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fedupwithbush Donating Member (159 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 08:43 PM
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Experience, a thread killer
I posted the paragraph below on a thread started by someone else that was running well. It sunk. Why? Because it hadn't been thought of or because you knew the truth when you read it?

Obama has more government experience on paper than her. When is being the wife of an executive more experience than actually holding office? If that were so, I'd have 18 years of being an electronic design engineer. I've been with my husband through all his schooling and work, for longer than the 18 years of marriage. But I can't put that on a resume. Why can she? I don't doubt that she talked with President Clinton about decisions. Sheesh, I found the last 2 great jobs my husband has had and vetted his resume for him too. But that DOESN'T MEAN I HAVE HIS SKILLS! This experience schtick is preposterous and really is a bunch of bull ****. That's just one more reason I don't like the campaign Hillary is running. Experience, hey I can basically lie on my resume too. Isn't that what she's doing?

Please think about what you are saying and doing here. I see too many threads that don't matter a bit. What happened to substance? What happened to rational thought? Think it through before you post. A lot of the stuff I see on here doesn't matter in the long run. It's not important to the presidency. It's simply nitpicking.

Nitpick something important.
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 08:44 PM
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1. Clinton supporters will say that she was "instrumental" to his campaign strategy.
Although I have yet to see any evidence besides heresay.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 08:45 PM
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2. "Paper" experience is meaningless
You've got a tough sell to make Obama seem more experienced than Clinton. That's probably why your fellow supporters didn't want to comment.
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 08:46 PM
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4. Wait what?
So actual experience is now bad!?
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politicks Donating Member (24 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 08:46 PM
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3. Good post.
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woolldog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 08:48 PM
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5. I've said this before
and been called a sexist for pointing out the obvious truth.
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thunder rising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 08:48 PM
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6. As Barack says, "She's been making that claim since the beginning. It's not effective, 'cause if it
was she would have the delegates." Ha Ha
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 08:51 PM
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7. Bumping because my experience tells me this is being ignored.
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fedupwithbush Donating Member (159 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 08:59 PM
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8. Yes, I agree
We wouldn't want common sense to prevail, now would we?

I wanted a clean campaign really bad.

I wanted issues not smears that weren't true.

I wanted substance.

I wanted optimism.

I wanted clear idea's.

I've seen them from both.

But I've seen them from Obama's camp a LOT more than Hillary's camp. Sorry, I can't post them as Barack and Clinton. I heard those things I wanted to hear from Bill. I don't hear them from Hillary. To use their last name, lumps him with her.
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Sal Minella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 09:03 PM
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9. As someone else posted -- Experience....Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Wolfowitz all had experience,
and look where that got us.
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woolldog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 09:04 PM
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10. So did Nixon.
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Kokonoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 09:05 PM
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11. She does have experience campaigning
Unfortunately
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AnnieBW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 09:11 PM
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12. If it was really about "experience"
We'd be choosing between Joe Biden, Bill Richardson, and Chris Dodd instead of HRC and BO.
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 09:26 PM
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13. I was about to post just that - and we'd have a better nom against McCain too nt
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 09:27 PM
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14. and also Chuck Schumer would have made more sense than Hillary Clinton... nt
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FedoraLV Donating Member (226 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 09:39 PM
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15. Hillary has compared this race to a job interview
Edited on Wed Mar-05-08 09:40 PM by FedoraLV
I would not hire someone who pointed to their experience in a joint venture with their spouse unless they could document exactly what duties they had held and what accomplishments had been their primary responsibility. (I would also want them to account for their mistakes and areas of weakness.)

I would not hire someone who asked me to hire them because they were a woman or because they were a professional woman who has been treated badly ... um, I'm a professional woman who has sometimes been treated badly: make your career despite that. And I'd just stare at any interviewee who highlighted their gender as a job qualification (when gender had nothing to do with the expected duties.)

-FedoraLV
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