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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 02:22 AM
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The smartest thing our party can do right now
would be to put Obama and Clinton on the ticket together. They would make a powerful team. Both of them against McCain.

But our party isn't making many smart decisions these days.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 02:24 AM
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1. The smartest thing our party can do right now is to show Hillary to the nearest exit
She gave up the right to call herself a Democrat the moment she endorsed John McCain over Obama.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 02:25 AM
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3. Yup. Screw her. She's with the Repubs now.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 02:28 AM
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8. McCain/Hillary 2008
Now, that's the ticket to perdition.
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 04:38 AM
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21. Exactly.

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Liquorice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 02:24 AM
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2. I do expect that to eventually happen. It would be horrible
for the party and bad for our chances in November if it doesn't.
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 02:25 AM
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4. I don't know...
at one time that looked good, but lately, things seems so vitriol.
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Yes We Did Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 02:26 AM
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5. NO WAY! She has betrayed this party. She doesn't deserve it.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 02:27 AM
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6. No
running against your guy isn't "betraying the party". How silly.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 02:50 AM
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15. Praising the Republican candidate IS betraying the party, though.
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surfin Donating Member (250 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 02:27 AM
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7. So you want McCain to win
This would be called the nightmare ticket
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 02:52 AM
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16. You really think McCain would beat that ticket?
I think it's our best bet to beat McCain.
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ExtraGriz Donating Member (405 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 02:30 AM
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9. i agree
i think we are throwing away a golden opportunity....this is our year and its nothing but a mass confusion, we need to get our crap together.
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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 02:32 AM
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10. Might Be Best For The Party But It Wouldn't Be The Best
for the country. Hillary as VP would make Obama's life miserable and as President would mean a win for the Repugs in 2012.
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Gore1FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 02:32 AM
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11. That doesn't work well... this is why
First off, Clinton won;t be at the top spot. There is no one who can mae a copelling and realistic argument to the contrary.

Secondly, Obama is running on change. How does Clinton as a VP do anything but detract from such a message?
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ExFreeper4Obama Donating Member (122 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 02:32 AM
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12. Screw that
Hillary can take a hike
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americanstranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 02:35 AM
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13. Sell it somewheres else.
I want a Democratic ticket, with real Democrats. Let Hilly go run with Grandpa McCrazy.

I'm done with her. Let Obama choose his own VP and tell Hilly to go back to NY. We'll let her know when her Senate seat is being challenged.

- as
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CitizenLeft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 02:39 AM
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14. the things coming out of her mouth now...
...make that impossible.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 02:53 AM
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17. True that
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doublethink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 02:54 AM
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18. How bout ummmmm ..... an Obama/Boxer ticket?
:)
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bling bling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 03:07 AM
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19. I'm honestly not trying to offend anyone.
This is simply a sincere opinion and I won't hide from my own truths. I don't want Bill Clinton in the White House as first man. He is a known sex-addict. I knew a woman who's daughter was groped by Clinton and he didn't even know her. She was attending some function in Chicago (this was years ago). This woman who told me was a professor of a Disability Rehabilitation Management class I was taking in college, there was NO politically motivated reason for it. We were on a topic of discrimination and somehow it got political and branched out Bill Clinton's name came up and she told us the story about her daughter. I'd heard the stories from other sources too but this more personally connected source really made it hit home that he has a problem, for real.

And the truth is when the whole Monica Lewinsky scandal broke out I was totally pissed off. I have dealt with sexual harrassment in the workplace by high level people and I know that she was a consenting adult but she was a young intern and the whole power/sex thing just sets off my fight/flight mechanism or something and enrages me. He was wrong. For so many reasons. I try to totally forget about it. But the negativity I've been feeling towards the Clinton's is clouding my view about everything and I don't feel like denying Bill's nimphomaniac side right now. I can just see Obama in the White House being overshadowed by the media reporting on Bill's philanderings. The man is addicted, he's not going to be able to contain himself. I don't want it bringing down Obama he doesn't deserve that.

Unless Hillary divorces him. That would actually be a politically SMART move right now, I think. Hillary's base right now is IN SPITE of Bill, not because of him. Divorce Bill, fire her stupid campaign advisers, then start looking inside herself for the right answers.
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andym Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 03:32 AM
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20. It's the conventional thing to do
It's the conventional thing to do in order to avoid alienating large blocs of voters. It may very well happen later (in June).
Don't be surprised. No matter the enmity, the hatchet will be buried.

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