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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 12:25 PM
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WP, pg1: Results Refocus Dem Campaign; Clinton advisers' scenario to overcome Obama delegate lead
Results Refocus Democratic Campaign
Clinton, Obama Clash Over Superdelegates
By Dan Balz and Shailagh Murray
Washington Post Staff Writers
Thursday, March 6, 2008; A01

Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's victories in Texas, Ohio and Rhode Island reinvigorated her once-shaky presidential candidacy and reshaped her debate with Sen. Barack Obama, but those successes yielded only a modest gain in the battle for delegates, underscoring the daunting odds she faces in overtaking Obama before the end of the primary season in early June. As a newly confident Clinton (N.Y.) publicly entertained the idea of Obama (Ill.) running as her vice presidential nominee, advisers sketched out a new scenario for overcoming Obama's delegate lead: a Clinton win in the Pennsylvania Democratic primary in April and then persuading the more than 300 uncommitted superdelegates who are poised to decide the race that she would be the stronger general-election nominee....

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With 370 Democratic pledged delegates at stake on Tuesday, the Associated Press estimated that Clinton had a net gain of just 12 delegates overall with her three victories. Twelve delegates have not yet been allocated. As of yesterday afternoon, she still trailed Obama by 140 pledged delegates, or 101 overall when superdelegates were included. "They're never even going to get close to erasing the pledged-delegate lead," said David Plouffe, Obama's campaign manager. "Last night was a big window that closed for them."

But Harold Ickes, who oversees Clinton's delegate tracking, accused the Obama team of making "a phony distinction" between pledged delegates and superdelegates. "We expect to be very close to him in overall delegates (at the end of the primaries) and expect that the remaining uncommitted delegates will decide which of the two candidates are the stronger and more prepared to run in the general election," he said. "We're confident that will be Hillary." Obama has argued that those automatic delegates to the national convention should validate the results of the primaries and caucuses, while Clinton has said they should decide independently who would make the stronger nominee to run against McCain.

Clinton's team has assigned 20 staffers to focus exclusively on the superdelegates, one official said. Over the weekend, the team reached out to every uncommitted delegate amid rumors that Obama was preparing to roll out as many as 50 new endorsements this week. They found no evidence that a big bloc was ready to announce for Obama, but nonetheless made another round of calls to members of the Democratic National Committee on Tuesday. "Our message to them was 'Keep your powder dry,' " one official said. "Their response was 'We will keep our powder dry.' " In light of Tuesday's results, Clinton's team plans to go back to uncommitted superdelegates with a new plea to back her campaign -- or at least to remain on the fence to await the results of upcoming contests....

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/05/AR2008030503538_pf.html
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 12:31 PM
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1. Ickes is a total piece of shit.
Edited on Thu Mar-06-08 12:33 PM by jefferson_dem
Tell us there is no distinction between insider establishment-type "Superdelegates" many of whom are unelected and unaccountable, and pledged delegates which are earned via democratic participation by rank-in-file voters and caucusers. That's you and I DUers! Gawd I hate this bunch.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 12:33 PM
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2. I like how you say "authentic democratic participation" and "caucuses" in the same sentence.
Read my sigline to see why.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 12:36 PM
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5. Funny. I just deleted "authentic" to cut down on wordiness...before seeing your post.
Sorry to differ but caucuses are democratic. In a way, they are more democratic than primaries, in the sense that they require citizens gather in "deliberative town squares" and publicly express support for candidates, and perhaps even defend their reasons for such support.

I'm not sure you want to focus on percentages. Even primaries may only draw out 20-25% of those who are actually eligible to vote. The vast majority of people don't participate in the process at all but the electoral decisions are binding on us all. How "democratic" is that?
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ExFreeper4Obama Donating Member (122 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 12:35 PM
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3. Hillary needs to pack it up
She's finished. Pelosi (Convention Chairwoman) and Dean have stated that they will not overturn the will of the people. All remaining super delegates have also said they won't go against the will of the people. Even if florida and michigan have do-overs it wont be enough to overcome the delegate lead and Michigan could easily go to Obama. Hillary is DONE.
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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 12:36 PM
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4. That's right. Clinton is in it because she intends to cheat at the end. Classy. nt
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