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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 01:21 AM Original message |
Senator Clinton has, in fact, never had a serious Republican challenger. |
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THUNDER HANDS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 01:23 AM Response to Original message |
1. I had to look up the name of her last opponent |
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Smarmie Doofus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 01:32 AM Response to Reply #1 |
5. John Spencer. *Former * mayor, I do believe, of that unhappy burgh. nt |
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Guy Whitey Corngood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 01:23 AM Response to Original message |
2. I know she won that election against that Bronx Tale kid n/t |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 01:31 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Didn't he get capped in the Sopranos, then in real life? |
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Smarmie Doofus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 01:33 AM Response to Reply #4 |
7. The Bronx is an awesome little place. nt |
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Smarmie Doofus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 01:37 AM Response to Reply #4 |
12. I believe he was arrested in real life for *assisting * in.... |
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JCMach1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 01:31 AM Response to Original message |
3. Lazio was a very serious contender- Don't even try that piece of revisionism |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 01:32 AM Response to Reply #3 |
6. She ran in 2000...just so you know. |
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JCMach1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 01:35 AM Response to Reply #6 |
8. typo correcting... |
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Smarmie Doofus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 01:35 AM Response to Reply #3 |
9. U R correct. It was not an easy race. nt |
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JCMach1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 01:40 AM Response to Reply #9 |
13. Exactly, she was seriously tested and managed to pull it off |
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NMMatt (523 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 02:46 AM Response to Reply #9 |
37. It should have been an easy race, but Hillary is such a bad candidate -nt |
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THUNDER HANDS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 01:35 AM Response to Reply #3 |
11. Lazio was not serious....i know, I covered his congressional district for my old newspaper |
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JCMach1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 01:42 AM Response to Reply #11 |
15. 44-44% does not equal lightweight |
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THUNDER HANDS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 01:48 AM Response to Reply #15 |
19. I'm telling you, with my own eyes I saw this race from ground zero |
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JCMach1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 01:57 AM Response to Reply #19 |
23. I am not doubting what you say about Lazio |
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THUNDER HANDS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 01:59 AM Response to Reply #23 |
24. you do understand though |
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JCMach1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 02:01 AM Response to Reply #24 |
27. Repugs were poison in IL after Ryan... |
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angie_love (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 03:26 AM Response to Reply #23 |
46. OMG, I was raised in NY, and I saw that race happening with my own eyes |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 04:40 AM Response to Reply #19 |
49. How can you be serious? My god a democrat winning a statewide election in NY |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 10:20 AM Response to Reply #49 |
51. Senator D'Amato |
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HeraldSquare212 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 10:35 AM Response to Reply #51 |
54. That seat was won by a Dem in 1998, two years before Clinton's run |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 10:43 AM Response to Reply #54 |
57. yes it was |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 10:06 AM Response to Reply #15 |
50. i'm from New York. Lazio was a joke. |
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krkaufman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 03:22 AM Response to Reply #11 |
45. Exactly. The fact that a race was close does not necessarily reflect well on a candidate. |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 02:02 AM Response to Reply #3 |
28. Thanks for the truth. She didn't even put him away until the debate and that was because of a gaffe |
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krkaufman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 03:19 AM Response to Reply #3 |
44. You're forgetting that Obama was running against Jack Ryan ... |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 03:35 AM Response to Reply #44 |
47. the candidate the Republicans are afraid of |
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krkaufman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 01:46 PM Response to Reply #47 |
64. Daaaa BEARS! |
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HeraldSquare212 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 10:22 AM Response to Reply #3 |
52. The polls you cite are before Labor Day. |
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Yossariant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 01:35 AM Response to Original message |
10. Fly in Alan Keyes to run against Obama. |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 01:41 AM Response to Reply #10 |
14. Obama was ahead of Ryan in the polls when it was leaked |
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JCMach1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 01:43 AM Response to Reply #10 |
16. Exactly, see #9 |
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spag68 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 01:51 AM Response to Reply #10 |
20. Ryan |
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JCMach1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 02:09 AM Response to Reply #20 |
33. Exactly, what a dweeb! |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 01:44 AM Response to Original message |
17. She was tied with Lazio |
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JCMach1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 01:46 AM Response to Reply #17 |
18. Exactly... |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 01:54 AM Response to Reply #17 |
22. Why did she choose NY for her carpetbagging then? n/t |
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JCMach1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 01:59 AM Response to Reply #22 |
25. Opportunity knocked and she and Bill apparently |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 02:01 AM Response to Reply #22 |
26. New York has generous laws regarding |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 02:02 AM Response to Reply #26 |
30. Hey now, let's not fight. You agree with my positions much of the time. |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 02:07 AM Response to Reply #30 |
32. Thank you |
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JCMach1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 02:13 AM Response to Reply #32 |
34. I just remember that was the RW perception of her and honestly |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 02:17 AM Response to Reply #34 |
35. hehe... no worries. |
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JCMach1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 02:54 AM Response to Reply #35 |
39. You are correct... her residence if you can call it that |
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JCMach1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 02:06 AM Response to Reply #26 |
31. Exactly, there is no advantage to this thread |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 02:02 AM Response to Reply #22 |
29. The same reason RFK did |
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spag68 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 01:53 AM Response to Original message |
21. NY po;itics |
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villager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 02:37 AM Response to Original message |
36. I don't think either Obama or McCain has ever run against truly serious opposition, either |
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ErnestoG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 02:47 AM Response to Reply #36 |
38. Yet, polls have Obama beating McCain. Clinton ties him. |
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villager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 02:57 AM Response to Reply #38 |
40. that has nothing to do with anything -- I'm just saying none of them has ever really faced a tough |
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JCMach1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 03:04 AM Response to Reply #38 |
42. Looks familiar doesn't it? |
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Evergreen Emerald (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 10:37 AM Response to Reply #38 |
55. those polls are notorious for fluctuating depending on the month |
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book_worm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 03:00 AM Response to Original message |
41. You're absolutely right--she hasn't. |
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Tarheel_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 03:10 AM Response to Original message |
43. she was the wife of a very popular president...end of story (eom) |
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mysteryman2 (159 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 04:11 AM Response to Original message |
48. Either has Obama |
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in_cog_ni_to (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 10:23 AM Response to Original message |
53. And ALAN KEYES is what? Obama had a cake walk to the Senate. Pick a new stone to throw... |
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HeraldSquare212 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 10:55 AM Response to Reply #53 |
59. This is a reply to the Clinton campaign's statement that Obama never had a serious Rep challenger, |
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mtnsnake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 10:41 AM Response to Original message |
56. Bullsthit. Hillary has had the entire Republican Army as a serious Republican challenger |
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paulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 10:54 AM Response to Original message |
58. the race against Lazio was very close until the last week |
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SKKY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 10:56 AM Response to Original message |
60. I always wondered about that... |
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Maribelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 10:59 AM Response to Original message |
61. February 6, 2000 - Clinton-Giuliani Senate Race Is Too Close To Call |
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Thepricebreaker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 10:59 AM Response to Original message |
62. In all fairness either did Obama - Keyes was a pushover n/t |
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Tennessee Gal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 11:01 AM Response to Original message |
63. When did Obama have a serious Republican challenger? |
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