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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 04:18 PM
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Joe Klein sees media bias against Clinton - Names names
Jeff Greenfield moderated a panel discussion at Manhattan's 92nd Street Y Sunday night that dealt with the anti-Clinton media bias that has been prevalent in this election cycle. Joe Klein, Jonathan Alter, and Rich Lowry were on the panel.

Klein actually named the names of the prominent newsies who have taken a very anti-Clinton stand: Russert, Chris Matthews, and Maureen Dowd. Alter actually got loudly booed when he tried to deny any bias vs. HRC. Here's the Conde Nast Portfolio article written by Jeff Bercovici
Klein, who's also a CNN regular, was most unequivocal in spotting bias.

"I do believe there's something weird a few of our colleagues have ," he said. "They tend to be Roman Catholics, actually. People like Tim Russert, Chris Matthews, Maureen Dowd. They've had it in for Bill and Hillary Clinton since Monica Lewinsky. They feel that the Clintons are trying to put one over on us all the time."

Lowry dismissed favorable treatment of Obama as "a classic bandwagon effect -- whoever's winning is a genius." But then he reversed course somewhat: "The glee we saw on the airwaves prior to New Hampshire about what everyone considered the imminent demise of Hillary Clinton was obvious." And analyzing last week's debate, he said, "I thought it was obvious that Tim Russert and Brian Williams were harder on Hillary Clinton."


Alter, for his part, actually drew loud boos for denying widespread media bias against Clinton. One male audience member seated near the back of the room even cried out "Bullshit!" (It should be noted that Alter is affiliated with NBC News, home to Williams, Russert and Matthews.)


http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/3/3/143530/9180



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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 04:21 PM
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1. If this is supposedly some Catholic anti-Clinton plot
Then explain why Clinton leads Obama among Catholics? I saw posts about that here this morning.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 04:25 PM
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2. Apparently he hasn't been listening to CNN for the past 20 minutes.
Wolfie went on and on about the NAFTA story, even though there's a disclaimer up on the Canadian Embassy site that they didn't say what they're being accused of saying, that Obama never talked to them, etc., etc., etc.
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 07:24 PM
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21. Apparently he hasn't been listening to TV in the last 12 months.
They gave her the white house as soon as she announced. I'm not that deaf, or senile.
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laconicsax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 07:56 PM
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22. They've been doing that since 2003
the endless speculation that she'd run, fueled by polls in mid 2003 showing her as the most 'popular' Democratic candidate. The repeated headlines of, 'Sen. Hillary Clinton says she isn't running for president, but will she change her mind?' and 'Iowa is only weeks away, will Hillary Clinton jump in this race at this late stage?'
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 04:26 PM
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3. wow, You are really falling apart in these last days of the Clinton Empire, huh DSB?
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 04:30 PM
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10. I Cited An Interesting Article
Edited on Mon Mar-03-08 04:32 PM by DemocratSinceBirth
If you take this board as seriously as you think I do you should buy a dog or find a hobby...


on edit- thanks for making it personal... if you were here with me I'd give you a big French kiss...

With love,

DSB
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 05:03 PM
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15. I though you were a Democrat first, Hillarite second
I guess I was wrong.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 07:08 PM
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20. ~
Edited on Mon Mar-03-08 07:19 PM by DemocratSinceBirth
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 04:26 PM
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After the rezko parroting people are still convinced of extreme bias against Clinton.
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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 04:26 PM
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4. one of the main reasons I want this to end
is so I don't have to hear Hillary or her Victimhood of followers stop fucking whining every single day-maybe the reason people don't like her is because she isn't likable
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CaliforniaDemocrat Donating Member (47 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 04:26 PM
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5. He hit the nail on the head
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Saturday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 04:27 PM
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6. The audience booed when it was said there was media bias
against Clinton? Sounds like a typical Obama supporter booing not wanting facts to get out. It doesn't take much to see the bias. When the bias turns on their candidate they'll be the first to mention it.
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SoxFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 04:28 PM
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7. Wolf Blitzer?
Candy Crowley?
Jake Tapper?
Paul Krugman?
Dan Abrams?
Paul Begala?
Alan Colmes?
Greg Sargent?
Ben Smith?
Susan Estrich?
Mickey Kaus?
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 04:29 PM
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8. How can Alter deny what he has been writing in his columns?
First, in the Obama coronation issue after Iowa, then, in admitting that, being born in 1957, he had carried a long envy of the older baby boomers, like the Clintons, while feeling a strong affinity to Obama.

That was the last column of his that I've bothered to read. I believe that last week he called for Clinton to step down.
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 04:29 PM
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9. "They tend to be Roman Catholics"
Whaaaa? Just when I think this primary rhetoric cant get any more twisted - someone comes along and proves me wrong. Incredible.
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Kaylee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 04:31 PM
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11. I'm just dense, because I don't see it...
Her campaign has deftly framed election coverage in her favor. Although Senator Clinton has lost 11 primaries in a row, is severely trailing in delegate counts, and had momentum against her coming out of the Potomac Primaries, the media has continued to portray her as the one to beat. The most repeated phrase of the past two weeks has been "Never count a Clinton out".

If anything her status as an American icon has forced the press to give her the benefit of the doubt.

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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 04:36 PM
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12. Thank you for posting this article!!
Amazing that it took two skits from SNL for the media to finally admit what the public at large already knew: Hillary has been bashed by the MSM for months now while they have given Obama a free ride.

Obama should beware though because the same way that these vultures can lift you, it's the same way that they'll turn on you in a NY minute.
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hulka38 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 04:42 PM
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13. Joe, why don't you tell us all again how invading Iraq
was going to be a good thing.
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beltanefauve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 04:50 PM
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14. Joe Klein?
Rrrrrright, now that's an unbiased voice in the world of journalism.

If there's anything the MSN likes better than a good scandal, a missing blond, or a controversy of their own creation, it's a story about the media itself.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 05:17 PM
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19. Attacking the messenger doesn't void the message
Klein may be a idiot- but anyone who hasn't seen this going on is too thick to take seriously.

And I'll add- they'll be in for a big surprise when the far right and the corporate media turns its rabid "attention" to their candidate.

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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 05:05 PM
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16. Alter Kinda Looks Like A Troll:
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 05:07 PM
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17. Pigs fly. The Pope converts. Bears start buying Ex-Lax.
And Joe Klein defends someone with the surname CLINTON.

This is just too much for me.

Oh, my, I'm getting the vapo(u)rs!

--p!
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 05:11 PM
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18. Hey DSB check out this poll. What do you think?
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