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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 08:33 PM
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Would a GE Product Boycott Encourage MSNBC to Put a Sock in Tweety’s Mouth? 3 Big Lies He Told Today
Edited on Fri Feb-01-08 09:12 PM by McCamy Taylor
As I documented two days ago, Chris “Tweety” Matthews was a player in the corporate media wars against Al Gore in 2000 and John Edwards this year. He participated in spreading the Big Lie Edwards is a phony. He declared the Edwards campaign dead after Edwards upset second place finish in Iowa, when Edwards began to rise in national polls, putting a sharp halt to that campaign’s momentum. (Who would send money or change their affiliation to a campaign that the pundits had declared “dead”?) He attempted to include Edwards in the politics of racial discord which he and MSNBC consultant Pat Buchanan were spreading, by accusing Edwards of standing in Obama’s way---in the way of the nation’s first African-American candidate.

Tweety must be very pleased with himself. He played a big roll in knocking out the Democratic candidate that might have cost his corporate bosses money through his policies of reform. He also made sure that a Democratic candidate that had broad appeal in the general election would not receive serious consideration in the primary, increasing the chances that John McCain, favorite son of the Pentagon (GE’s patron) would have a shot at the White House.

Some media whores might take a break, but Chris Matthews is on a roll, and he has no shame. He does not care that every John Edwards supporter in the country (and there are a lot of them) knows exactly what he did to their candidate. He is continuing to do what he does best. Tonight, during the first ten minutes of Hardball I heard Matthews deliver three Big Lies.

BIG LIE No. 1: The War in Iraq is a Democratic War Bullshit. That war isn’t really a Republican War, either, though that stupid party has been so damn slow to repudiate it that it has caused them irreparable harm. The War in Iraq is a Bush-Cheney-Colin Powell-Rumsefeld-NeoCon War. They lied to the American people and invaded that country under false pretenses, because they coveted its oil. It is all there in black and white in the Project for the New American Century . Chris Matthews claims that he always knew that there were no WMDs and therefore everyone else in the country knew too. Chris Matthews is a Big Fat Liar . The administration terrorized American citizens, and Matthews and his network helped them to do it. (And they fired Peter Arnett and Donahue so that they would not get in the way of selling the war.) Members of Congress were just as worried as anyone else. They did not want to do the wrong thing. It sure as hell did not occur to them that people like the president and Colin Powell would lie . Most Americans are idealistic. Most of them believe in something. It was easy for private citizens like me and for non-members of Congress like Obama to say "Hold on there." It was much harder for the people who held the nation's security in their hands to take a stand, when their judgment was distorted by fear and the sense of responsibility that comes with the job. Every parent knows how you start to overreact when it is your child. If Obama is ever the president, he will see that things look different when it is all his responsibility.

But that does not make it a Democratic War. It is not even an American War. It is a 100% Neo-Con War, aided and abetted by the GOP.

There is a larger motive for this lie. I predicted that we would be hearing The War in Iraq is a Democratic War , because that was a key ingredient in both 1968 and 1972, and whoever is directing the corporate media (I suspect a combination of Karl Rove and Pat Buchanan) is using those two elections as a model. In both of these elections, the Democrats lost, because the base would not turn out to vote. The base would not turn out, because they believed that the Viet Nam War was a Democratic War. In 1972, this was nonsense. Nixon had lied in 1968 when he said he had a secret plan to end the war. He escalated the war. And he took the war into Cambodia and Laos. However, CREEP and Buchanan were able to use the war against the Democrats anyway.

The Big Lie The War in Iraq is a Democratic War is very important for the GOP’s chances this fall. . That is why Karl Rove himself introduced it last fall And that is why you will see more and more media whores like Tweety repeating it. When they can show clips of Democrats like Obama accusing Hillary of being the cause of the war, this strengthens their case. If they have their way, by this fall, the Democratic base will be so disgusted with their own party, they will sit out the election, convinced that this really is a “Democratic War.”

Sound impossible? Who would have thought in early 2004 that anyone could label war hero John Kerry a coward? If Tweety and people like him repeat “This a Democratic War” over and over again enough times, you can be damn sure they will get people to believe it.


BIG LIE No.2. Hillary is a Bitch who only pretends to have a heart. The way that Tweety laughed when he described the civil debate between Hillary and Obama was disgusting. His implication was clear. In New Hampshire, Hillary cried crocodile tears for votes and during the debate, she put on an act, disguising her wicked witch of the west persona in order to court the voters. But Matthews knows better. Wink, wink, nudge, nudge. Did Tweety apologize for his sexist comments about Hillary? What a crock!

The Hillary is a Bitch Big Lie only works because she is a woman. Professional woman are judged in different ways than men. If they are perceived to be uncaring, then they are reviled. Men in positions of authority can get away with being “cool” or “aloof” since these are considered traditionally masculine characteristics which can enhance aggressiveness and other desirable traits. The very best (or nastiest) way to slime any woman is to label her as unfeeling or uncaring.

This leads to an important question. Why is the press attempting to cut down Hillary and prop up Obama? I do not think that the corporate media (and MSNBC in particular) prefers one to the other. They are simply attempting to force the Democrats to go to the convention without a winner. Again, Chicago 1968 is the goal. If Hillary and Obama go to the convention, each with fiercely devoted delegates and a bitter battle ensues and the loser leaves in disgust, taking his or her delegates with him, a fractured party will result. This will cause decreased Democratic turn out and help the GOP.

If Obama were to suddenly rise in the polls, Hillary would be the one getting the help. The goal is to keep the Democratic race as close as possible. In contrast, during the same hour of Hardball John McCain was anointed the inevitable winner, even though he is much more likely to face a fractured party and a divided convention and low turnout of members of his own party who despise him. Regarding his "100 years of war" he was called "honest". (!!!!)Not a war supporter. Hillary, who has promised to bring home the troops within a year, is the one who loves the war. McCain is the peace candidate according the wacky world of MSNBC.

BIG LIE No.3 Hillary ‘ghettoized’ Obama. Oh man! Pat Buchanan may be gone but his words linger on!

I have wondered how MSNBC could justify having the mastermind behind CREEP, the Committee to Re-Elect the President delivering analysis on the Democratic primary. Buchanan's job was to get Nixon re-elected by interfering with the 1972 Democratic primary. He drew up plans to attribute slanders against one Democratic candidate to another Democratic candidate. He also came up with the “bad endorsement” (which we may have seen already. A Bush minister friend endorsed Obama, then revealed that he runs an anti-gay program.). He advised sabotaging meetings and other dirty tricks, And then he lied to Congress about doing it. On the night of the South Carolina primary Buchanan's race baiting was so embarrassing that Joe Scarborough told him to shut up. I guess that is why I do not see Buchanan on MSNBC as much these days. However, there is no need for him to appear on TV, when he has Chris Matthews to deliver his propaganda for him.

“Ghettoize” is straight from Pat Buchanan’s recent article, in which he distorts what Hillary said and did to give the impression that it was her and not the corporate media that introduced race into the race. In fact, it was people like Tweety, he accused New Hampshire voters of being racist, and it was Obama voters who misrepresented Hillary’s comments about JFK (that lead to the Kennedy endorsement of Obama) as remarks about MLK Jr.

Why would the GOP want to create a word like “ghettoize”? Three reasons. It adds to the Hillary is a bitch big lie. It splits the Democratic Party, increasing the likelihood of a Democratic Convention that is a war zone like the one in Chicago 1968. And most evil of all, it makes people think of Obama and ghetto at the same time—two concepts that are not normally linked in the minds of most Americans. Because if Obama is the nominee, the GOP will resort to the tried and true slur which they always use against Black men. He is sooooo scary Or, in Obama’s case , Obama is a scary Black muslim .

Three Big Lies in 10 minutes. That must be some kind of record. Only a motor mouth like Tweety could manage something like that.

I wonder, would a boycott of GE products---light bulbs, appliances, the works—encourage MSNBC to put a sock in Tweety’s mouth? Is it too much to ask for the news media to present the news and not propaganda for one political party?

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Freida5 Donating Member (649 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 08:36 PM
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1. I am all for a GE -MSNBC/NBC/CNBC boycott of all advertisers because they are so anti Clinton.
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Freida5 Donating Member (649 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 08:37 PM
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2. Might as well start with Mercedes Benz
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neutron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 06:27 AM
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39. We stopped buying anything GE and
Edited on Sun Feb-03-08 06:29 AM by neutron
don't watch NBC or MSNBC.
They let Kerry get Swiftboated, and hurt Dean and Al Gore as well.
WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING about this!
(I finally disconnected Cable)
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Freida5 Donating Member (649 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 08:38 PM
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4. Crest white strips
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huddledmass Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 11:21 PM
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27. Comcast is the biggest
advertiser on my MSNBC. I've dropped my cable and I will spend my Super Duper Tsunami Tuesday night watching Charlie Gibson or Katie Couric.
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spag68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 11:49 PM
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37. Crest white strips don't anyway
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nightrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 08:59 PM
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10. GE boycott
When GE got into "nukulur" energy years ago, that's when I started making my purchasing decisions and opted out of GE products. I hope more folks will join.
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neutron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 06:32 AM
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41. Shit I didn't know GE was into Nukes!
Edited on Sun Feb-03-08 06:32 AM by neutron
Thanks for the info.
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neutron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 06:31 AM
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40. They are Anti Democrat! They let Kerry get Swiftboated
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KennedyGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 08:38 PM
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3. Its appalling..
MSMBC is out of control with its never ending Clinton hatred...
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 08:40 PM
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5. "Joe Scarborough told him to shut up."
I don't care what people say, I kinda like Joe.
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Freida5 Donating Member (649 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 08:43 PM
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6. Joe need to be more fair and balanced as well
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 08:47 PM
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7. But he has his moments. He's a paleo Conservative who can occasionally go against Republicans
He was good during Katrina for example. I appreciate someone who isn't in lock step all the damn time, even if I rarely agree with them.
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 08:48 PM
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8. You know.. this is not *just* about Hillary. From where I sit, I hear nothing but constant
coronation of Hillary, talk of her as the inevitible nominee, and how Obama can't possibly win the nomination. And yes, these are the same people who buried Edwards, who marginalized Al Gore and demonized the people counting the votes in Florida, circa 2000. Same people who frothed over and exacerbated the swiftboating of John Kerry and pushed the Dean Scream to the point where its all ANYONE I talked to KNEW about the last primary season OR Howard Dean.

But in all fairness, let's look across the aisle and see what they've done to the Republicans this year. Am I the only one who has noticed that after months of constant Romney and Huckabee coverage, these two have all but disappeared from MSNBC? They couldn't get air time if they ran across a stump stage naked (well, ok, maybe then). McCain has been mysteriously resurrected and coronated now as inevitible. Romney, even with all his $$ and ad buys, gets shit for coverage while McCain is wall-to-wall positive. So, we clearly have a coronation of McCain by MSNBC and by nearly everyone who is allowed to punditize on their sacred channel.

Maybe it isn't as clear who they're rooting for on the Dem side. I see a clear preference for and slant for Hillary. Others see a slant for Obama, or maybe they're keeping this one going as their "horserace". But just look at what they did to the Wonderful Debate from last night. They have spent hours today talking about the Hollywood Extravaganza and lamented about the Democratic association with the "hollywood types". Say what??? That's what they got from a substantive discussion on the issues where BOTH Obama and Clinton came off looking extremely good and during which our party seemed to be somewhat healed?

For more reasons than Hillary Coverage.. we MUST do something. I agree.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 09:02 PM
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11. Is that why they seem to have put a choke collar on Tweety
to get him to stop bashing Hillary? "We're trying to promote her, you fool" (gak!)
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 09:05 PM
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13. They are promoting a Democratic Convention food fight, not either candidate.
It takes two viable candidates at the Convention to recreate Chicago 1968.

So, if you can not tell which Dem they are supporting, but it is clear as day that they love McCain, maybe it isn't just you...
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 09:17 PM
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16. Excellent point.
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neutron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 06:39 AM
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42. Remember when Tweety Cut Off Sharpton's Speech
Edited on Sun Feb-03-08 06:40 AM by neutron
at the democratic convention. Righteously proclaiming it to be "negative"?
It was a GREAT speech. No negativity at all.
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balantz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 10:40 PM
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25. I see.
Makes perfect sense. Thanks.
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 09:03 PM
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12. McCain has been anointed by NBC, I suspect the Pentagon told GE "Promote McCain"
GE does whatever the Pentagon tells it to. That is why MSNBC has been so anti-Bush---because the Pentagon hates this quagmire in Iraq and refuses to invade Iran and despises the Neo-Cons. MSNBC has used Buchanan and KO because both are anti-NeoCon, each from a different side of the aisle.

However, now that a good old soldier has a chance of becoming president, the Pentagon will support him, and if GE wants to keep getting its contracts, it will have to support McCain, too.

KO had better watch his back. What was done to Dan Rather by CBS can be done to him by NBC. They will attack him for his strengths---his fairness, his truth telling, his anti-establishment stance. There have already been efforts to paint KO as a racist based upon some of his sports reporting. When Pat Buchanan was on his show in 2006 and made his horrifying pronouncement about how the GOP could retain control of Congress by reminding America that a Democratic Congress meant Rangel in control of Ways and Means, I thought Buchanan had lost his mind. But now I think that Buchanan was trying to create an image in the minds of Black America of KO as just another White Guy in a Suit sitting there with known bigot Pat Buchanan talking GOP race baiting Republican strategy as if it was something they did all the time.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 08:58 PM
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9. no....
they don`t care because their money is in defense and corporation production/sales. msnbc is a vanity cable production and if they dumped it would`t hurt their bottom line at all, in fact they would save money.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 09:12 PM
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14. you are right MSNBC is their propaganda tool..only..it is a tool for the defence corp! eom
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balantz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 10:11 PM
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20. Much more than vanity.
It is a VERY important tool and is used meticulously and to the utmost to sway the public into thinking and voting the way the defense corporations want. Part of the manipulation is not just news doctoring but making sure the public gets the right dose of hypnotization and programming to keep emotions and thoughts geared for supporting a society that will best benefit the agenda of the war profiteers.

And yes, without tinfoil, it is a conspiracy of the greatest magnitude.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 10:33 PM
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24. never thought of that..thanks!
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 09:16 PM
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15. Again, great work. K&R
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 09:41 PM
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17. smarten up.
Edited on Fri Feb-01-08 09:44 PM by bunnies
ever heard of the DLC? Hillary is its queen. Here a link to their take on the Iraq war 'Big lie' #1: "Liberals War": http://www.dlc.org/ndol_ci.cfm?contentid=253452&kaid=127&subid=171

Big Lie #2: Do you know her personally? If not, I guess you'd have no way to judge this. Do you have first hand insight into her personality? I didnt think so.

Hillary won NH because she got "emotional". I live in NH. Thats the reason she won. Deal with it. And as a professional woman... if I ever cried during a board meeting, Id expect to be fired.


Big Lie #3: slumlord. Jesse Jackson.

Also... Pat Buchanan was on Morning Joe this morning. If you havent seen him... you havent been watching.

And please provide a link to where Tweety called NH voters "racist". This NH voter would LOVE to see it.

edit:sp
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 11:24 PM
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28. Googling is easy. You should try it some time.
Edited on Fri Feb-01-08 11:34 PM by McCamy Taylor
Big Lie no. 3. Plug In Chris Matthews New Hampshire and racist and you get six hits, here is the first:

http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/chris_matthews_racist_paleface_voters_in_new_hampshire_are_what_did_obama_i/

MSNBC host Chris Matthews didn’t just uncork his line on Primary Night about how New Hampshire Democrats would have displayed their racism to pollsters if they heard an “Archie Bunker voice” on the other end of the line. He repeated it on Wednesday’s “Morning Joe” show on MSNBC. He was upset at anyone who thought the pollsters and pundits were wrong about the Obama victory, when white voters lied to pollsters: “Methinks Paleface speak with forked tongue.”

Matthews declared he thought this was over in 2006: “I thought white voters had stopped being what they want to be. And you know what it tells me? People aren’t proud of who they are.” Host Joe Scarborough, asking Matthews to address the alleged bigotry in New England, drew out Matthews, the former top aide to Boston-area Rep. Tip O’Neill, to denounce the whole Boston area: “There’s different kinds of prejudice, as you know, in the north than there is in the south, but it exists. It may not be ‘I think I’m better than you,’ but it might be ‘I don’t want to live next door to you.’”


Here is a different analysis of what happened in New Hampshire which makes more sense. This story says that New Hampshire's women always intended to vote for Hillary, they just declared themselves undecided until the last minute. This does not make them racist. This makes them Irish-American feminists who have been burned by leaving issues of reproductive freedom in the hands of male (Catholic) politicians. Political reporters knew that women were a powerful force in New Hampshire. They also knew that Democratic races there are unpredictable. McCarthy and McGovern both had upset victories that defied overnight polling. It was irresponsible for seasoned journalists like Tweety and all the rest to attempt to incite a war between Hillary and Obama supporters over race because of a difference of a few poll points in a state with a history of crazy elections like New Hampshire.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/01/18/AR2008011802705.html?tid=informbox

More links on how race was introduced into the primary in my journals

"The Press vs The 2008 Democratic Primary" http://journals.democraticunderground.com/McCamy%20Taylor/131

"Pat Buchanan The Lord of Lies "Ghettoizes" Barack and Demonizes Hillary" http://journals.democraticunderground.com/McCamy%20Taylor/129

Big Lie no. 1 "The War in Iraq is a Bipartisan War" or "The War in Iraq is the Democrat's Responsibility" (since Republicans just naturally want to shoot first and talk second) has been in the works for a while--and Dems have foolishly been giving the GOP ammo. I wrote about it last fall in my journal "Circular Firing Squad" http://journals.democraticunderground.com/McCamy%20Taylor/95

Remember when Karl Rove said that Congressional Democrats rushed to authorize the Iraq War bill before the 2002 elections? And at first Card said "No, it didn't happen that way" And then he got with the program. That was because they explained to him what the Big Lie was all about. It sounded crazy when Rove said it the first time. Big Lies always do at first. You have to keep repeating them. That was what the WaPo was doing with their "Pelosi Knew!" (about water boarding) headline. Make Dems even more guilty than Repubs (because the GOP is the hawk party so they are just doing their voters will). If you haven't noticed the media whores whispering "The Dems are just as guilty as the GOP" you haven't been listening. But today, Tweety used the words "Democratic War". And every time a Democratic organization accuses the candidate who may be our nominee of being personally responsible for the war, Pat Buchanan and Karl Rove rub their hands in glee and remember Humphrey in 1968.

Big Lie no. 2 What does Hillary's personality have to do with the campaign? If you are really a woman, then you know that a double standard exists in which women have to be young, pretty and polite and treat every man no matter how rude or ugly he is as if he is a sex god---all that as well as competent. The first female commander in chief should be able to be as much of a jack ass as any male president. When Obama is abrupt, no one call him a "witch". When McCain gets tough no one wonders if he has PMS. They are smearing Hillary in the way that woman are always smeared. It is nothing personal. If she were a Republican, she would be Saint Hillary.

From your post, I am guessing that you are one of the Obama supporters who thinks that corporate media is doing your candidate a favor? If so, read the rest of my post. At least you will be forewarned if he gets the nomination. When the Obama is a scary Black Muslim lies start flying, you will be soooo angry so will not be able to see straight. Rest assured that I will continue to post about media lies to defend the Democratic nominee no matter what the lies are, because I hate the Big Fat Liars and I am a yellow dog Democrat.

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rainy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 10:03 PM
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18. This is why I really believe Al Gore will come in at the last moment and
beat the media at their own game. He knew all about the media games. He will ride in at the last possible moment and steal the show.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 10:06 PM
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19. Lie #1 is lifted straight from Rove's playbook - or just book. He ran with it as soon
Edited on Fri Feb-01-08 10:07 PM by robbedvoter
as he re-emerged in public. I knew it was going to be picked by the MSM - and they'd run with it.
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fenriswolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 10:12 PM
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21. GE lost me forever in the NBC debate
currently writing to different advertisers of them telling them they support democratic censorship.
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Medusa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 10:14 PM
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22. MSNBC's ratings show that there aren't a hell of a lot of people
watching. And Chris Matthews & Joe Scarborough and the bow-tied idiot are good examples of why.
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totodeinhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 05:44 PM
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36. I don't think ratings have anything to do with it.
Fox is even worse than MSNBC and Fox is the top rated news channel.
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 10:18 PM
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23. There were plenty of people here at DU and in the media
who accused the Clintons of using the race card. Many made accusations here that The Clintons were trying to associate Obama with drugs, being a scary Black man, etc.

This is not limited to a single rant from MSNBC, this was post after post accusing the Clintons of racism.
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GoldieAZ49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 10:42 PM
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26. On point #1 I do not think he was referring to a political party
a democratic war as in a war to bring democracy to Iraq

This country is a republic, doesn't mean it is just for republicans
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 11:36 PM
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29. in a word, the answer is no.
He did exactly the same thing to Kerry in 2004. The thing to do is send lots of emails to MSNBC complaining. Loudly. Write to NBC and complain.

General Electric is a huge corporation--simply huge. You can't hurt them by not buying their light bulbs. Even if everyone on DU refused to buy any GE products for a year you wouldn't hurt them a bit. They make jet engines for commercial airlines, hospital equipment like the million-dollar MRI scanner, and a host of other very big ticket items. Their household appliances are now being made by some other companies--probably their light bulbs too. Their main business is not at the consumer level these days. They are a blue chip company, one of the largest corporations in the world, if not the largest. Last I heard they were second--but it shifts back and forth.

Mail targeted at Tweety's show directly will get some changes hopefully, if not his removal. It would be better if he would take what credibility he has and turn it around to the left's advantage. As for Pat Buchanan, whenever he says something, that's when I know the opposite is true. He hasn't got a clue.
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 11:44 PM
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30. Pat Buchanan has more than a clue. He is extremely crafty. Watch him closely
Edited on Fri Feb-01-08 11:46 PM by McCamy Taylor
He may play "innocent old coot" sometimes, but his eyes give him away. Very few people are truly skilled when they are trying to pull off a deception. Tony Snow could do it. So can W.

The problem with Buchanan is I think that he talks to the others behind the scenes and gets them to do the on air talking for him. I keep hearing other people at MSNBC parroting Buchanan lines. Like Matthews today with the "ghettoizing". Why would Tweety want to repeat a word like that which a known bigot like Buchanan came up with?

Buchanan has a reputation as being very well liked by other reporters who see him as "mostly harmless" to quote Douglas Adams. However, Buchanan managed to neutralize the threat of the Reform Party in 2000 for Bush-Cheney by picking a Black female as a running mate, assuring that neither of them would get votes. He advised Nixon to burn the tapes. He lied to Congress. He is an amoral old bastard who wishes that we could return to the days of segregation. And he thinks that lying and cheating are ok to achieve that goal.

They should not let him near the other journalists, many of whom are not as smart as he is.
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Virginian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 03:11 AM
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31. Matthews has been telling us that Hillary is the
presumptive Democratic nominee now for the past three years.
He, like all human beings, would rather be right than happy.

In the case of John Edwards, I was a little more than miffed at Letterman.
That was the first time I had ever seen such an awkward interview of a guest on his show. JE didn't even get to do a top 10. It got even worse when Dave brought attention to the hair.
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Helga Scow Stern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 05:06 AM
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32. And the lies can also be used to cover election theft....
"If Obama were to suddenly rise in the polls, Hillary would be the one getting the help. The goal is to keep the Democratic race as close as possible."

They come up with lies that make it plausible why the unlikely candidate wins. They will resort to theft if the race becomes unbalanced.
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fudge stripe cookays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 09:36 AM
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33. I'm already doing that.
After being forced to work for the biggest asshole known to mankind at their Waukesha facility, I'm boycotting them on my own. No GE products will EVER enter my household again. The Edwards thing just makes me happier to do it.
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Phred42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 01:59 PM
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34. MEIDA MATTERS has the Goods
Edited on Sat Feb-02-08 02:13 PM by Phred42
And what about his acting like a hard nippled highschool cheerleader for Bush's package during Mission Accomplished?

"We're All Neocons Now!" - kiss my entire ass!


www.matthewsmonitor.com

This is Media Matters site devoted to Tweety. Great stuff here.

Should have named it

Tweetymonitor or
Tweetymon or
Tweetywatch or
?

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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 03:59 PM
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35. Tweety Knows Who Signs His Paychecks would be a good title
Edited on Sat Feb-02-08 04:03 PM by McCamy Taylor
About him saying "Democratic War" (pause).... last night, it reminded me of the movie Idiocracy and how all the cabinet members in the White House say "Brought to you by Carl's Jr" because they get paid each time they say it. Could MSM pundits be getting a little something extra in their checks whenever they use the phrase "Democratic War" (pause) .... on TV?

Maybe we should start keeping track. I think maybe today I will write about another Big Lie that the Bureau of Propaganda is throwing at us. This one straight from Karl Rove.
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Phred42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 12:55 PM
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44. Tweety is lucky that He & Olbermann work for the same Corporation
That's the only thing keeping him from ending up on WORST PERSON or as the subject of a SPECIAL COMMENT.

KO will show some REAL guts when he starts calling Tweety on his lies, distortions and Bullshit.
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liberal hypnotist Donating Member (391 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 06:20 AM
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38. Simply turn him off!
Chris Matthews is a sick bigot. He is only a political psychopathic talking head. The cure for Tweetyitis is to commit to never watch him again. Ask your friends to turn him off. Ask strangers to turn him off.

Talking points: He dislikes women. He makes inflammatory remarks. He is much like Bill ORielly- I never watch him. He is much like Rush Limpburger-I never listen to him. Soon he will be like Nancy Grace- dismissed to the little channel. Tweety is a bad influence on adults. Lock him out!

Only by avoiding him will the possibility of a responsible news person emerge.
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AlertLurker Donating Member (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 11:52 AM
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43. Lie #1 is NO LIE AT ALL. It IS NOW a Democratic War.
Started by Republicans, sure, but the Democratic Party has had several chances to END and completely DE-FUND the war. Nobody is forcing them to write funding bills, or vote for anyone else's...

They ran very successfully on a platform of ending and de-funding the Iraq War in 2006. They have not ended it, hence, they now OWN THE WAR.
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 09:43 PM
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47. I am glad you are from Canada, because I would be sad if any U.S. citizen believed this GOP lie
and ended up voting to give the NeoCons 4 more years of war and 4 more years to exploit Iraq's oil because of this lie.
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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 09:36 PM
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45. One is not enough for that big mouth. Please click here,
and thanks for all your hard work McCamy.


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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 09:41 PM
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46. Great art!
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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 09:49 PM
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49. My pleasure!
Put a sock in it is one of my favorite expressions from P.G. Wodehouse. I don't know if he coined the phrase but he uses it in just about every book.
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 09:48 PM
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48. New journal today--How NBC/GE and the Pentagon + Generals working to sell McCain
Edited on Sun Feb-03-08 09:49 PM by McCamy Taylor
Their job will be much easier if they can portray it as a "Democratic War" though they can manage it even against Obama the Peacenik by claiming that he wants to cut and run and strip America of its honor after we (Republicans and Democrats) made a commitment.

You realize that if McCain can convince Americans that they were not completely duped by W., that there was some purpose for this war in Iraq, they will clutch at those straws. And the Pentagon is going to give him all the straw he needs.

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/McCamy%20Taylor/139
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Medusa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 09:52 PM
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50. It needs to be a public campaign with its own website
and as many links to liberal websites (and other websites) that we can get. I'm in.
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