What are your top 3 preferences for vice president for JK in order?

[DaisyUCSB]

Just interested in how opinions break. Clearly the majority of people here want Clark most, just as they did for president(likely because they wanted him for president).

Mine, would have to be first Landrieu, then Bob Graham, then McCain(sorry, I know some people here are really apposed to the last one)

[mikehiggins]

1. Clark, Edwards, Richardson (sorry. nothing original here) n/t

[David Dunham]

2. Edwards, McCain, and Gephardt

[TomSeaverr]

3. I don't like any of your

choices. Sorry

1. Clark
2. Breseden
3. Breux
4. Edwards

[King of New Orleans]

79. Edwards, Warner, ?

I like Wes Clark quite a bit too, but I think there are better/more important ways to utilize Clark.

[jsw_81]

4. Clark, Bayh, Nelson

[mitchtv]

5. yuk none of the above for me

Clark, Richardson or Boxer

[Jane Austin]

6. Clark, Graham , Richardson

*

I don't want to see any more sitting Senators leave the Senate.

[cosmokramer]

7. Clark, Richardson, Holbrooke

Easy as 1-2-3, and all are supremely qualified.

[H2O Man]

8. Clark or Edwards

are the two best choices. I do not think that there are any better candidates.

[LandOLincoln]

9. 1. Wesley Clark.

2. Wesley Clark.
3. Wesley Clark.

Richard Holbrooke for SecState.

Bill Richardson for Governor of New Mexico.

[soothsayer]

10. the big dog

definitely

[Sparkly]

11. 1. General Clark

2. Anybody but Edwards
3. Anybody but McCain

[lucidmadman]

12. Cleland/Gephardt/DK? n/t

*

[madmax]

13. Clark

No one else moves me ;)

[flaminbats]

14. Max Cleland, Wes Clark, and John McCain...

Cleland would help Kerry win Georgia and Florida. Clark would help in Arkansas and Louisiana. And John McCain would boost Kerry in Nevada and Arizona...not to mention California and New Mexico!

[Hippo_Tron]

21. Max Cleland would not help with anything...

The man lost his own Senate seat, how the hell is he supposed to deliver Georgia or Florida? Don't get me wrong he's a great guy, but he won't help us electorally.

[flaminbats]

53. I believe the mood of the electorate has changed dramatically in 2 years..

meaning that polls would show greater support for a Kerry/Cleland ticket in Georgia and Florida than for Bush/Cheney.

[onehandle]

15. To anyone who said McCain...

He's not a Democrat, so keep your jokes to yourself.

Seriously, the base of the party would stay home in droves. McCain is a Right-Wing prick who has strayed from the party line in a very, very narrow field of topics.

We would lose.

On edit: Neither Clinton will be on the ticket, so get over that as well.

[DaisyUCSB]

16. "a very narrow field of topics?"

Campaign finance, tax-cuts, the place of the religious right, environment, deficit spending, ... that isn't narrow

Oh and by the way. Richardson has repeatedly ruled it out. He's got too much responsibility with his governorship AND chairing the convention anyway.

[TomSeaverr]

17. McCain has said NO NO

Now get over this two faced REPUKE. He's against many things our party is stands for. We don't need a repuke on our ticket.

[Zorra]

54. Agreed about McCain.

People that call themselves Democrats and who are promoting a republican for any position in the Kerry administration are attempting to weaken the Democratic Party.

[peacebuzzard]

78. McCain? Wrong party. Clark or Edwards. Edwards or Clark.

Either one. I really prefer Kucinich, but we need electibility.

[immoderate]

18. Jon Stewart, Al Franken, George Carlin

We need a little rounding out.

--IMM

[pop goes the weasel]

19. Ann Richards

Just to piss off W

[DaisyUCSB]

26. dukakis picked a texan

lets not repeat that

[napi21]

33. I love Richards, but...........................

she is just getting too old. She has said that MANY times on Larry King.

I just wish thee was an Ann Richards clone! So far, I haven't seen one.

[pop goes the weasel]

39. hee hee

"I just wish thee was an Ann Richards clone! So far, I haven't seen one."

Well, no disrespect to Ann, but I'm glad I'm not her clone. What's with the King's James English? (sorry--just being silly)

Yeah, I know she is out of the game, but it would be so fitting to have her as part of the team that bounces the boob out of the White House.

[Robb]

41. "Bounce the Boob out of the White House"....

I smell a T-shirt concept!!! :D

[ashling]

102. Ann would make one hell of a vice-president

if you are going for Ann just to piss off W (and I agree that that would be a great plan) you are being extremely shortsighted. She would be one hell of a good campaigner; it would make Dick's pacemaker spin! Plus, she's got the goods on W.

Oh yeah, she would make one hell of great a VP!


:dem: :kick: :dem: :kick:

[John_H]

20. Clark, Edwards, Richardson tied with Vilsack

[AmyStrange]

22. Edwards is Kerry's only chance to win in November (n/t)

[FrenchieCat]

24. Really???

I say, Clark, Clark, Clark, or Max Cleland or Graham.....I heard National Security is Bush's trump card for the next 90 days of attacks against Kerry. Can Edwards help out there?.....didn't think so.

[AmyStrange]

28. We shall see in Nov...

I don't hear many people questioning Bush's military service anymore. Two military people on the same ticket will take the focus away from the economy and jobs. Edwards will help along those lines a lot more than Clark will.

Clark didn't win a primary while Edwards did. Edwards still has more delegates than Clark. Edwards (in my opinion) is more likable than Clark. Edwards has been a democrat a lot longer than Clark has officially declared to be one.

Don't get me wrong, I love Clark, but I have heard more positive numbers and opinions about Edwards lately than Clark.

The bottom line is, we will see which will help Kerry win in November. I am swayed more heavily towards Edwards than Clark.

We shall see,

d

(edited the extra "d" out of this post)

[JohnKleeb]

29. to be fair Clark did win one primary

That said as someone who hasn't supported either Clark or Edwards, I would prefer Edwards. He has it down on domestics, and I personally think he would make a better running mate than Clark. Not sure who Kerry will choose but I would like Edwards.

[AmyStrange]

31. You are correct...

I apologize for making a false statement. And thank you JK for correcting me. (Please don't tell me your middle inital is F)

All I can say in my defense is that I was wrong and the nicest thing I could ever hope any of you to say about me was that I was despicable... but he does have a history of admitting when he is wrong,

d

[DemDogs]

75. Clark: We should be thankful for our President

. . . or whatever he said at that fundraiser. Is there any doubt in your mind that those speeches he gave praising Bush and Company at Republican fundraisers will be reprised for the general election? And what will Kerry say then?
Anyone but Clark, IMHO.

Besides we need to go where Bush is weakest and where people care the most: his failed domestic policy. Edwards would be GREAT there.

[Auntie Bush]

83. That comment could help Kerry get elected

"Is there any doubt in your mind that those speeches he gave praising Bush and Company at Republican fundraisers will be reprised for the general election?"

The above quote might help many an independent or Republican pull the lever for a Kerry/Clark administration. That's just the people we need to win a general election. Yes, it did hurt him in the Primaries...but will help in the GE.

[cosmokramer]

55. Win what? A beauty contest?

NO, Edwards would NOT help win in November. All polls show Kerry losing to Bush on defense/security issues--Kerry won't choose Edwards as he has ZERO to offer in this area.

Look for it to be Clark, Richardson, Holbrooke. It won't be a Senator.

[DemDogs]

57. Not Clark, Not Richardson and what? Holbrooke?

Clark: Expect to see the Republican fundraiser tapes revisited as commercials -- and if you didn't think so before, you know it now. The R's will definitely use them.

Richardson: lots of gossip (no, I don't know anything) and he opts out. Coincidence?

Holbrooke: Richard Holbrooke? This is a joke, of course. (Hey, you're not Holbrooke, are you?)

[cosmokramer]

59. Puhleeze!

I am sure you can make better arguements than that!

For Edwards, expect the transcripts of him channeling unborn babies to be far more damaging...or maybe the story about how he didn't know who Itzhak Rabin was...funny!

And you think the fundraising tape would be damaging for independents? Uh, no, they won't give a crap. And dems won't either, because he did a dem fundraiser ONE WEEK later...

Surely you can do better...

[Auntie Bush]

81. If I lift up a rock?

Might you be under there? :shrug: :evilgrin:

[Khephra]

23. Anyone but Bayh, Liberman. or Miller

[DaveSZ]

25. I've said this a million times, but...

The only two I feel could deliver us the WH are Clark or Edwards.

Edwards makes the case for economic security, and has more charisma in his little finger than Kerry has in his enitre 6'5" frame.

Most people really like Edwards, and the man is amazing on the stump.

He could help us in such states as Ohio where job losses are a huge concern.

Clark makes the case for national security. If terror bombings are going to continue, two war heroes who also care about the domestic issues that concern most people such as job losses could help sway them. On the other hand, I think if the terror attacks continue, most Americans will run to hide under Condi Rice's dress.

[leyton]

48. I agree.

Can't we mix Clark and Edwards together into some Southern charismatic credible uber-Democrat? Maybe throw in a bit of Sharptonesque humor for good measure...

[Avalux]

27. Someone with very strong foreign policy experience

Clark
Albright (yes, I love her)
Rockefeller (well, maybe not, but I think he's a great guy)

[nator311]

30. Gov. Warner, Nelson (FL), and Rendell (n/t)

[Zynx]

32. Edwards, Breaux, Warner

I'm going purely off who will help us the most in the election.

[napi21]

34. I agree on Edwards.

I think there's another part to this that I haven't seen on this site......there has been a traditional VP candidate debate before each election too.

Cheny isn't a walk in the park to debate one on one.

I just don't see Clark being cunning enough, and many of the others mentioned are just too nice.

Edwards has won a lot of court cases and that tells me he knows how to handle himself in a one on one debate. Cheny just uses his powerful impression to convince people he knows what's best.

Since Edwards has won cases aginst the SAME powerful corporate voices, I thin he has the best shot!

[Auntie Bush]

88. Clark...not Edwards

"Since Edwards has won cases against the SAME powerful corporate voices, I thin he has the best shot!"

Wrong! There is a big difference debating Law than debating War.
Chaney would crush Edwards like he made mince meat out of Lieberman.
How could anyone ever think Edwards could win in a debate regarding homeland Security? That could actually sink the whole election!
I would actually be damn scared if Edwards were chosen as Veep.

[surfermaw]

35. Edward, same as 44% of the nation

[DemDogs]

76. With you (and common sense): Edwards

Hard to come up with a second place, really.

What do we need? No skeletons, energy, great communication skills, I think domestic credentials (we need to quit running this race on the messy ground the Republicans want), ability to beat Cheney in a debate, a voting record that isn't too different from Kerry's on key issues (like Lieberman's was from Gore) and most of all, we need someone who is up to this level of fight. You can't throw Bill Nelson into this, for example; he'd sink.

If I am right about what we need, who else is there?

[HFishbine]

36. Feingold, Harkin, Graham

[sadiesworld]

37. Clark, Clark, and ...

yes, Clark again. Edwards, the big bucks tort attorney, would be absolutely slaughtered by the RW press. The reality is that most Americans don't like attorneys. He is also light on foreign policy and the whore press will continually point out that if something were to happen to Kerry, America's safety would be in Edwards' hands ("What's he gonna do, sue the terrorists?" yuk, yuk). Come on, you can just hear it. BTW, what's Breux"s appeal? I thought he was pretty conservative...didn't he want to give "amnesty" to tax-dodging corporations without even requiring that they use their windfalls for investment in the US?

[citizen snips]

38. Edwards, Edwards , and Edwards.

Clark is a bad campaigner and that would not make a good VP.

[mikehiggins]

40. Yeah. That's why Kerry told him to sit down and shut up.

Oh, wait a minute. He didn't say that, did he?

Seems like Clark is all over the place campaigning for Kerry, taking shots at the Administration, raising money.

Maybe there was more to what happened than just being a "bad campaigner"? After all, the guy started out long after anyone else declared and put together a credible operation in short order. He won as many primaries as anyone else except Kerry, and raised more money in the last quarter of 2003--the first quarter he was running in--than any of the other candidates.

If he made any mistake it was, as he himself pointed out, not taking a chance in Iowa. He listened to the professionals who had come to the table late and not the volunteers who'd been working in the field for months. I'll bet you he'll think twice before he does that again.

But I could live with Edwards too. All that matters is defeating this Axis of Evil located in and around the White House. I just wish we had a better candidate at the top of the ticket.

[citizen snips]

42. He was a bad campaigner.

Clark must have had some bad professionals than. I mean when was the last time a general lost a primary or better yet when was the last time a general lost an election.

[Donna Zen]

44. When was the last time the media controlled the message?

Never before in the history of the US has such a monolithic media controlled the perceptions of the electorate.

While there is plenty of blame to go around among the professionals running the Clark campaign, when someone is running either first or second in most states and CNN manages to not even SAY his name over a 19 day period, you gotta wonder WTF is going on.

Clark consistently blows the gasbags away when they give him face time on TV.

And as far as his quality on the stump, Elizabeth Drew, who has seen the great ones, referred to Clark as eloquent and the energy in the room as unequaled since Bobby Kennedy.

Don't believe anything they tell you on TV. They are not interested in your well being, and they certainly will not be voting for anyone who is.

Clark....Richardson (even though he is saying "no")...Graham.

It all depends on, if you want to win.

[citizen snips]

46. I knew it.

I just knew someone would comment about the media.

Lets blame the media on Clark's mistakes.
:eyes:

[DemDogs]

74. Clark was much worse in person -- him, not staff

Since Clark was so much worse in person than in ads or whatever, I have to lay the blame at his feet. His biggest mistake: he always talked about himself. He could have learned from Dean or Edwards, who talked about the voters. And he should have said "I don't know" when he didn't know.

[Crunchy Frog]

77. Yeah, I saw Clark in person

in Denver last November. He was so terrible that I could barely tolerate donating nearly $1000.00 to his campaign. I think the other 900 people who went to see him felt the same way. They were cheering so hard just so they wouldn't have to hear him speak.

So tell me, when did you see him in person?

[citizen snips]

82. I know.

I was just responding to a post that said Clark's staff was to blame with his bad decisions he made.

I totally agree with you.

[Celtic Mama]

92. SOMW didn't talk about himself?

How many times in each speech, in each appearance did Edwards say "I'm the son of a mill worker..."

Wes Clark does not suck in public. He had to find his footing on the campaign trail.

[Celtic Mama]

89. How many primaries did Edwards win?

The same amount as the General! ONE! Wes came in second to Kerry more often than Edwards, too. Is Edwards even out there working for Kerry right now? No. Clark, Nelson, Graham, Gephart, & Holbrooke are. Where's Edwards?

[Bombtrack]

95. Um, that is really a false statement. Edwards came in second a heck of

alot more times than Clark did. Just off the top of my head you've got Iowa, Missouri, Virginia, Tennesee, Wisconsin, and every Super Tuesday state other than Vermont, which Kerry didn't win.

[Auntie Bush]

91. I first read the message and said to self...,...

That sounds like MATTMAN! Sure nuff!

No sense in arguing but I have a question.

Have you ever been to a Clark rally or seen and heard him in person? I doubt it!

[AlinPA]

43. Edwards, Clark, Bob Kerrey

[osaMABUSh]

45. General Clark, Richardson (NM Gov), Vilsack (Iowa Gov)

Clark nullifies the only issue they can run on - "the war on terror"

The other two provide geographic advantages in key states where if win them we win the Presidency.

[Mz Pip]

47. I want someone

with the cajones to call Cheney on all his crap.

Clark
Bayh
Richardson

MzPip
:dem:

[in_cog_ni_to]

49. Tough one.

:7 Clark, Graham and Holbrooke.

[Padraig18]

50. Edwards, Breaux and Graham.

:)

[Endangered Specie]

51. Graham (Florida), Edwards, Clark

[Leilani]

52. I really want to say Clark, Clark, Clark

But I'll be serious & say

1. Clark
2. Bob Graham because of national security & Florida
3. ? It has to be someone strong on terrorism, national security, etc.

[Thrill]

56. The american people already believe Kerry

can handle the economy better than the chimp. So there is no need for Edwards on domestic issues. The thing Kerry seems to be laging in is National Securtity. So the obvious choice should be Clark.

[citizen snips]

58. The American people believe that Edwards should be VP.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uslatest/story/0,1282,-3837586,00.html

http://www.pollingreport.com/wh2004.htm#misc

[cosmokramer]

60. The American people have only heard these two names for the

...past month. The 'American People' don't really care who is VP and are only naming the name they have heard mentioned most often.

I have told you before Matt, and I will tell you again:

Edwards will not be VP. It will not be a Senator and it will not be a candidate without FP experience, PERIOD. Bet on it.

[citizen snips]

80. The voters do care who is VP.

Because a Kerry/Edwards ticket is the only ticket that is beating Bush.

[cosmokramer]

84. Oh fercrippessake...

...gimme a friggin' break! A few small sampling polls and you think it is the gospel? Good grief, aren't you going to be surprised...

[citizen snips]

86. What the hell does fercrippessake mean?

And you need to fix your sig line the link does not work.

[cosmokramer]

87. Just the equivalent of an eye roll...

[Toucano]

62. Is this the same "American people" who believe Saddam

was responsible for 9/11? :)

Ain't voters funny?

[cosmokramer]

85. My point exactly...

...likely half the voters can't name the current VP!

[Auntie Bush]

94. Yeah, The same smart American Freeple that don't think

the Resident lied about WMD. You mean those people? :shrug:

[sadiesworld]

67. Oh, just say it: "Clark, Clark, Clark"....

Now, doesn't that feel better?!

[fujiyama]

61. Hmmm...

Clark, followed closely behind by Edwards, followed by Graham/Breaux tied

I'd take Graham if there was a definite chance he would win FL though. That state alone would make it so much harder for Bush to win.

[Finch]

63. Mark Warner, John Edwards, Bill Nelson...

...Love to have McCain in there, but while a decent guy he'll stick with the GOP no matter what...unless of course Bush is caught buggering Jerry Farewell out back at the white house...oh well i can hope...other candidates who should be considered are Bob Graham, Mary Landrieu and Evan Bayh beyond them there really aren't any candidates worth a lot of consideration...

[GreenPartyVoter]

64. Kucinich, Dean, Nader, McKinney

[Finch]

65. oh dear....

...no offense man...and i really mean that...but how on earth do those running mates help Kerry in any way?

[GreenPartyVoter]

68. It's woman *g* and it helps give him

a lean to the left.

[NNadir]

90. Please do not besmirch Howard Dean by including him

with two nutcases and a Republican.

[BootinUp]

66. Clark, Breaux, Graham

[maisey03]

69. Edwards, Gephardt, Clark

I never thought I'd be for Gephardt. I don't like him, don't trust him, but yet another local plant closed. What can I say? He's against NAFTA, supports union workers, and knows the area.

[Finch]

70. Wouldn't help Kerry...

...in MO though...he might help with union and blue collar voters in OH, WV and PA...but then again so would Edwards and actually Edwards has got far more votes across the country than Gephardt ever has...also Edwards gives us a candidate for 2012 and has national appeal across groups and regions...Gephardt does not...both Senator Bill Nelson and Gov Mark Warner would also probably be able to help Kerry as much as Edwards...and I'd place someone like Breaux before i even thought about Gephardt...he just wouldn't work...there are too many candidates for the VP slot who bring all the benefits that Gephardt would bring and more and none of the drawbacks (especially Edwards and Warner)...

[maxanne]

71. McCain is

a Republican. A REPUBLICAN. He is not a Democrat and has no business on a Democratic ticket.

In 2002 McCain endorsed Republican businessman Craig Benson for governor - a man who had been convicted of discriminating against women in his business.

He has NO place in the Democratic party. We are NOT Republicans, and he is no Democrat.

If we can't do any better than that, we should just disband the party now. I assure you that if we put a Republican on the ticket I'll be leaving the party forthwith.

[troublemaker]

72. To all McCain critics

It won't happen, but a hypothetical Kerry-McCain ticket would win by 8-12 points -- a landslide.

Granted, McCain's a Republican, but winning with him would split the Republican party. Badly. Perhaps irreparably. That's why it won't happen... McCain dislikes Bush but doesn't want to be remembered as the man that wrecked the party. But if McCain goes loco and would take the VP slot I'd give it to him in a minute.

[GreenPartyVoter]

73. I'd like to see him make Clean Elections happen

but am leery of what he might do to the economy as he is a free marketeer.

[Celtic Mama]

93. Clark, Clark & Clark

The only one out there actively working for Kerry right now who has the right experience and resume for the job is Wes Clark.

[Auntie Bush]

98. WELCOME Mama!

:hi: and glad to have another person here that thinks like I do. :bounce:

Clark is the BEST one to be on the ticket. CLARK! Period!

[SendTheGOPPacking]

96. A non-candidate that can work with a Republican Congress

[AP]

97. Edwards, Nelson, Albright.

[lams712]

99. Edwards, Vilsack, Clark n/t

[KT2000]

100. General Clark, Wes Clark and

General Wesley Clark

[serryjw]

101. John Lewis, DK, Clarke!

1) John Lewis would bring every minority out to the polls & help us in GA & Florida
2) DK would bring every liberal and green to the polls and bring our party back to its base
3) He's just a great man!..and would help with Foreign policy and National defense on the campaign trail

[atre]

103. Edwards, Richardson, Clark

nm

[osaMABUSh]

104. As others have said no way the VP is a Senator and probably

not Rep either (Gephardt). It is a Gov. or General Clark.

Don't want to enable the repukes to be able to have their way with another Congressional voting record.

Let it be Clark so we can kick the crap out of 'em in the national security debate.