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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 11:18 AM
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Look at the polls and see: Barack Obama is more electable than Hillary Clinton.
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sunonmars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 11:20 AM
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1. snooze, that tired old thing again
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 11:20 AM
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3. You shooze you lose. n/t
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 11:21 AM
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4. You Hillites sure loved the polls last year. I wonder what happened? NT
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 11:20 AM
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2. Of course. Just like Bush, Obama is the media darling
We Americans are a lazy bunch. It is so much easier to vote for the media darling than to actually know the facts.

Media tells us that Clinton is a racist bitch and Obama IS, and we just accept it and continue to eat our pizza.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 11:22 AM
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5. We can argue back and forth about why he's ahead.
But it doesn't really matter.
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 11:23 AM
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8. unfortunately, you are correct. We will elect a ham sandwich if the media spun it right
It is a shame, but true.
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HonestyIsAVirtue Donating Member (51 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 11:22 AM
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6. Your candidate is
responsible for more deaths than I can think of. How's that IWR? I'm furious
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 11:25 AM
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10. So is yours Honesty...
He voted to continue the war AGAIN AND AGAIN because it was safe for his political career. He has blood on his hands, just like Clinton.


To blame Clinton and Obama for his war is looking at the issues in a superficial way. As one poster said, "intellectually lazy." Much easier, but wrong.
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GoldieAZ49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 11:33 AM
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16. no it would be immoral to start a war (H voted for that)
and worse to then not pay for our service men and women to have what they need

Once we went in they HAD to fund it. Unless of course you never want to see another Democrat in office
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 11:35 AM
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17. Baloney. Every democrat in that Senate should have
ended this war. And they chose to do what was best for them politically. The bill, once vetoed, should not have been sent back any different. That is how Congress ends wars. Pull the plug.

They did not HAVE to fund it. It would have ended.
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GoldieAZ49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 11:43 AM
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18. Colin Powell told the President not to go in
"you break it, you have to fix it"

well they broke it.

Not fixing it would have led to the same situation that happened in Afghanistan when we helped run the Soviet Union out and then left without helping them set up a government of their own. That mistake led to the rise of Bin Laden and the Taliban.

Not much of an alternative, is it?
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 11:22 AM
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7. Um......
LA Times/Bloomberg shows Hillary far more electable. The NBC/WSJ poll shows Obama slightly more electable. The Fox News poll is a total push on the subject.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 11:24 AM
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9. No they don't. n/t
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 11:28 AM
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12. Do you want me to post the damn numbers? That was Romney-esque.
Fox:
Hillary 44 McCain 45(McCain +1)
Obama 44 McCain 43(Obama +1)

NBC/WSJ:
McCain 46 Hillary 44(McCain +2)
Obama 42 Hillary 42(Tie)

LA Times/Bloomberg:
Hillary 46 McCain 42(Hillary +4)
McCain 42 Obama 41(McCain +1)

What the hell is your problem with the truth?
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 11:30 AM
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13. I take that back again; those numbers are old, from the 22nd.
The Fox numbers are newer.
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 11:32 AM
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15. And there is hardly any difference between them.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 11:28 AM
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11. Oh wait, yes they do.
I guess I'm wrong then.
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Prefer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 11:30 AM
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14. WIth Barack - there is NO WAY we can lose!
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 11:59 AM
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19. Until the Media starts
turning Obama into Hamburger.
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