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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 04:39 PM Original message |
Obama has fooled his supporters by mischaracterizing the debate on the IWR. |
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SoFlaJet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 04:41 PM Response to Original message |
1. SIGH.............. |
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Kittycat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 04:45 PM Response to Reply #1 |
9. Too some extent, maybe. |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 04:45 PM Response to Reply #1 |
10. most of Obama supporters post threads that diss Hillary. and |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 05:01 PM Response to Reply #1 |
41. They had better, lest those people get banned. |
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Maribelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 05:02 PM Response to Reply #1 |
43. Don't hold your breath ... |
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Kahuna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 10:00 PM Response to Reply #1 |
108. Once a nominee is chosen, they won't be allowed to bash him/her on DU... |
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workinclasszero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 07:40 AM Response to Reply #1 |
142. Hopefully but.. |
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Rock_Garden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 04:42 PM Response to Original message |
2. Wonderful piece, mp. K&R! |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 05:41 PM Response to Reply #2 |
73. Thank you! |
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Little Star (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 07:43 PM Response to Reply #73 |
99. Barack Obama's Problems with the Iraq War Vote |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 05:32 PM Response to Reply #73 |
146. Hope more read this! |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 04:42 PM Response to Original message |
3. Thank you. People do not understand what was going on at all. Or don't want to. nt |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 04:55 PM Response to Reply #3 |
30. Joe Wilson is one of those people. |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 05:00 PM Response to Reply #30 |
40. Wilson's supporting Clinton. nt |
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Straight Shooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 04:43 PM Response to Original message |
4. "Joe Wilson looking for his 15 minutes of fame." |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 04:43 PM Response to Original message |
5. Really? How'd he do that? |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 04:46 PM Response to Reply #5 |
11. So you say Hans Blix is a liar? |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 04:46 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. Hans Blix was against the war in Iraq. |
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Maribelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 04:56 PM Response to Reply #12 |
33. Hans Blix warned Iraq of serious consequences if it attempted to hinder or delay his mission |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 04:58 PM Response to Reply #33 |
36. Who do you think Blix would rather be president? |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 05:00 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. The one who voted the way he wanted: Hillary Clinton. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 05:04 PM Response to Reply #38 |
45. Then that's a shame. |
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Maribelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 05:06 PM Response to Reply #36 |
50. Blix would want the brave lady. |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 04:59 PM Response to Reply #12 |
37. Here is what Blix wanted: (It's not what Obama has convinced you) |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 05:05 PM Response to Reply #37 |
48. Why has this truth been hidden on the netroots for so long? |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 06:01 PM Response to Reply #37 |
82. Hill has often said --to let the inspectors do their work'--gets drowned out |
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JTFrog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 08:43 AM Response to Reply #82 |
136. And what do the inspectors say about her letting them do their work? |
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sloppyjoe25s (664 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 07:12 PM Response to Reply #37 |
98. Hans Blix was a Patsy |
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sloppyjoe25s (664 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 06:18 PM Response to Reply #11 |
90. Very weak argument |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 08:07 AM Response to Reply #11 |
132. ... |
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Mojorabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 04:51 PM Response to Reply #5 |
22. So was I |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 04:44 PM Response to Original message |
6. Obama was brilliantly prophetic in his 2002 anti-dumb-war speech: |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 04:49 PM Response to Reply #6 |
17. O.=1. hates it, 2, does't how how he would vote, 3 funds it. 4. runs for Pres and opposes it! |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 04:54 PM Response to Reply #17 |
26. 5. gets supporters to buy he's been consistant! |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 04:55 PM Response to Reply #26 |
32. oops I will have to work on getting that into one line:-) |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 06:33 PM Response to Reply #17 |
94. Apparently BS is a prerequisite for supporting the Goddess of War. |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 04:50 PM Response to Reply #6 |
20. "I'm not privy to Senate intelligence reports. What would I have done? I don't know." |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 06:25 PM Response to Reply #20 |
93. "What I know is that from my vantage point the case was not made for authorizing the war." |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 05:06 PM Response to Reply #6 |
49. And Joe Wilson actually fought to stop the war |
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thereismore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 04:44 PM Response to Original message |
7. Isn't this the same piece that gets recycled over and over? The way I see it, |
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bunnies (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 04:44 PM Response to Original message |
8. Yes. We're all idiots who are easily fooled. |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 04:47 PM Response to Reply #8 |
14. leave out the 'all' and I will give op a high 5. |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 04:48 PM Response to Reply #8 |
15. How about ' "Is that what really happened?? I had no idea! Why does Obama lie to me?" |
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Blue State Bandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 04:54 PM Response to Reply #15 |
27. When I heard Obama's speech, I said, |
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Akoto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 04:56 PM Original message |
Hate to tell you, but ... |
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Bicoastal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 04:47 PM Response to Original message |
13. Well, I'm not going to pretend that he isn't biased in favor of the Clintons. |
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Blue State Bandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 04:51 PM Response to Reply #13 |
23. True that. |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 05:08 PM Response to Reply #13 |
52. As a foreign service officer who served in the Bush administration too |
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Blue State Bandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 09:26 PM Response to Reply #52 |
103. I got that part. |
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maxsolomon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 04:49 PM Response to Original message |
16. selective memory |
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truebrit71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 04:50 PM Response to Original message |
18. Nice spin. Not buying it. She knew what it was for and got bullied into submission. |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 04:53 PM Response to Reply #18 |
25. O.=1. hates it, 2, does't how how he would vote, 3 funds it. 4. runs for Pres and opposes it! |
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Blue State Bandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 05:05 PM Response to Reply #25 |
47. So you would have him leave the troops stuck in the desert... |
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truebrit71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 05:15 PM Response to Reply #47 |
61. Thank you...you see, this is the part of that argument that the Hillbots can't seem to fathom... |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 06:04 PM Response to Reply #61 |
84. What part do you not understand?--as BOTH have a phased withdrawal--NO stuck in the desert! |
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Blue State Bandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 09:34 PM Response to Reply #84 |
104. That neither of them can implement unilaterally until 2009 |
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Maribelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 09:47 PM Response to Reply #104 |
105. Voting against the funding would have been highly symbolic under the rubber stamp congress. |
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Blue State Bandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 03:24 AM Response to Reply #105 |
110. ((((shakes head)))) |
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Maribelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 09:14 AM Response to Reply #110 |
114. Obama's fairy tale will get you nowhere, and would further degrade any respect we might have left ..... |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 06:00 PM Response to Reply #47 |
81. Irrelevant since both have phased withdrawals. |
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BlackVelvet04 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:23 PM Response to Reply #47 |
139. There's always enough money to bring the troops home. n/t |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 05:08 PM Response to Reply #18 |
56. Why did Hans Blix support it? |
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DemGa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 04:50 PM Response to Original message |
19. Obama says he "got it right" |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 04:52 PM Response to Reply #19 |
24. Obamacampers base there assessment on a NON-existance vote. |
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tabasco (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 07:52 PM Response to Reply #24 |
145. Learn to spell at a 4th-grade level before you preach to me about how stupid I am. |
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maxsolomon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 04:56 PM Response to Reply #19 |
34. i think he's self-serving in the way he spins his actions/non-actions |
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Submariner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 04:51 PM Response to Original message |
21. That vote was political bullshit |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 05:01 PM Response to Reply #21 |
42. Not as seen by Hans Blix,chief United Nations weapons inspector: |
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Submariner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 05:08 PM Response to Reply #42 |
55. So What? |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 11:59 AM Response to Reply #42 |
127. Why does no one remember... |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 04:20 PM Response to Reply #42 |
140. ... |
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HeraldSquare212 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 04:54 PM Original message |
"But he lied to me!" nt |
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cjmastaw (195 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 04:54 PM Response to Original message |
28. This is getting old. How many times is this going to be posted? |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 06:05 PM Response to Reply #28 |
85. till people 'get it" |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 04:54 PM Response to Original message |
29. Obama's opposition to the war was part of his US Senate primary campaign too. |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 05:09 PM Response to Reply #29 |
57. "he was the only Democrat in the primary to take that firm stand" |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 05:20 PM Response to Reply #57 |
64. Umm...He ran on opposing the war. |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 05:24 PM Original message |
And he won because of that |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 05:45 PM Response to Original message |
76. What is wrong with you? |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 05:48 PM Response to Reply #76 |
78. He introduced it after he flip flopped when his presidential campaign began |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 05:55 PM Response to Reply #78 |
80. His position was always the same. He never flip flopped. |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 06:16 PM Response to Reply #80 |
89. He did |
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napi21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 04:55 PM Response to Original message |
31. THANKS! I've posted the same info many times here on DU, but this |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 04:58 PM Response to Reply #31 |
35. Clinton's vote was correct, and is not what Obama wants people to think it was. |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 05:04 PM Response to Reply #35 |
44. Key language in her statement: |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 05:12 PM Response to Reply #44 |
59. "A vote for it is not a vote to rush to war; ...use these powers wisely and as a last resort. " |
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soleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 05:00 PM Response to Original message |
39. Believing this was true is the fairy tale |
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frazzled (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 05:04 PM Response to Original message |
46. It was called "Joint Resolution to Authorize the Use of United States Armed Forces against Iraq" |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 05:08 PM Response to Reply #46 |
54. It wasn't called the "WAR WAR WAR bill of Hillary Clinton!!!" after all? |
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HeraldSquare212 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 10:11 PM Response to Reply #54 |
109. I suppose it would have had to be named that for her to understand it. |
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maximusveritas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 05:07 PM Response to Original message |
51. When did Joe Wilson first oppose the war? |
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enough already (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 05:08 PM Response to Original message |
53. So Joe Wilson trusted Bush too. |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 05:12 PM Response to Original message |
58. Yes on IWR = against war, and No on IWR = for war? |
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VotesForWomen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 05:31 PM Response to Reply #58 |
69. so how did obama vote on IWR? oh that's right, he wasn't in the senate at the time, so you can |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 05:54 PM Response to Reply #69 |
79. So how did Clinton vote on the IWR? oh that's right, she voted for it |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 05:13 PM Response to Original message |
60. Hillary's approach -- and that of the majority of Democrats in the Senate |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 05:15 PM Response to Original message |
62. Ted Kennedy somehow knew that Bush was going to undermine Congress |
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smoogatz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 05:18 PM Response to Original message |
63. I admire Ambassador Wilson a great deal. |
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Maribelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 05:24 PM Response to Reply #63 |
67. What I Knew Before the Invasion by Bob Graham |
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Kolesar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 05:38 PM Response to Reply #67 |
71. Pelosi said that she saw the same intelligence &she said there was no case for war |
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smoogatz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 06:41 PM Response to Reply #67 |
95. Most could not. But almost half did. Along with Linc Chaffee. |
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VotesForWomen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 05:23 PM Response to Original message |
65. correct; of course O's appeal is that people can project whatever they want on to him. nt |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 06:07 PM Response to Reply #65 |
86. its part of the SWOON effect. |
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Kolesar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 06:09 PM Response to Reply #86 |
87. It is part of the "anybody but Clinton effect" |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 06:46 PM Response to Reply #87 |
96. yeah--sure is. |
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IsItJustMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 05:24 PM Response to Original message |
66. No doubt inmy mind that Obama is shooting a line of BS a mile long, and I can't blame him for it. |
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nonconformist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 05:31 PM Response to Original message |
68. I have tremendous respect for Joe Wilson. K & R. nt |
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riverwalker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 05:37 PM Response to Original message |
70. Posted about 6498 times |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 05:46 PM Response to Reply #70 |
77. This is not a "year old" - it is today's HuffPo Wilson blog. Typical response, though... |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 07:02 PM Response to Reply #77 |
143. :crickets: |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 05:40 PM Response to Original message |
72. LOL, back to the old "I didn't think the Authorization for Use of Military Force meant war!" excuse. |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 05:43 PM Response to Reply #72 |
75. "A vote for it is not a vote to rush to war; ...use these powers wisely and as a last resort. " |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 08:43 PM Response to Reply #75 |
100. So both Hillary and Joe Wilson trusted Bush's wise judgement. Dumbasses. |
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JAbuchan08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 08:47 PM Response to Reply #75 |
101. too bad a personal speech doesn't equal an amendment to the bill |
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johnnydrama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 09:23 PM Response to Reply #75 |
102. just curious |
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Maribelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 10:58 AM Response to Reply #102 |
122. Senator Russ Feingold 10/0/2002 |
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Kolesar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 05:42 PM Response to Original message |
74. I would love to hear what weapons inspector Scott Ritter thinks about this |
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Political Heretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 06:02 PM Response to Original message |
83. too little, too late. |
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Kolesar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 06:11 PM Response to Reply #83 |
88. Maybe this is why Obama outlasted John Edwards...? |
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Political Heretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 06:21 PM Response to Reply #88 |
91. Possible. Though I supported John Edwards: |
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Kolesar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 06:24 PM Response to Reply #91 |
92. I funded Edwards. Hillary and Barack are evenly matched, |
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AX10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 06:48 PM Response to Original message |
97. Joe Wilson has already been demonized around here. |
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sendero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 09:49 PM Response to Original message |
106. What bullshit.. |
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Maribelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 09:59 PM Response to Reply #106 |
107. You should have been aware at the time that many views were opposite yours. |
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sendero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 07:20 AM Response to Reply #107 |
111. Try.. |
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Maribelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 08:14 AM Response to Reply #111 |
112. Obama might have plagiarized parts of Hillary's 10/10/02 floor speech for his 10/26/02 fluff puff. |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 08:40 AM Response to Original message |
113. ... |
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Maribelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 10:47 AM Response to Reply #113 |
121. ... |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 01:30 PM Response to Reply #121 |
130. ... |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 07:37 PM Response to Reply #113 |
144. yeehaw! |
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AnarchoFreeThinker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 09:21 AM Response to Original message |
115. Note: blind faith in malicious leaders is good. Dissent bad. |
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RunningFromCongress (519 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 09:33 AM Response to Original message |
116. EVERYONE knew it was a vote to go to war. Go look back on this forum, you'd see that. |
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calmblueocean (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 09:36 AM Response to Original message |
117. The rewriting of history that Clinton supporters are trying to do is appalling. Refute this. |
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Maribelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 10:19 AM Response to Reply #117 |
119. When the USSC placed Bush in power.... |
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calmblueocean (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 11:29 AM Response to Reply #119 |
123. Wellstone got it right. |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:12 PM Response to Reply #117 |
138. Oh. You're right. Hillary Clinton alone is responsible for Bush's War in Iraq. It's all her fault. |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 09:52 AM Response to Original message |
118. This is good for my own reading, but you can't reach those who just want to blame Democrats |
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Maribelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 10:22 AM Response to Reply #118 |
120. Bush had not choice but to pull the inspectors ... |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 11:33 AM Response to Original message |
124. the Levin Ammendment? |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 11:34 AM Response to Original message |
125. Sadly, we here know whats going on better than he does. |
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krkaufman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 11:58 AM Response to Original message |
126. Wilson again selectively filters Obama's 2004 comments. |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 01:10 PM Response to Reply #126 |
128. So, you didn't support Edwards or Kerry in 04 or Edwards in 08? |
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krkaufman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 02:04 PM Response to Reply #128 |
131. I did not support Kerry or Edwards in '04, primarily because of their war votes. |
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LSK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 01:11 PM Response to Original message |
129. why would Joe Wilson know about a State Senator from IL????? |
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Apollo11 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 08:24 AM Response to Original message |
133. Hillary and Edwards and Kerry believed Powell and Rice and Blair. |
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Imagevision (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 08:29 AM Response to Original message |
134. George Bush made it clear, he was going to war with or without Britain's support |
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indimuse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 08:34 AM Response to Original message |
135. he was against IT..before he was FOR IT!...uh..oh..He's against IT..AGAIN! |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 10:02 AM Response to Reply #135 |
137. Voting exactly the same as Clinton on every Iraq War vote shows how much Change! he represents! |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 07:24 AM Response to Original message |
141. .. |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 12:57 PM Response to Original message |
147. Kicking this because another DUbama has just blamed Iraq on the vote of one senator. |
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