Can you blame the Hillary camp for being so desperate?

[Renew Deal]

They haven't won a single contested primary.

Obama is undefeated in contested primaries (3-0-1)
Won:
IA
SC
NV on delegates

Tied
NH on Delegates

[Tarc]

1. A bit fast and loose with the numbers there

If we're going to start tallying superdelegates, unpledged delegates and assorted oddments, then Clinton is up 230-152.

This ca be spun in any way you like.

[Renew Deal]

4. Not at all

Those super-delegates will go with the winner, and they can change their vote. One changed from Edwards to Obama today.

[Tarc]

9. More pointless dodging?

We're talking about how it stands now, not gazing into the crystal ball to guess what will be. You claim that the Clinton camp is "desperate" because they are currently trailing Obama 0-3-1, ignoring the current overall delegate count. And at present, Obama is way behind.

[Renew Deal]

15. Not at all

The super-delegate counts are meaningless. Just ask Dean.

[LeftCoast]

2. I see you've been reading George Lakoff

Nice framing!

[0007]

3. I indeed thought she had more class!

[Skip Intro]

5. Even the magic word desperate wont stop the media frenzy now building around the snub.

America does not like arrogant jerks, and Obama has been exposed finally for all to see...


I sense some desperation, but not on the part of Hillary or her supporters...

[papau]

8. Boston media refuses to report anything about it.

[Skip Intro]

11. Looks like they changed their minds: Boston Globe report here:

http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligence/2008/01/was_it_a_snub.html




Senator Hillary Clinton greets Senator Edward Kennedy as fellow presidential hopeful Senator Barack Obama turns away before President Bush\'s State of the Union address. (AP Photo/J. Scott Applewhite)

It\'s the one night in Washington when decorum truly reigns: The president delivers the State of the Union speech, and politicians of both parties put on their best behavior and come together to pay tribute to the living, breathing democracy that makes America what it is. Did Barack Obama honor the tradition?

Obama finds himself questioned today about whether he snubbed rival Hillary Clinton last night in the House chamber before President Bush gave his speech. As Clinton greeted Senator Edward Kennedy -- who endorsed Obama yesterday with great fanfare -- Obama seemed to turn his back and walk away. (The Chicago Tribune has an excellent account of the moment here.)

[Benhurst]

6. This is an aside, since I'm not sure what the result of my suggestion would be in the current

primaries. But I think the super delegates should be eliminated and all delegates awarded strictly on the basis of the popular vote. The way in which our delegates are selected sets up for the same crap we are getting from the Electoral Collage. The delegates should be apportioned according the popular vote.

As for the general election, I think one should have to win a majority. If no such person emerges, the top two vote getters should have to face off in a runoff.

[papau]

7. LOL - undefeated - yep - whatever you say.

[onehandle]

10. All Unpledged has taken the lead!

Go All Unpledged!

[Bitwit1234]

12. Counting Michigan where she didn't campaign

and the other candidate had conyers going night and day campaigning for him she has won THREE OUT OF FIVE STATES.....Seems like that's pretty good and boy just wait til Super Tuesday, and we'll see who is desperate...Kick butt Hillary you're doing a darn good job.

[leftynyc]

14. I think 2/5 is going to be a reality check

for many people.

[joshcryer]

13. Wait until Fat Tuesday.

Obama might pick up more delegates if Hillary doesn't contest the "all or nothing states" and realize they're more important than the states with proportionately shared delegates. Obama may actually win more of those, which will coincide with his "win delegates" approach.