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calmblueocean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 03:47 PM
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Clinton-Obama is inevitable.
At least that's the way it looks to me. There are two major camps, and shutting either one out completely will bitterly divide the party and possibly lose us the election.

Here on DU and in their respective camps, tempers are running high, but out in America at large, most people think we just have two great candidates and wish we didn't have to choose. I'd previously thought that Obama's calling this election "the past vs. the future" would make it difficult for them to come together, but it would actually be a continuation of Obama's unity message -- finding areas of common ground and uniting instead of dividing.

The momentum of a Clinton-Obama ticket would be immense and historic. At a time when Republican message discipline and party unity is in shambles, we would be demonstrating those qualities ourselves for perhaps the first time in my life.

As an Obama supporter, I'm not really happy about this ticket, and to be honest, I don't know if Obama will make the sacrifice of handing over his political future to Hillary. But I do think Clinton-Obama is the strongest ticket we've got. There are just too many people in each camp who will be alienated if either runs without the other.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 03:47 PM
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1. Any ticket with Clinton
is a win for McCain
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 03:49 PM
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2. Not only Obama but any other 1st tier democrat is not going to accept
a Clinton VP knowing that they will have to compete in a rarified atmosphere with two presidents. Not an anti Hillary rant just reality.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 03:49 PM
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3. I hope not. Really hope Clinton does not get on the ticket. That way there are no excues
for what comes down the pike.

Shit is gonna be BAD in 2009 and it will be hard as fuck to fix. If she does anything she will be crucified from both sides and ruin it for another woman to run in the future.
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 03:49 PM
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4. I think that would be the strongest ticket.
I just don't think it's realistically feasible anymore.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 03:50 PM
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5. I still think Clinton is going to lose a lot of momentum today.
And I don't think Ohio or Texas will make up for it.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 03:52 PM
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6. Obama/Anyone.
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 03:53 PM
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7. A Clinton in the WH again in 1st OR 2nd spot only ENSURES we lose the house and senate in a MAJOR
Edited on Sat Feb-09-08 03:53 PM by K Gardner
way, for a very very long time.. and that's IF she can win a GE. Hillary needs to go back to the Senate. Or we can make her ambassador to Iraq.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 03:55 PM
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8. inevitable?
Edited on Sat Feb-09-08 03:56 PM by mdmc
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 03:57 PM
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9. She can't put him on the ticket
She needs a strong conservative to try to offset the liberal label rants. Obama and Clinton will not be on the same ticket and that whispering is out there to convince people they can vote for Clinton and still get Obama. It's not true. If you want Obama, then that's what you need to fight for.
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NJObamaWoman Donating Member (572 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 04:02 PM
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12. Yup. Its patronizing to Obama supporters IMHO.
I'm not voting for Clinton no matter what.
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NJObamaWoman Donating Member (572 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 04:01 PM
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10. Hell NO. I wont accept that.. If thats the ticket I don't vote at all.
I hate Clinton (yeah and I'm a woman so you wanna call me sexist? huh) and that those people stand for. I think Obama if he accepts that VP spot will be political suicide. He WONT be a president in the future. He will be conforming to that old status quo system.

HELL NO that is not a dream ticket. Thats only a death ticket for Obama supporters. Its only a dream ticket because HRC NEEDS Obama's supporters. If HRC is so great than she needs to win the WH on her own without Obama.


I can't or wont accept that. I will leave this party and become an independent if Obama conforms to being the Clintons VP. At that point I will hope the Right wins destroy both clinton and obama.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 04:02 PM
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11. I'm afraid that each has used too many negatives
Edited on Sat Feb-09-08 04:04 PM by Blue_In_AK
against the other, as the Bill Moyers' guest pointed out last night. For instance, Hillary has said that she'd be ready to be president from "day one," implying that Obama wouldn't be. That's a bad meme to use if you're picking a vice president, who WOULD have to be ready from day one if anything happened to the pres. Obama has used his own set of insults against Hillary. His supporters here, even in this thread, have bought into them.

If both of them are on the ticket, the Republicans will have a double-dose of our own anti-whoever talking points to use against the whole ticket. I'm not sure it would be a good idea, even though on the surface it looks like a good way to unite the party.
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Sulawesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 04:12 PM
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13. As an Obama supporter, you think the best ticket is topped by HRC?
I would hazard to guess that you are not an Obama supporter if you really think that.
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calmblueocean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 04:43 PM
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14. Not the best in the sense of governing, but the best in the sense of keeping our base whole.
I think any ticket with Hillary on it has all her deficits, but this is going to be decided by the superdelegates, and whatever decision they make is going to alienate a big chunk of our voters. I think they recognize that and will push for a unity ticket.
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Unsane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 04:44 PM
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15. Obama-Richardson is the ticket
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