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ButterflyBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 02:36 AM
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Hillary is no small d democrat if she opposes a Michigan do-over.
Hillary has basically said she won't support a Michigan revote because it would supposedly disenfranchise everyone who voted in the first primary (even though they could easily vote again). Yet she doesn't think no one was disenfranchised by her being the only major candidate on the ballot? That joke of an "election" held in Michigan is about as legitimate as the recent Russian elections. Common sense dictates a revote is the only fair thing, but Hillary instead wants the delegation seated where she holds 80 more delegates than Obama, something which quite obviously doesn't reflect the opinion of the state.

If you think the virtually unopposed election in Michigan should take precendence over a fair revote with all candidates on the ballot, you are no small d democrat. That previous vote was comparable to your typical "election" in a third world dictatorship. Yet that's what Hillary thinks should take precedence.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 02:40 AM
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1. Hillary is no small-d democrat, and she is no big-D Democrat
She is, however, a GIANT-P Pain in my ass.
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surfin Donating Member (250 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 02:40 AM
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2. Someone tell the Queen to leave
It was mention on here that she was taking acting lessons from a prof at Yale recently. How about her going full-time on Saturday night life, they could use her cackle.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 02:41 AM
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3. Some candidates CHOSE to remove their names from the ballot
and now they want a do-over?
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ButterflyBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 02:43 AM
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8. Obama was told the vote wouldn't count and removed his name.
It's pretty obvious that if the vote would've counted he wouldn't have removed his name. Holding an election, saying the numbers won't matter and then deciding they will after the fact is no more fair than deciding an exhibition game will count in the league records after the game is played or a teacher deciding a ungraded evaluation test to judge the class's current knowledge will be graded after all after it's taken.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 02:44 AM
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10. He CHOSE to remove his name
to pander to Iowa and New Hampshire. It was entirely his decision.
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ButterflyBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 02:45 AM
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12. He would've not removed his name had it'd been clear the election would matter
To make it valid is changing the rules after the game is played. Comparable to an ex post facto law actually.
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earthlover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 07:31 AM
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17. Changing the rules in the middle of a game: definition of CHEATING
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 02:43 AM
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9. Chose to conform to the agreed upon rules. Yeah. Same thing.
:eyes:
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 02:45 AM
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11. Nope
Yet another lie from Camp Obama. There was no rule saying they had to remove their names. He chose to.
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ButterflyBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 02:47 AM
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13. A person also chooses to do controversial actions while legal
But that doesn't mean they can be prosecuted for doing so after such actions are made illegal.
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 02:57 AM
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15. "Obama's campaign chose not to place his name on the Michigan
ballot so as not to violate the national Democratic party rules." John Conyers
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 07:42 AM
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18. That's John Conyers' spin
There was no requirement to remove his name. He chose to do it.

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ButterflyBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 11:36 AM
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19. And if he had been told the election would count, he wouldn't have
So how is it fair to get someone to do something based on an incorrect assumption?
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 02:41 AM
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4. Hillary's a small (r) Democrat
Theres nothing recognizably Democratic about her.
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ButterflyBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 02:48 AM
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14. You mean a BIG (R) Democrat!
There's nothing small (r) republican about her either. Unless the word "republic" is preceded by "banana"
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BzaDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 02:42 AM
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5. I agree. There should definately be a revote.
Though I'm not sure what comments you were referring to -- her recent comments about no-revotes specifically were about Florida.
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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 02:42 AM
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6. Rules Were Made For Everyone But Hillary
apparently and her supporters here seem to agree.
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 02:42 AM
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7. Her hubris is causing a train wreck.
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 05:30 AM
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16. The woman nis jusy unbeleavable.
Hey Hillary , it's already been decided, the deligates won't be seated. Now sit down and STFU.
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