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BigBearJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 11:46 PM
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Has everyone here forgotten that JOHN KERRY asked McCain to be his running mate in 2004?
Hmmm.... I don't remember so much vitriol being spewn over his being nice to McCain.
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Peggy Day Donating Member (859 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 11:47 PM
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1. Did I miss something in 2004? nt
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BigBearJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 12:01 AM
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10. McCain Asked About Kerry’s V.P. Offer
NEW ORLEANS — ­Senator John McCain got a question at a town hall meeting this morning in Atlanta that he never has addressed publicly before: Since Senator John Kerry, Democrat of Massachusetts, had approached Mr. McCain about being his running mate for the White House in 2004, would Mr. McCain now return the favor?

Mr. McCain, the presumptive Republican nominee, who has long been viewed by many conservatives as a Democratic sympathizer, quickly said no — and just as quickly said he had never considered sharing the ticket in 2004 with Mr. Kerry, a friend of his.

In May 2004, in a Times article about prominent Democrats who wanted Mr. McCain to be Mr. Kerry’s running mate, Mr. McCain was asked by The Times if he had ever discussed the offer of the vice presidential spot, even casually, with Mr. Kerry. Mr. McCain paused for a moment and then said “no, we really haven’t.’’

But a June 2004 article in The Times reported that Mr. Kerry made his first direct overtures to Mr. McCain about the vice presidential spot about three weeks after Mr. Kerry locked up the nomination that March, according to a person who had discussed the issue with both men.

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/03/07/mccain-asked-about-kerrys-vp-offer/
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 11:48 PM
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2. Did he endorse McCain over Dean or Edwards in the primary? nt
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Hieronymus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 12:15 AM
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18. No, I think Hillary is the first to endorse a member of the opposing party.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 04:20 AM
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31. There you go with "endorsing" crap again!
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Hieronymus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 07:41 PM
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34. See this definition of "Endorse" ...
en·dorse (n-dôrs) also in·dorse (n-)
To give approval of or support to, especially by public statement; sanction: endorse a political candidate. See Synonyms at approve.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 11:48 PM
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3. It probably never really happened, but there was more than enough
shit flying back & forth about it.
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 12:02 AM
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11. Well, according to McCain it happened.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 11:49 PM
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4. Did he? I don't know. That was the rumor. nt
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BigBearJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 12:04 AM
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14. The Times reported that Mr. Kerry made his first direct overtures to Mr. McCain about the VP spot
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 11:49 PM
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5. My understanding is that he wanted McCain to leave the GOP first.
Plus Kerry wasn't running second and trying to revive a crap campaign.
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jsmirman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 12:04 AM
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12. This is also part of why McCain is such a dreadful man
He based his whole persona on being Mr. Straight Talk, and you can't tell me that the McCain of 2008 resembles the McCain of 2004- and he certainly doesn't resemble the McCain of 2000.

To be both a panderer and a man who claims to be all about straight talk is to be a vile little man, indeed.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 11:51 PM
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6. Yes. The part where it never happened makes it easy to forget
Here's Kerry's side of the story.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVQEaUZDjiU

Now, can you point out where Kerry said McCain would be a much better President than one of his Democratic primary opponents? :shrug:
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 11:51 PM
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7. How did that
work out for him? :shrug:
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rwheeler31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 11:51 PM
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8. Nam respect
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 11:52 PM
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9. even if you want to believe that McCain was not running in 2004
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 12:04 AM
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13. Kerry Wasn't A Woman
Edited on Sat Mar-08-08 12:04 AM by Dinger
Lots of male "Dems" voting with with their d***s. It's not nearly as threatening having a black man in the White House as it is having a woman in the White House.
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DeadEyeDyck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 12:10 AM
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15. Kick N/T
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 12:11 AM
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16. No I have not forgotten, and if somebody wants to start an email campaign about this, be my guest
I hope this news is everywhere, cuz it pisses the hell out of conservatives.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 12:12 AM
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17. I don't think that was ever proven. nt
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earthlover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 12:19 AM
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19. I agree with you. I recall it was speculation
And there is a HUGE difference between CONSIDERING someone a VP possibility and ASKING someone to accept the VP. I don't think Kerry every asked him to be his VP.
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BigBearJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 12:48 AM
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26. In an interview TODAY, John McCain ADMITTED it
McCain: “I mean, it’s well known. Everybody knows. It’s been well chronicled a thousand times.
John Kerry asked if I would consider being his running mate.”

Bumiller: “Okay.”

McCain: “And I said categorically no, under no circumstances. That’s very well known.”

SOURCE: http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/03/07/743261.aspx
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 04:32 AM
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33. Oooh, McCain says it's so! It must be true!
It couldn't be that he's covering his neocon, fundie-receptive ass when it seems obvious to me that it was HIS side that probably contacted Kerry about the possibility, right?

Let's all bow down and worship Straight-talking Maverick Saint John McCain!
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BigBearJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 12:50 AM
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28. In an interview TODAY, John McCain ADMITTED it
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annie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 12:19 AM
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20. Did he really? i thought that was a rumor.
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 12:21 AM
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22. If he didn't, McCain would say so. (It is not in McCain's interest to claim that)
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 12:21 AM
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21. John Kerry never asked him. The idea was mostly floated in 04' by McCain's own people.
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BigBearJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 12:49 AM
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27. See response #26
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 02:44 AM
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29. It's a lie, seems like. Do you believe McCain? I'll find the quote.
Perhaps that's why McCain protested too much, and the media shut down, because they're not the media. :think:
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democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 12:26 AM
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23. Did Kerry say Bush was more qualified than Dean?
That would be the appropriate analogy.

I don't know whether he asked McCain to be his VP or not, but it's apples and oranges. There is a big difference between reaching across the aisle for a possible VP pick after securing the nomination and saying during the primary that your Republican opponent is more qualified to be president than the other candidate in your own party.
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 12:40 AM
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25. No... Gephardt had that covered.
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DeadEyeDyck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 12:39 AM
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24. this is an old trick
You alway offer your opponent and inferior role. This is so pate!
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Kool Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:27 AM
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30. Ooh! I love pate!
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 04:29 AM
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32. no he didn't
that's pure bullshit.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 07:44 PM
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35. link?
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