's the big deal here? :shrug:

[Horse with no Name]

350. You flat out lie

It isn't what she said and you know it. One of two things is at play here

1. You are trying to persuade some idiots that it is true
2. You are one of the idiots that someone else persuaded

Either way...you are a liar. Intended or not.

[Kurovski]

383. I know what implications are.

I know what being untrue to Party is, I know how Clinton plays with the language, I know of the political rhetorical dodges and games that have been around for too long now, I know all this despite my idiocy.

Go ahead and tell me again what I am. Because lover, only you define me!

[CC]

333. Look at you starting trouble.

:hi: Great post. Getting too much of that peace & quiet and have to start trouble by being to smart for half the people replying?:rofl:

Give the kitties a scratch behind the ears from me and we need you to post some pictures in the photo-group sometime.

[bvar22]

379. Hi, CC.

Undoubtedly, most of the negative replies merely responded to the thread title, and did NOT read the OP or any of the thread. I generally don't even bother to open to threads titled like mine.


I will certainly give the kitties a scratch for you if you return the greeting to all your critters!

My dial up connection has gotten so bad that it is almost impossible to do the Photo Group, but I'm still taking photos.

:hi:

[dmr]

335. Whew! Now I'm glad I opened this thread!

Nearly pee'd my pants over your big bold statement at the end, too!
"Hillary CAN still WIN
if nobody counts the delegates!"

I can't take my knotted stomach much longer. This thread, well, pretty near the whole thread, made my day.

Thank you for the truth in levity.

[Stardust]

336. And Mike Malloy! DEAD to me Now, too!

:hi:

Frankly, I feel a bit creeped out now surrounded by all these damn deal people.

[meowomon]

342. Count me in too!

I'm only voting for Obama 'cause he's a man and God knows women can't do anything without one of them!

[democrank]

345. But...but...

What about Poland?

[Kurovski]

410. Poland is DEAD to us!!

[longship]

348. In other words...

Anybody who does not support your particular candidate of choice is... as you say... DEAD.

Hmmm. Interesting.

[humbled_opinion]

352. Oh my...

Catch the Fever.....

[0007]

353. And the biggest issue is YOU my friend. How dare you insult

my friends and Democratic Underground? JUst because you are a woman hater, no need to take it out on us. Why don't you just go quietly and show a little class instead of your stinking ass?

You are full of vile smegma and the worst kind of sewer gas. Then again maybe your an artificial, underground conduit for carrying off sewage for the other party? Who knows? It won't work my friend. (Hope J. McCain doesn't mind me using his language?)

But why first thing in the morning, you wanna throw around your shit with foul smelling filthy smegma?

I indeed think you need a girl friend. All wanks need a girl, huh?

Receiving this special Wanker award is NOT a complimentarily jester.

[Kurovski]

396. STOP ATTACKING SMEGMA!!

It's sexist!!!

[Patsy Stone]

401. ...

:spray:

[GeorgeGist]

356. So it comes down to this?

McCain and Clinton are clearly WRONG, ispso facto Obama can fly on hope alone and there's no need for anyone to vote.

[Highway61]

357. delete

[pajjr]

358. Can't even get along with Hillary supporters

And you guys think you will win over Republicans. Maybe Obama is great its just his supporters that are haters.

[joeprogressive]

360. Why isn't Oprah a sexist too? n/t

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

361. Brilliant!!

[Bette Noir]

362. There are options

You don't have to limit yourself to Rush Limbaugh. Tucker Carlson and Pat Buchanan have also been very supportive of Hillary's campaign. I'll never forget how Buchanan gushed, after the first debate, "She looks so Presidential."

[Kurovski]

408. Sadly, Tucker Carlson has been cancelled.

Those damn Obamatrons, they'll destroy every good thing in the world if we don't keep complaining about them.

[MadBadger]

365. I'm gonna hide this thread. It is shameful to see it on the greatest page.

[stevenleser]

369. I think it is sarcasm

But I cant be sure ;-)

[Tarheel_Dem]

394. calm down hnmnf....

bvar22 is one of the good ones, just pointing out the idiocy we are now faced with. He didn't use the "sarcasm" thingie, but please reread the post. And read upthread, you'll find that it really is satire.

[Froward69]

368. The RULES are about counting DELEGATES

It is not sexist to point that out. nor is it sexist to insist upon following the rules. To be truly SEXIST would be changing the rules to accommodate Hillary.

it is one thing to never give up. It is another to insist on changing the rules just because she is a woman.

[the grey area]

370. wow...is this a real thread? Seriously, no one can be this crazy!

All of these people you have complained about are more worried about the dems taking the Whitehouse than which candidate it is. Clinton has turned nasty and nobody wants to see it. She's disgusting and all of these political pundits do not want the dems to be disgusting, they want optimism and honor. Clinton offers neither. Now take your meds.

[racaulk]

405. The OP was supposed to be satire. That was fairly obvious to most of us.

:crazy:

[the grey area]

371. wow...is this a real thread? Seriously, no one can be this crazy!

All of these people you have complained about are more worried about the dems taking the Whitehouse than which candidate it is. Clinton has turned nasty and nobody wants to see it. She's disgusting and all of these political pundits do not want the dems to be disgusting, they want optimism and honor. Clinton offers neither. Now take your meds.

[Berry Cool]

374. I believe we have some more people who need to take their satire pills.

And oh, by the way, I don't care what Alanis says, rain on your wedding day isn't ironic, it's just a bummer.

[the grey area]

378. ..or a black fly in your chardonnay

...I am having trouble distinguishing the Clinton loonies from the purely sarcastic at heart...

[Berry Cool]

398. A black fly in your Chardonnay is DEFINITELY not ironic.

It's just a sign that next year, you shouldn't start cottaging in the Muskokas until at LEAST July.

[TwilightGardener]

388. I can't believe how many people don't get this. It's almost as funny as the OP.

[milkyway]

402. My wife is DEAD to me now!

Another sexist Hillary Hater!

[StevieM]

407. But you're lying, remember?

x

[not_too_L8]

409. Don't forget Bill Maher...n/t

[high density]

412. How did I miss this thread for two days?

Hilarious!!

[redqueen]

413. That's funny.

Well done.

[billyskank]

414. Haha. The sad thing is

it wasn't until I read this that I knew for sure it was a joke: "Hillary CAN still WIN if nobody counts the delegates!"

[Popol Vuh]

415. Oh Brother......

Seriously, you sound just like my nephew when he doesn't get what he wants and stomping away screams at my brother "I hate you!"


:nopity:

[grantcart]

419. it was satire

[Kurovski]

416. I think I have a hangover from this thread.

What a wild party.

[better tomorrow]

417. me, too on the hangover....I like Keith, but....

I don't want to read all the way through this thread. Will someone please recap for me, pretty please?

[Kurovski]

418. An impossible task...

but rest assured the OP is satirical and so close to reality that it's somewhat difficult to tell that it is. The consensus is that it's brilliantly done.

As for the thread: A good deal of silliness, fighting, and some good conversation, with a few facts in there somewhere.

The usual.