"It's about delegates, not voters." Preach it, O-man

[Proud2BAmurkin]

That anyone thinks this dude is a strong candidate is frightening.

:rofl:

[sunonmars]

1. did he say that? Honestly did he?

If he did, he just flipped a finger at every voter.

[joshcryer]

8. No one would phrase it that way, but that's obviously the implication.

[robbedvoter]

11. Pretty damn close:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4270970

[zanne]

2. Whether or not you agree with it, he's right.

It IS about delegates. What did you think it was?

[sunonmars]

3. it not right

Voters matter, fuck the delegates, he needs voters to win the GE, not Delegates.

[no name no slogan]

5. Actually, you need electors to win the GE

A majority of votes doesn't mean a think if you don't have electoral college electors. Just ask Al Gore.

[Kittycat]

7. And even when that fails - there's always SCOTUS to change things around

:banghead:

[joshcryer]

10. Electoral votes more closely resemble population votes, at least.

[LSparkle]

6. He needs to win the Electoral College in the GE

When did they stop teaching Civics in schools again???

[joshcryer]

9. Oh, proportionate delegates are a lot easier to win than "all or nothing" electoral votes.

Obama is, as his manager said this morning on Joe, banking on those "proportional delegates." Yaknow, the ones where if you get 30% of the vote you get something like 49% of the delegates.

[LSparkle]

16. Seems like there was some intention to doing it that way

If primaries are a "purer" form of democracy (one man one vote unless you're a Rethug in some states), then the GE requires that a candidate at least have support in a majority of states, so that you don't get a candidate who's only strong regionally. I see the positive and negative aspects of the electoral college -- I don't know whether it should be abolished or not, but I was really hoping there would be widespread discussion of this in 2000. As I recall, Hillary Clinton was one of the most vocal proponents of getting rid of it, but obviously the Rethugs running the show haven't seen any reason to change a game that's working in their favor.

[joshcryer]

17. It's society of the elite at its finest.

Runoff direct democracy for the win.

[joshcryer]

12. Fortunately Obama has admitted that he will be seating FL delegates, just as any rational person...

...would. But he doesn't recognize that if there was a contest, he wouldn't seat those delegates, thus validating their place in the process as essentially spoiler votes for him, meaning they do hold massive political power in an unlikely scenario.

[LSparkle]

4. Seriously ... just like the general election is about the electoral COLLEGE

which should probably be done away with until we do, that's the way our system works.

[robbedvoter]

13. so, where do those delegates/ED votes come from? Baby jesus?

[robbedvoter]

19. His campaign slogan: screw the voters"

How is one running by dissing voters?

[cali]

14. Putting something in quotes that is not a quote is

simple dishonesty.

Not that anyone should be surprised by that from you, murkymurk.

:rofl:

[Tom Strong]

15. O-man's still got a lotta rope-learning to do. n/t

[zanne]

20. WTH did you mean by that? What's "rope learning"? nt

[cali]

21. rope learning? You better explain what the fuck that means

[GoldieAZ49]

18. Take the super delegates that Teddy just racked up for you

away from the Clintons...well Bill can keep his vote

Kennedy has made it clear that the Democratic Party and the voters of America are no longer going to tolerate and ignore the Clintons sordid personal politics.

40% of the delegates are Super Delegates...Teddy's endorsement signals it is ok to switch to Obama

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18277678

[Pathwalker]

22. Will Michigan and Florida's SUPER Delegates be seated?

You know - those State officials who actually broke the "Party Rules?"