****Official Wyoming Caucus Thread****

[stop the bleeding]

I figured it might be good to have one thread today dedicated to news, updates etc from Wyoming. We really don't know how this Democratic electorate is gonna vote/caucus today. The MSM says it will go for Obama but that is an assumption not really based on any concrete past experience.

Please discuss.

[alteredstate]

1. Kicked n/t

[Atman]

2. Is it open, or just for Democrats?

If it's open, I'd expect a heavy turnout of R's for Hillary. There aren't that many Dems in Wyoming to begin with. I'm sure the Republicans would love to muck it up further for us by helping to keep Clinton strung along.

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[Nitrogenica]

6. If they're righties I think they had to register as Democrats by

February 22nd, so this may not have the impact that Rush had in Texas.

[goldcanyonaz]

10. Dick Morris instructed Repugs to vote Obama in TX. Guess thems good Repugs then, right?

[cali]

11. And Rush Limbaugh who has an audience several thousand times

larger than Morris' instructed repugs to vote for Hillary. But we know you just love repugs and prefer McCain to Obama, like all good hillbots.

[goldcanyonaz]

17. Cali, no proof would ever satisfy you, you're one of the most hardened shills around here.

[cali]

40. Actually, unlike you and your unfettered adulation for dear hill

I have plenty of problems with my candidate. You are the one twisting and shilling with every breath, dear. You can't address anything with even a scintilla of honesty. It's all Obama bad, Hillary a saint with hillbots like you. I don't even know if you'll vote for Obama if he's the nominee. I, of course, have made it perfectly clear that I'll vote for Hill if she is.

You're engaged in classic projection. And you avoided my point about Limbaugh- but not adroitly.

[grantcart]

13. Its one thing to spend a few minutes and vote in a cross over

its quite another to actually go to a caucus and stand up in front of your friends that all know you and do it.

Therefore I do not expect Republicans to go to a caucus and vote in large numbers.

There maybe some Republicans who sincerely want Obama to be the nominee and will show up.

[goldcanyonaz]

8. Yeah, Repugs can cross over and vote for Obama.

But, they're are cuddly friends when they vote for him.

[Windy]

12. Wow... unreal. There is a lot of data out there that the Rush factor put HRC over the top in Texas

not the reverse.

And that fact that you can support this self serving power hungry scorched earth policy monster and yes, that is what she is speaks volumes for your character!

This election should be about the issues, not win at all costs.

Funny, even with counting florida, Obama is still up in pledged delegates and with consideration to superdelegate and is still up in the popular vote. In other words, he's winning. Try and get your head around that one. Despite her gutter tactics and the tactics of the right wing, he is still on top!!!

REAL CLEAR POLITICS ELECTION 2008
Democrats Obama Clinton
Total Delegates 1581 1460
Pledged Delegates 1371 1218
Popular Vote 13,000,655 12,411,705
Popular Vote (w/FL) 13,576,869 13,282,691

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/

[rosetta627]

26. 'Cept that Obama won TX, not Hillary

http://www.kvii.com/news/news_story.aspx?id=103982

Don't repeat the lies.

[Drunken Irishman]

3. When will we know the outcome? Luckily, Wyoming has a population smaller than Salt Lake.

So it shouldn't take too long to get the results.

[thewiseguy]

4. I saw that the last polls there close 6 pm ET

[Drunken Irishman]

9. So 4 here? Lame, I wanted results soon.

[Pirate Smile]

15. We should get some for specific caucuses earlier.

There are 23 county caucuses.

Convening at 8amPST / 9MST / 10CST / 11EST:
Albany – 25 delegates
Fremont (til 1pm MST) – 23 delegates
Goshen (til noon MST) – 7 delegates
Laramie – 55 delegates
Natrona - 43 delegates
Sublette – 4 delegates
Uinta – 11 delegates
Total – 168 delegates

Convening at 8:30amPST / 9:30MST / 10:30CST / 11:30EST:
Hot Springs (til noon MST) – 4 delegates
Niobrara – 1 delegate
Total – 5 delegates

Convening at 9amPST / 10MST / 11CST / noonEST:
Campbell (til 4pm MST) – 17 delegates
Carbon (til 2pm MST) – 10 delegates
Converse – 7 delegates
Crook – 4 delegates
Park – 16 delegates
Platte – 6 delegates
Sweetwater – 24 delegates
Washakie – 5 delegates
Total – 89 delegates

Convening at 10amPST / 11MST / noonCST / 1EST:
Lincoln – 8 delegates
Total – 8 delegates

Convening at 1pmPST / 2MST / 3CST / 4EST:
Big Horn – 6 delegates
Johnson – 4 delegates
Sheridan (til 6pm MST) – 18 delegates
Weston – 4 delegates
Total – 32 delegates

Convening at 3pmPST / 4MST / 5CST / 6EST:
Teton – 17 delegates
Total – 17 delegates

[1776Forever]

36. Hi Irishman! Always good to see you on the board!

:hi:

[tekisui]

16. Are you sure it is 6 EST, not 6 MST?

[Cant trust em]

5. Obama's assumed win is based on past results in the campaign

He's done better in smaller caucus states that have been tinged with red. Such has been the pattern.

[stop the bleeding]

7. Here is a great thread loaded with info here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4941707&mesg_id=4941707

[Pirate Smile]

14. Here is a great thread on this at Daily Kos -

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/3/8/61411/81462/867/472032

[stop the bleeding]

18. wow thanks - that has some additional info that I was not aware of

especially about the add on

[stop the bleeding]

19. early reporting shows O 57% to HRC 41%, with 26% reporting

http://www.politico.com/

[grantcart]

20. kick

[jenmito]

21. Why does Faux say 30% is in already? Oh-and Obama is winning 58%-40%.

[Zachstar]

24. Some news agencies get it faster than others.

Tho I hope Obama can maintain a 60-40 lead. Let us hope this continues to grow for Obama!

[jenmito]

27. Thanks, but now I think they mean it's re: just one set of caucuses (I think they have 4 different

caucus times/closings) because next to the results (it's only 451 votes to 311 votes) it says, "Next polls close: [in over four hours)

[TeamJordan23]

22. According to Slate Calculator, if we can get up to 63%; we can net +4 delegates. nm

[grantcart]

29. the slate calculator is only a rough guess and it has nothing to do

with caucuses. I emailed them about it and I was surprised when they emailed back. They acknowledged that on a state by state basis the calculator will not be very accurate but over many states it will only vary by about 2%

[writes3000]

23. You know what's so amazing to me?

Watching the results come in now. Now Obama's ahead 58% to 40%.

I just flashed back to the MSNBC video with the predictions of the Obama camp.

Back right around Super Tuesday #1, they predicted Obama would win 60% to 40%. Back in early Feb!

I cannot believe how accurate they have been. It's amazing to me.

[rosetta627]

25. Thanks for starting the thread stop the bleeding

Here we go all over again.
Hope there's no diebold over there.

[grantcart]

28. its a caucus no diebold possible

[rosetta627]

30. Doh! Silly me. Thanks.

Guess they'll have to cheat TX style.

[writes3000]

31. Now it's 56% to 42% with 35% reporting. n/t

[jefferson_dem]

32. NOTE: The Kos diary linked to earlier says the %s being reported are not relevant.

This is definitely the best site i've seen, for those of us looking to make sense of what's happening and what it means.

...

Here ---> http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/3/8/61411/81462/867/472032

Again, the 59-41 numbers you are seeing after 7 counties have reported are NOT the relevant numbers. The relevant numbers are the number of delegates each county sends to the state convention. Right now Obama has 62.8% of the delegates apportioned to the state convention - not 59%... this is an important distinction that most seem to be missing...

Looks like CNN is the best place to figure this out - you have to scroll your mouse over the Wyoming map of counties with 100% reporting. Then drop uncommitted votes below 15%, then figure out what Obama's Votes/(Obama's Votes + Clinton's Votes) is, multiplied by the number of state delegates for the county.

Niobrara (1): Obama 0.5, Clinton 0.5!
Crook (4): Obama 2, Clinton 2
Goshen (7): goes Obama 3.5, Clinton 3.5 (per state party site, strange)
Hot Springs (4): looks like Obama 2, Clinton 1, Uncommitted 1
Sublette(4) : Obama 3, Clinton 1
Uinta (11): Obama 8, Clinton 3
Campbell (17): Obama 11, Clinton 6 (JUST over the 10.5 threshold! Excellent work, wmandevi!)

Running Total (48 of 319 in): Obama 30, Clinton 17, Uncommitted 1

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/3/8/61411/81462/867/472032

[writes3000]

33. Fantastic Info! Really important point to understand today. Thanks. n/t

[stop the bleeding]

34. thanks, thats a great breakdown on the current county by county

situation

[democrattotheend]

35. Nice! Just jumped to 66 O, 33 C

That's what I want to see!

[malik flavors]

37. (O) 66% - (C )33%

[grantcart]

39. with 43% of the vote in

[1776Forever]

41. This % pay out was on KOS -

If Obama wins by 75% or higher: Obama +7
If Obama wins by 64%-74%: Obama +5
If Obama wins by 50%-63%: Obama +3

[Eurobabe]

43. holy shit!!! gobama!

[rodeodance]

53. 58-41

[jefferson_dem]

38. Looking good on Intrade, Obama fans. He's at 95 to win and going up still.

Hillary is a 2% to win and plummeting.

If you're into the markets... http://www.intrade.com/jsp/intrade/contractSearch/

[1776Forever]

44. That is really neat - If you have the time how much does one share cost for Obama?

:hi:

[jenmito]

46. Do you know what the numbers started at before today? n/t

[jefferson_dem]

54. If I recall, it was like 92-8(ish).

Hillary didn't have too far to fall before she hit the floor...

For what it's worth, Obama is at 95% in MS too.

[jenmito]

60. Great! Thanks for the reply.

:hi:

[Kukesa]

63. It's worth a lot! Thanx. n/g

[yellerpup]

42. Kick this!

Keep it coming.

[Madam Mossfern]

47. While I'm glad, I will caution my fellow Obama supporters not to gloat

I know how I felt when Hillary won her states and some of her supporters gloated. I will not do that.

OK, so I'm the one who can't stand to watch the losing team's locker room interviews in sport.

[yellerpup]

48. I'm kicking this thread to keep it visible.

"Keep it coming" refers to the voting information and statistics. How do you get gloating from that? Just asking...

[Madam Mossfern]

59. I'm not saying that you're gloating

I was just trying to preempt and gloating that may happen. Sorry if I confused you.
I get F- in communication skills. :(

[yellerpup]

62. Aw, don't beat yourself up over that.

Thanks for clarifying. You ain't even close to F-....:hug:

[stop the bleeding]

45. CNN said that the Cheyenne caucus had to take a lunch break since the

turn out was so huge

A LUNCH BREAK TO VOTE???? that might be a first

[grantcart]

49. I thought I heard Fox said that 2500 had come to a caucus that they

had expected 500

[stop the bleeding]

50. CNN reporting it now nt

[adoraz]

51. who else still needs to report?

[stop the bleeding]

52. here:

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/state/#WY


scroll down to map and hold mouse over county(s)

[stop the bleeding]

55. O58% H41% with 70% reporting

:beer:

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/state/#WY

[Drunken Irishman]

56. I like! Wish he could get it up to 65%, but a 17 point blowout is nice.

Especially since she campaigned there!

[Scurrilous]

57. Kick

:kick:

[Bullet1987]

58. CNN still not calling it for Obama even though

70% is in.

[Bullet1987]

61. Obama: 59% - Clinton: 40% 78% in...

[rainbow4321]

65. Pretty safe to say they will put all their news people in the HRC-won counties

and not go near Obama-won counties.

I can hear it now: "and in the county with ONE delegate up for grabs: 10 people voted for HRC and 10 voted for Obama..WHAT will Obama do NOW???????"
And, yes, that is how the 1 delegate county broke down in votes according to the CNN interactive map).

[caseycoon]

64. Kick n/t

[Scurrilous]

66. Kick

:kick:

[clevbot]

68. Obama is

just adding to his pledged delegate lead, that will not be overturned by the supers. Hillary should drop out soon.

[Voice for Peace]

67. kick

[stop the bleeding]

69. O59% H40% with 78% reporting

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/state/#WY

[caseycoon]

70. Kick again :o)