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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 01:09 AM
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You fuckers are idiots...
Almost all of my beloved Family of DUers have devolved into a circular firing squad.

The Dear Ones, the Ones I have grown to know and love, have turned into something that I barely recognize.

Whether nipping at the Achilles' or going for the jugular....

I hardly know you, anymore.

What the fuck has happened?

Good God, folks...

We gotta keep our eye on the road

And our hand upon the wheel...

Are we going to get back together, sometimes?

If not...

It really doesn't matter...

We stay like this...

They kick our ass...

Happened before...

It can happen again.

Please...

Let's work together.

Tom
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 01:11 AM
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1. Do you need a hug?
:pals:
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 01:12 AM
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2. I don't need no hug...
I am pissed off at the level of discourse around here.
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 01:13 AM
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Awww. Come on.
:hug:

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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 01:19 AM
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14. OK, SweetHeart...
maybe just from you....

T.
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 01:30 AM
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37. See?
:hug: :hug: :hug:

:loveya:
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 01:13 AM
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4. Aw, come on, let's all
:grouphug:
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 01:14 AM
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6. Huuuuuug.
:grouphug:

:pals:

:hug:
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 01:20 AM
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15. Awwwww,
:hug:

:pals:

:grouphug:

:D
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InsultComicDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 01:26 AM
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27. i can has hug
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InsultComicDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 01:27 AM
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30. ...but wait!
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 01:27 AM
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31. HUG!
:hug:

:grouphug:

:pals:
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countmyvote4real Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 01:34 AM
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40. TNT, thanks for a headline that provoked me to click.
You follow with much truth. I think you are thinking too far ahead. Old-timers like myself will be very obstinate once we have settled on a candidate in a primary, but we will reevaluate in GE.

AND special thanks to MM for diffusing this for now.

This is when I like DU.

peace
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knight_of_the_star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 01:13 AM
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3. I see you missed 2004
Nuf said
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 01:28 AM
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33. So what?
We don't need to be hateful jackasses.
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 01:30 AM
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36. Here you go.
:hug:
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 01:31 AM
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38. Damn right, emily....
We have spent way too much time tearing down, hating.

I have had it.

T
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thoughtcrime1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 01:14 AM
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5. After the primaries, I'm sure it will be considerably better
Respectfully,

An idiot
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mcctatas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 01:15 AM
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7. I'm pretty sure that's offensive...
Edited on Tue Feb-19-08 01:16 AM by mcctatas
but lately, sadly, often true. I tried to make a similar point (more diplomatically, maybe that was the mistake:) ) recently, and I didn't seem to get anywhere. Hell the RNC can save millions on oppo. research if they find our little site (especially because whether you agree with them or not, most of the posts on BOTH sides are well researched and seemingly logical). Hope you have better luck. :toast:
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 01:17 AM
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9. You need a
:hug:
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cbayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 01:16 AM
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8. It's not going to happen this time.
We are just sharpening our minds and teeth. Like tiger cubs.

When the real battle begins, we will be ready.

I need to believe this.
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 01:17 AM
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10. Sounds like you need
a :hug: too. :)
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cbayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 01:21 AM
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18. Ahhhhhh! That's nice.
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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 01:18 AM
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11. It'll be all over soon. nt
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 01:22 AM
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19. Get yer free big ol'
:hug:s while you can then. :hug:
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cbayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 01:24 AM
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25. Kutjara needs one.
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Kutjara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 01:18 AM
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12. It's the ritual self-immolation of the Left.
Like some kind of reality-TV version of "Life of Brian," we're devoting so much energy to hating the "Judean People's Front" or the "People's Front of Judea," we've totally forgotten about the "Romans."

Look at the Spanish Civil War, most of the leftist movements in Latin America, the socialist movements in France, Germany, and Italy throughout the 20th Century. They all tell the same story: fraction, split, and descent into impotence. At one point in Spain, all the leftist parties were referred to as "taxicab parties," because the total membership of any one could sit comfortably inside a taxi.

The same thing will no doubt happen in places like DU, MoveOn, and the rest of the liberal "blogosphere." The future of the country will once again rest in the hands of the politically-unaware masses, because so-called progressives will expend so much of their energy infighting, they'll have little left for battling the real enemy.

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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 01:21 AM
Response to Reply #12
17. Read my sig line, Kutjara
all you knead to know...
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Kutjara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 01:51 AM
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48. Indeed, Tom.
The only question now is, whose side will the fools be on come November?
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 01:31 AM
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39. :D
:hug:
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Kutjara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 01:51 AM
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49. ...
:hug: :hi:
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 01:19 AM
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13. Do not mess in the affairs of dragons, because you are crispy and taste good in teriyaki sauce
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VenusRising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 01:21 AM
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16. You forgot this...
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 01:22 AM
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20. You are right!
:spray:
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VenusRising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 01:24 AM
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23. Nom nom nom.
:rofl:
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 01:45 AM
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43. Is that supposed to be the name of a sand dragon?
You only need to say it once, but you may need a different name because I think Nom was killed by the white gold wielder.
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VenusRising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 01:46 AM
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45. It's the noise a dragon makes while eating.
:rofl:
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 02:10 AM
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54. they don't do that in Pern
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 01:27 AM
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29. I got a Dragon on my bicep...
and a cocaine tree

She does her dance so rhythmically

She's crying and singing

And having a good time......

Don't that Cocaine Tree look fine?
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 01:23 AM
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21. Shouldn't that be
You idiots are fuckers...



















:hide:
:P

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islandmkl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 01:24 AM
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22. you fight with your brothers and sisters....
then all of you gang up on the assholes who mess with you...in theory, anyway....November will tell.
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 01:24 AM
Response to Reply #22
26. I think somebody needs a hug.
:grouphug:
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cbayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 01:30 AM
Response to Reply #22
35. Exactly. Kittens and puppies right now, that's all.
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 01:24 AM
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24. Tom,
I think there are people intent on making us think that "we" are like this.

But the "we" that I think of here is still steady, undeterred, and undistracted by all the others who want to dilute our sense of "we".

We will make it through this. It's the promise of "We, the People", and we will see it through, thanks to voices like yours that put the real "us" into the "we".

:thumbsup:

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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 01:29 AM
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34. You and me and us, Buddy....
You know....

Tom
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 01:26 AM
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28. It's not the way it used to be
It never was.

DU has long had a large and/or vocal contingent that hates part or most of the Democratic Party. Before the primary war heated up, there was plenty of bashing and trashing of Pelosi and Reid over one thing or other.

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/hfojvt/51

And circular firing squad? Have you forgotten the 8 day war? Over the Snickers ad? And another war in the lounge that is laughed about by some - over Olive Garden?

And what about the smoking wars that some people seem addicted to and light up once a week or so? Immigration? Tookie? Leopold? When has there ever been total peace between the Jets and the Sharks on DU? Only during the brief lulls.
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 01:36 AM
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42. Well, to be fair, when you're a Jet you're a Jet from your first cigarette
til you've turned into Archie Bunker, blaming the hippies and the Liberals for destroying the American Dream by letting the immigrants and welfare queens suck away the good life, while the rich keep buying enough government to make sure that the capital keeps flowing uphill.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 01:47 AM
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46. so clearly, the Jets
have jumped the shark.
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 01:17 PM
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79. .
:thumbsup:
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 01:52 AM
Response to Reply #28
51. I don't know anything about any Lounge...
Or Snickers...

Or Olive Garden..

or smoking...

But Tookie? You mean the guy that fried (or whatever)? Who really gives a shit but his Mother (and I never seen any interview with her)...

And I trust in the Lord..
But I sleep with the Light On...
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cbayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 01:27 AM
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32. Just for a laugh, Sandra Singh Loh today. (link)
Hillary in a Handbasket, Part Two: There Will Be Blood. It's funny. promise.

http://www.scpr.org/news/stories/2008/02/18/09_loh_life_hillary_2_0.html
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 01:36 AM
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41. Ah! But Tom, "Ain't no call for "fuck you"..." "We are better than that, here."
I'm just toying, Dear, you know that...but I do I feel...somewhat justified after all, that many are now beginning to see how destructive/corrosive these toxic exchanges can be. Agreed here though in particular, "Let's work together." and why? Well, cause we need to and cause rust never sleeps :)
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 01:45 AM
Response to Reply #41
44. Are you throwing it back in my face?
Are you quoting me?

Well, how's about this, Woman...?

I love you, too...

And let's keep it like that.

We will fight on...

Side by side...

Because we are who we are.

Tom
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 01:52 AM
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50. *eeeeeee!!!* I don't know from "throwing", but I will say this about that
Let's do this thing! Let's be better than they think (assuming of course that they do) we are :bounce: Peace & Love On'ya too, Tom
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 01:50 AM
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47. i have to disagree. I think you got it backwards,
The idiots are fuckers! :P
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 02:59 AM
Response to Reply #47
64. Hey! Tom...
You always shine your own peculiar light...

Keep your lamp trimmed and burnin'...

T.
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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 01:56 AM
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52. !
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 03:18 AM
Response to Reply #52
66. Size is everything...
My thumb is actually longer than that.

And my cuticles are much better (a weekly manicure is a good thing).
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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 03:44 AM
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74. At the risk of taking your thread completely off topic, I'm more of a
wrist woman, but I do agree that the guy in the photo is at no risk of becoming a hand model anytime soon. :P
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 01:59 AM
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53. The media has whipped the country into a
senseless competition when the candidates are the same.
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Beregond2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 02:32 AM
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55. You...
You post something with the title "You Fuckers Are Idiots," and then have the gall to complain about other people's conduct here?
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 02:46 AM
Response to Reply #55
57. Yep...
Because I can...
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 04:11 AM
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75. He has earned the privilege to do so. Maybe someday you will as well, and you'll get
the same kind of understanding that he's earned, which it appears you haven't noticed in the majority of the responses.

I guess you've never noticed that when someone comes into a community, it's a good idea for them to not try to jump onto a chair and start telling everyone else what to do right away, have you?

Redstone
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 02:33 AM
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56. Who you calling a fucker, idiot?... No, wait, who you calling an idiot, fucker?
:crazy:

:P

:hi:

Hey, Tom!
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 02:48 AM
Response to Reply #56
60. Hey, Emit....
Good to see you, Buddy.

I am sick and tired of all of this acrimony around here.
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 02:57 AM
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63. It's fucking insane
and very difficult to have any meaningful, intelligent discussion on the real issues facing the progressive liberal electorate, and the country at large. I had no dog in the race when Edwards dropped, so, mostly, I stay under the radar and stick to discussions that GD won't allow anymore because they relate too much to the Primary, but that folks here aren't into much. Most of my threads get tramped on by one camp or another or sink like a stone. It's akin to what DU would look like if we let Freepers post regularly.

Despite my criticisms, I hear where you're coming from. It's imperative that the Dems come out on top with this one. McCain is not an option. No Repug is an option, actually.
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 03:03 AM
Response to Reply #63
65. God loves you when you dance, Emit...
I was with your guy.

But he decided to sink like a stone...

No commitment, no subscrition...

We must cease to fight within and focus on the task at hand.

Tom
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LadyVT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 02:47 AM
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58. a voice of wisdom--totally true, but I fear it's gone too far
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casus belli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 02:48 AM
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59. "You fuckers are idiots....let's work together"....nice n/t
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 03:37 AM
Response to Reply #59
71. Goddamned right.
Kinda like PlayGround fights, when you walk off, friend and friend.

Like Eric Taylor breaking Rex Bell's nose and walking off, arm over shoulder, at Townes Van Zandt's funeral, thirty years later (you maybe would have to be a Texas songwriter to get it).

Tom
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casus belli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 03:41 AM
Response to Reply #71
72. You're an asshole. Let's be friends.
:)
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 05:35 AM
Response to Reply #72
78. It's a deal
Do you know anything about Texas songwriters?

Ask my Buddy, Redstone...

He will tell you...

Tom
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Jed Dilligan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 02:50 AM
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61. K/R just for the thread title
How you doin', Tom?
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 02:55 AM
Response to Reply #61
62. Doin' fine, Jed
But I have just about had it with the dirt-kicking on the headstones, here.

'bout to check out...
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 03:21 AM
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67. Mean.
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 03:26 AM
Response to Reply #67
68. Mean?
By what definition?

Is this some new thing, like "Word"?.

"Mean", what?
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 03:30 AM
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69. I was just shittin ya'.
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 03:31 AM
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70. You been reading my mind again, compadre?
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 03:42 AM
Response to Reply #70
73. Yeah, you're just better with words.
You put 'em together, I just lay 'em down.

Tom
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 04:12 AM
Response to Reply #73
76. I'll mow 'em down, and you can stack 'em up.
Redstone
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 05:17 AM
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77. We are trying to prevent them from kicking our ass
we just disagree vehemently on who is best suited to do that.
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