BREAKING: MSM Finally Admits Obama Won Texas

[bdamomma]

this seems awfully interesing.


http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/3/7/11339/50182/559/471347

[Colobo]

1. First NPR, then the rest,

[ChairmanAgnostic]

3. wrong. FIRST the NETROOTS, then NPR, then the rest

we are the ones keeping them on track and on their toes. Although I still feel bad that hillary got the monster jump and forced an unnecessary resignation.

[MindMatter]

40. And lets not forget, 10 days before TX

she had a big double digit lead.

That's the narrative we should be hearing about. Two variations of the story:

A) How did she manage to lost the big double digit lead?

B) How did all her millions of dollars of the "best" consultants get outsmarted and out-executed in Texas?

For a person who is making such a big deal about readiness to lead, she seem to have a lot of trouble with it.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

75. why do you think there is an attractive young, dead college blond on MSM?

As sad and horrible as it is (a friend's daughter was a close friend of the UNC student), the coverage seems to be overboard. The fact that 8 Israelis and 120 Palestinians died in the last 4 days seems almost an afterthought.
Or that pandemics are about to start in Iraq because of no sewage systems, no potable water, and no meds or docs.

So, I can see why the campaign news would concentrate on the firing/resignation of Power, instead of Wolfson, or the changing numbers in California and Texas.

[NightWatcher]

2. So Obama took 11 in a row, then 2 of 4, and now will take everything up to Pennsylvania

there's that pesky "momentum" thing again working for Obama

[KittyWampus]

17. doesn't matter if Obama's campaign doesn't get control of the media message

[Colobo]

21. He needs to force the MSM to declare him winner of the TX contest.

[CoffeeCat]

46. I agree... the media is kow towing to Hillary's....

...every whim. Anyone have any idea on why that might be?

Texas Democratic officials have said that Hillary wanted the Texas caucus
results stalled. So much so, that she threatened Texas officials that she
would sue if the results were released before they were certified. Every
single caucus result in this primary, has been released that evening--before
certification.

She could only pull off this delay with the media's cooperation. They played
her game, and allowed Clinton to position herself as a victorious uber-winner
with her visible celebrations. The media has barely mentioned the Texas caucus.

I also noticed that the media completely ignores Wyoming and Mississippi. They
talk about, "Pennsylvania the next contest" as if Wyoming and Mississippi do
not exist. Hillary would want those downplayed, because she knows she's going
to lose big time.

Why oh why is the media acting as Clinton's PR agency??????

[Hawkowl]

68. Because she is the corporate candidate

She is beholden to the defense contractors that own the MSM. She is Rupert Murdoch's back pocket. She is the preferred corporate whore. Therefore, all good working people need to oppose her.

I am an Edwards supporter and was firmly ( I thought unshakable ambivalent between O and HRC). Now, it is clear the MONSTER prefers McCain to Obama so she will never get my vote. EVER. PERIOD.

The Obama bumper sticker will not replace my Edwards sticker--but it will go nicely along side it.

Fuck her.

[txaslftist]

78. Where do you think Edwards is going to put his delegates?

[mojowork_n]

84. What a timeless, priceless, perfect question:

Why oh why is the media acting as Clinton's PR agency??????

• It's a business. In "Mass media/Communications", like any other business, King Profit Rules.
  

• Plus, journalists are outnumbered. There are many more people working in PR!
  

I learned that back in 1985, in the one 'journalism' course I ever took, at the University of Minnesota. The prof. was a foreigner from eastern europe. Until then, I'd always naively assumed that some sort of higher, moral/civil responsibility to 'truth and fairness' guided editorial policy. (As opposed to what took place on the "other" side of the Iron Curtain, or in dictatorships, or banana republics, or other less fortunate societies.)

I'm afraid that it's one of the last myths of American Exceptionalism, that too many people still believe that our journalists are always 'doing their best, to tell the truth'.

They only do that when they have to, or when it coincides with their bottom line.

Just ask Mary Mapes, Dan Rather, Gary Webb, and too many other people whose names we -- unfortunately -- don't know!

[K Gardner]

52. I absolutely agree with this.

[dbonds]

4. Her firewall didn't hold.

She went from a 20 point lead to loosing in 2 weeks. She has momentum alright, too bad is in the wrong direction.

[alphafemale]

5. WOOT!

:patriot:

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

6. So has Clinton called to congratulate him yet?

[me b zola]

19. She's still digging her way out from all of that confetti

Stage craft is hard werk. :silly:

[underpants]

20. No but she IS still considering him for a running mate

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4944428

[EmperorHasNoClothes]

36. That cartoon is PERFECT!

:rofl:

[underpants]

61. Yeah it is really good. Are you a football fan?

[dchill]

54. As always...

NOT.

[GOTV]

7. I wish people would be more clear with their headlines....

... He won because it looks like he got more delegates than Hillary. I expected an article saying that somehow, a recount or something, has given Obama the majority of votes.

Had the headline been "Obama wins more TX delegates than Clinton" I could have made a better decision about what to read.

[jakem]

12. more delegates = win

what part of the US election process is not clear on this point?!

[GOTV]

29. More delegates = Bush v. Gore style win. Obama still lost the TX primary.

[jakem]

33. more delegates= how the election process works

you cant play both sides here- clintons are whining for every delegate they can as well.

[GOTV]

34. My point stands - the headline could have been much clearer

[jakem]

37. stubborn, but incorrect. Obama did WIN texas.

[GOTV]

41. Headline could have been clear about the Bush v Gore style of "win"

[Bongo Prophet]

62. Headline aside, this is in NO WAY a "Bush v Gore style" win.

No supreme court, no lawsuits or recounts, no riots or delays or hanging chads or butterfly ballots.

Just the fact that it ain't over till the votes are counted.
And that means primary AND "caucus" votes.


The media did announce "victory" before the precinct conventions results were even reported, but they do that all the time.
They are clowns, and they treat us like children.

Everyone who knows politics knows this - it is about delegates.
Maybe it should always be about popular vote, electoral college should go away and there be no national convention at all - but that is not the reality of this election.

[nebula]

64. Hillary won the TX primary

through shameless fearmongering, swiftboating, deceit, etc.

Her ultimate defeat there is poetic justice.

[dchill]

53. MSM:But we're not talking about THAT right now!

Somebody called Hillary a MONSTER!!!!!

[anamandujano]

69. That just shows how happy their fully predicted caucus win made them.

:rofl:

[lapfog_1]

23. It's ALL about the delegates.

State wide totals for the candidates in primaries are meaningless numbers. There isn't a winner-take-all primary on the Democratic side. The MSM only reports that because it makes for more dramatic TV moments ("CNN has just called Texas for Hillary Clinton!!!").

But in this race, it's all about delegates. Sort of like the GE... in 2000 it would have been easy to "call" the US election for Gore... but it's not the popular vote that counts, it's the electoral college.

[GOTV]

30. And the headline could have been clear about that. n/t

[lapfog_1]

35. Doesn't have to be "clear about that"

Obama wins Texas. Period. Popular votes in primaries never mattered. Popular votes in districts and caucuses DO matter.

State wide totals should ALWAYS have been reported in terms of delegates won.

BTW, you do know that Texas Democratic party wanted to spend $66,000 so that the caucus results could have been reported early (they were known, but sat on, in a number of districts where HRC supporters ran the show in those districts). Guess who's surrogates shot down the "early reporting" idea... go on... guess.

She knew she was going to lose Texas.

[GOTV]

38. Doesn't HAVE to be relevant at all. It would be better if it were more clear n/t

[doublethink]

44. Okay Clinton gained more yards in the football game ......

but Obama scored more points by the time the game was over. Who won? I know silly sports analogy. But the way the system is set up that's just the way it is. :)

[Bongo Prophet]

63. That depends on what the meaning of the word "win" is.

Hillary wins the spin game in the early call of victory.
She also won the confetti game. It looked just like the National convention, didn't it? So there!

Delegates? Rules? Count all the votes before reporting?
Feh.

[papau]

8. Obama did not win Texas - but because of the over allocation to black areas of delegates and the use

of a second round of caucuses that screw the working man - less than half the voters in the primary were allowed to give Obama extra delegates.

Since Obama can not win without the Superdelegates, it means little.

[eleny]

24. The allocations were greater to areas voting more Democratic - not to "black areas"

But you knew that.

Playing the race card ought to be beneath you.

[truebrit71]

25. ROFL!!!!

:rofl:

Answer me this. Who got the most delegates from TX, Obama or HRC? Answer: Obama. Therefore the winner of the state was the one with the most delegates, and that would be Obama.

Get.Over.It.

[eleny]

31. Yeah, it only means little when Obama garners more delegates

When Hillary gets more there's confetti. Imagery is everything in fantasyland.

[tridim]

45. Unfortunately perception is reality

It wouldn't be if the MSM were honest.

[eleny]

48. Refresh my memory, please....

What's the current delegate count? :rofl:

[tridim]

50. Obama is ahead by an insurmoutable amount, and I'm very happy about it.

Careful with those snap replies. :)

I'm talking about the perception that Hillary and the MSM are hawking since Tuesday, the perception that she's some sort of miracle comeback kid because she won 2 out of the last 16 contests. Soon to be 2 out of 18.

[eleny]

55. I figured you were from other postings!

But I do see how I could have been much clearer. Perhaps a different smiley would have made it so. I'm just so delighted with the new California delegate count and the good showing in Texas.

Thanks, I really do appreciate your reply.

[JBoy]

58. Newsflash: Hillary just decided that Texas doesn't count.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

27. Oh right, I forgot.

Clinton supporters don't think black people count.

[Colobo]

28. Obama won more delegates, so he won. It's easy to understand.

Just like the electoral vote and the popular vote.

[NorthernSpy]

47. wow -- you people don't even try to hide it anymore, do you?

:eyes:

[Perky]

51. Oh so now it'sthat Black People do not count as much?

So what each black vote is worth let me guess three-fifths of a white vote? Dlegatesare apportioned based on the percentage of votes in that district that went to a democratic candidate. Period.

[alphafemale]

56. ....don't like black people much....huh?

Doesn't take much to cut to the truth.

Does it?

[Catherina]

60. Yeah. Maybe we should go back to counting AAs as 3/5 of a person

Then all will be well in Wonderland again.


Yeah, don't want them niggras getting all uppity now, do we? Next thing you know, they'll be a-wantin the vote or to sit up the front of the bus.


Just overturn the Voting Rights Act why don't you.

[Adelante]

70. Black men aren't working men?

Is that your argument?

[Hawkowl]

71. And Shrub didn't win in 2000

Our American democracy is not the tyranny of the majority. It never was and never will be. It is a republic designed with checks and balances so that a mere plurality of people can never exterminate the rights of others, arbitrarily deemed a minority.

In short, Texas can be viewed as a dress rehearsal for the 50 state electoral college circus in November.

The MONSTER is finished.

[txaslftist]

80. Wow.

A) you don't know anything about the caucus system, and B) wow.

You need to proof your stuff before you post. You realize you just said there are fewer "working men" in the black areas? The caucuses started at 7:15 pm. Just about everyone there was coming after work.

[Debi]

9. So now Texas is just a red state that doesn't count?

:shrug:

[Bongo Prophet]

66. I think that is the crux of the problem - Tx IS counting...votes.

And as the votes in the precinct (and then county) come in, we will see who really WINS the most delegates.

If it turns out that Obama gets more delegates, then certain people will howl.
They have been busy trying to dismiss the state the last day or two, commensurate with their projected outcome, of course.

that's politics. Like sausage, sometimes.

[txaslftist]

82. "I'll see ya in Texas!"

Who was it who said that? 'Cause I don't recollect it being Barack Obama.

[femmedem]

10. Don't say it! Don't say it!

"Texas doesn't count."

Aw crap, I said it. This place has infected my brain. :P

[RoadRage]

11. So, she'll be dropping out any day now, right?

I mean, per Bill, "Hillary must win both Texas AND Ohio to stay in this race". She didn't win TX AND OH.. so, she drops out of the race.. and we begin the steps to heal the party.

Phew.. i'm so glad this is resolved. :eyes: Why do I have a feeling that the Clintons have no intention to live up to this word.. like everything else they've said.

[txaslftist]

83. She won't drop out, period.

And if she burns the democratic party down around her ears, that's just too bad in Clinton land.

[NDambi]

13. yeah baby

:toast: :bounce:

[hogwyld]

14. Kick!

[backscatter712]

15. Didn't she have to win both Ohio and Texas to stay in the race?

She's really got a math problem now...

[City Lights]

16. It's time for her to go!

She *had* to win both Texas and Ohio and she failed.

G'nite Hilly! :hi: Go in peace, my friend. :hi:

[Yossariant]

18. BREAKING: Obama fans still miserable and desperate after Tuesday ass-kicking..

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

26. ass-kicking?

:rofl:

[bdamomma]

39. ..................

:rofl:

[tabasco]

43. Newsflash: Obama's winning.

H. Clinton is the one in desperation mode with her slimy attacks and phony victory parties.

It was really over on Super Tuesday but H. Clinton's desperation to seize power has made her a monster.

She is hurting her chances to retain her Senate seat at this point.

[Dr. Strange]

59. Just like Giants fans were miserable and desperate after the Super Bowl ass kicking.

[Dawgs]

67. An "ass-kicking" is losing 12 in a row by an average of 31 points.

But you already knew that since your an expert on "ass-kicking".

[anamandujano]

74. Yup! Observing their frenzy is good for the immune system.

:toast:

[txaslftist]

85. Is this headline from Bizarro-World?

Are you Bizarro superman?

Because here in metropolis, Barack has increased his lead over Hillary.

[malik flavors]

22. Someone should e-mail KO about this for tonight's show.

[lapfog_1]

32. It would seem that KO is no longer a favorite news source

for Hillarites...

All because he points out a number of truths about their candidate.

SHE is the one that called for "vetting" of Obama... but HE is Ken Star if he asked that her tax returns be made public.

SHE is the one that touts that McCain has "crossed the commander in chief threshold" but Obama has not.

HER campaign is the one that called the Canadian prime minister's chief of staff to tell the Canadian government to take the anti-NAFTA rhetoric with a "grain of salt".

[obamafansam]

42. Lets all congradulate Sen. Obama by donating to his campign.

Lets beat the 55 mil in feb and bring it to 70 mil in March

https://donate.barackobama.com/page/contribute/dt2std?source=mainnav

[alphafemale]

65. Done.

Can't do a lot. But I can do a little.

And millions of people doing a little have been pretty impressive so far. :D

[anamandujano]

72. Good idea. Help him make the people of the up-coming races miserable with

his non-stop lame TV spots.

Thank god, the campaign has left Texas.

[txaslftist]

86. I agree. Watching Hillary's people flounder around here was depressing.

[TexasLady]

79. Welcom to DU, Obamafansam!!

:hi:

[AnarchoFreeThinker]

81. done.

[Scurrilous]

49. K & R

:thumbsup:

[bdamomma]

57. kick

[jenmito]

73. We need to email the MSM! If/when this gets real coverage, it will even be better for Obama than if

he had narrowly won the first day!

[AntiFascist]

76. I want to hear every bonehead on CNN repeat this over and over...

just like they did when they announced over and over that Shillary had won big.

[txaslftist]

77. About dang time. I knew this Wednesday morning.

Hell, anyone with the results and a calculator could have figured it out.