Obama can Unite Us

[dempartisan23]

i think we all need to see that obama is a uniter. he can unify the party and we will all be winners in the end. do we want an old creepface like mccain as the next president? lets all ask ourselves this. will mr obama give us not only the best chance for the white house but wont he also help elect congresssional democrats. the answer is YES!!

[sunonmars]

1. The answer is NO

Uniter, he's uniting them so far, not.

[DJ13]

3. I didnt realize that Yoda was a Democrat

:bounce:

[dempartisan23]

6. i disagree

did you listen to obamas great victory speech? he wants to include everyone. i thnk we should look inward and see what is in our hearts.

[sunonmars]

16. claptrap

I don't give a shit about change, i just want to be able to be sure, the economy is still going to be there in a years time, fuck this happyclapping shit.

Talk to me about, economics, healthcare and proper issues, just back away from the fairydust.

[jefferson_dem]

37. You're nothing but a HOPE MONGER!

How dare you believe in something better than what the ClintonInc slice and dice machine has to offer!

:sarcasm:

Welcome to DU, by the way. :hi:

[Andy823]

40. Talk is cheap

Acations speak louder than words, and so far his actions are not that of a "uniter" but a divider! What will the dem party be like after he and Hillary get done with it?

[maddiejoan]

41. Everyone?

I sure didn't hear LGBT in there.

[Cant trust em]

45. He said it today

In his speech after the Ted Kennedy endorsement he did his usual "This isn't about black and white" bit and added gay/straight to the equation.

[maddiejoan]

48. oh okay

the post I responded to said his "Victory Speech" and I assumed it was meant his SC speech

[Cant trust em]

58. I'm just happy he said it n/t

[maddiejoan]

59. Guess he felt it might get booed

in South Carolina.

[Cant trust em]

60. sad, but probably true

I wish this didn't have to be a wedge issue.

[Critters2]

53. No, but you did hear Republican, didn't you?

This stuff scares me.

[Critters2]

51. Great political strategy.

If we all meditate just right, we can achieve world peace. :eyes:

[SammyWinstonJack]

62. LOL!

:spray:

[557188]

2. Haha

This reminds me of the Kerry is the "most electable" thing in 04 that was used against Dean.

WRONG

[BlackVelvet04]

4. How is he going to accomplish uniting us? n/t

[Cronus Protagonist]

5. Bet he can't unite me

I'm singularly unimpressed with this candidate.

[dempartisan23]

11. why?

open your heart to his message of hope and unity. obama will give us many congressional victories.

[Cronus Protagonist]

14. Yeah, sure, Billy Graham had the same message

But at least he was talking about a "real" Messiah. Besides, hope is frosting on shit - can't have hope without the despair that it resides upon, and I don't have any despair and won't be wanting any in the foreseeable future, tnx.

Anyway, when did this election come down to faith? I thought it was about the issues and the candidates experience.

[BlackVelvet04]

25. We're not looking for a savior....

we're voting for a president.

Open my heart to his message of hope and unity....:puke:

[Bake]

28. Try this: Hope in one hand, and piss in the other

See which one fills up first.

I don't need hope. I need somebody who can tackle problems like the economy, the war, fixing everything that B*sh fucked up.

Bake

[Critters2]

43. Open my heart?!!!

No thanks. I have a religion.

[NMDemDist2]

52. you are so sweet, but I don't pick my country's leader with my heart

I choose them with my Head.

I have a brain, I use it.

I keep my heart for things like kittens and puppies, where it belongs

[jannyk]

7. Wasn't Bush gonna be the 'Great Uniter'? Spare me.....nt

[SammyWinstonJack]

8. ...

:eyes:

[bunnies]

9. The Obama haters here are many...

and I think you're about to meet them all. :scared: Welcome to DU.

[BlackVelvet04]

10. I'd really like to know what the plan is to unite us. n/t

[dempartisan23]

13. i dont hate hillary clinton

i am deeply saddened that we seem so divided. obama is a man of hope and peace.

[bunnies]

20. Obama haters

= those that hate Obama. :P

[butterfly77]

33. How do you know that...

[NMDemDist2]

54. I don't hate Obama

I just think this whole 'message of change/hope' is fluff and bullshit.

He has no executive experience, no foreign policy experience and extremely limited legislative experience.

He gives a good speech but the ReThugs on Capitol Hill will shove his 'hope' up you know where.

[in_cog_ni_to]

12. Really? How is that? Is he going to Investigate the thugs in the WH?

NO, he is not. How will he unite us?

[cd3dem]

15. Obama is feeding the negative racial tension in the democratic party

if Obama had spoken up when Clinton called his Iraq war stand a fairy tale and said it was not a racist comment but a political one, then we would have never gotten into this racial crap! Obama figured he would gain the black vote by making Clinton look as though he made a racial slam on Obama... he never said anything... Michelle made speeches about how they had over come this sort of thing feeding the media and its racial bullshit! Obama is no more of a uniter than Bush!!!!

[dempartisan23]

thats a concern

i am afraid alot of african american voters may sit it out if hillary clinton in the nominee. can we afford that to happen?

[cd3dem]

26. when you don't speak up, you are making a statement

he knows exactly what he is doing... he thinks he will get the nomination this way... but just as some blacks may not vote for Hillary... some whites will not like this game and not only will he lose their vote but the dems lose

[DURHAM D]

55. Correct -

The amount of anger at Obama's destruction of the Dem party for his personal cynical gain and his obvious right leaning positions that are unexamined by his supporters and the press is gigantic among older(the truly liberal) Dems.

This is not known because they generally don't participate in this type of forum.

[cd3dem]

70. he also feeds the Hillary is unlikable crap! Hillary is likable "enough"

now that is a uniter!

[1corona4u]

17. Keep drinking the silly swill...

Obama has lots more....

[robbedvoter]

18. yeah, just look at the state of this board since EU became OU!

[Barack_America]

19. I think you're right.

:hi:

[dempartisan23]

23. thanks

lets hope we all can form a united front

[BlackVelvet04]

21. So, you can't tell me how this unity is going to be accomplished? n/t

[dempartisan23]

24. thats easy

it can be accomplished with open minds and open hearts

[BlackVelvet04]

27. No offense

but that's just naive rhetoric. Is that all ya got?

[Bake]

29. Don't forget to sing "Kum-Bay-Yah"

That'll open some hearts.

Bake

[jefferson_dem]

38. Get on board and we'll make it happen.

Don't be such a Debbie Downer.

[Critters2]

39. Yeah, asking questions is such a downer.

And don't even mention "specifics"!!

[jefferson_dem]

46. It's obvious the poster is not really wanting answers ...

but is looking to make a petty point.

Pay attention to the man's words - his message. It's all there.

[OzarkDem]

22. He's a very divisive candidate

I've never seen a Dem presidential candidate so divisive; its one of the reasons I would never support him.

[butterfly77]

30. Now this is something I have been wanting an answer to..

everytime I hear someone say it I would like to know how...

[Beaverhausen]

31. Yes, it's working so well here, right?

:eyes:

[OHdem10]

32. Obama's supporters make the word unity look like a big joke.

[Nimrod2005]

34. Bingo! we all win with Obama...nt

[BlackVelvet04]

35. I respect everyone's right to vote

for the candidate of their choice, but I would hope that they make that choice based on something other than a promise to "unite us".

No person can unite us. There are very deeply felt beliefs in this country that divide us. Obama will not and cannot, any more than any of the other candidates can, make those issues go away.

Is Obama going to convince the radical religious right to cease and desist with their opposition to abortion? Gay marriage? Stem cell research? Is he going to convince the left to give up it's desire for legal abortion, gay marriage and government supported stem cell research? NO HE IS NOT

If you vote for Obama at least vote for him for something he might possibly be able to do...otherwise you're deluding yourself and doing the country a grave disservice.

[Cant trust em]

57. You unite people by not drawing a line in the sand

You're never going to unite the people on the far left or the far right. That's not what his candidacy is about. It's about bringing people who are independent and in the middle to our side. He realizes that by labeling and demonizing people you wind up creating two halves when what really exists are many different aspects to our political scene. Most people in America aren't as opinionated as your average DUer. With the right negotiation skills and the proper packaging of a message you can achieve a lot. I find that when I talk with people in bars or at parties or wherever I can usually get them to agree with me by not taking such a confrontational attitude to them. That is Barack Obama's style and I think that it is what America needs right now.

[calico1]

36. Yes, he's a uniter all right...

Look at how much love there is on DU these days! And the kindest, gentlest, most mature and respectful of all DU'ers are Obama supporters!

:sarcasm:

[kurth]

49. You’ve got to open your mind

and pretend the sermon you're hearing is brand new and the preacher is speaking to you and not reading off the teleprompter.

[Yanez Houston Jordan]

42. By "us" are you referring to the young well educated Democrats with no gay friends?

[MagickMuffin]

44. Obama's some uniter, he can't even get his legislation passed by the GOP

:eyes:

[Beacool]

47. Nope, he's definitely not "uniting" me, quite the contrary.

I choose who to vote for president based on their qualifications and experience to do the job. I don't like people who are too smooth, who talk in generalities and make empty promises. Obama is a great speaker, but IMO he's not ready to be president and I don't give a flying fig if the Lord himself comes down and endorses him!!!!!!

[noiretextatique]

50. obama needs more experience and less rhetoric

to attract older voters.

[Bluebear]

56. Unless you are gay, lesbian, bisexual or trangendered

Then you can pray away your gay the Donnie McClurkin way.

[bigwillq]

68. Bingo! (nt)

[MethuenProgressive]

61. You want to be united with republicans? I sure the Hell do not.

I want the GOP destroyed.

[Cant trust em]

63. That's never going to happen

This isn't the Lord of the Rings where all of the evil is encapsulated and can someday be defeated. We're a huge country that represents a lot of ideas. The idea that somehow we can erradicate red from the political map is crazy. The best we can do is turn parts of it purple. If we can change a few minds/votes to dems then that's how we'll win.

[Cant trust em]

64. I'm amazed at the amount of cynicism on DU n/t

[Bluebear]

65. I know, some of us just don't have The BAM.

:silly:

[DiamondJay]

66. maybe he can unite, but the media will devide

I think obama does have some uniting ability, but the media will divide the country by race. lets face it, the race card came into the race after hillary won new hampshire, and the MEDIA said it was because of racism. The way the media talks about who blacks and hispanics supports in this race will be done for Obama's general campaign and policies.

[swoop]

67. LOL! That might mean...

...you stop calling the other side 'creepfaces'!

edit to add: Go 'Bama!

[Clintonite]

69. Don't you see that he CANNOT unite us?!?! Have you read these boards lately?

The Obama camps and us Clinton backers ae at each others throats!!! This is just the way politics has been for 1000 years! People believ passionatly about how to make our surroundings better! No matter who the nominee is, half the country will be against them right out of the gate!

[swoop]

71. He COULD--if people would listen to him.

He's certainly doing a better job of it than the Clinton's ever did.

[Bluebear]

74. Yes, our ears are just closed, we must receive The BAM. There is no other way.

:silly:

[demo dutch]

72. Right, just as Kennedy's endorsement will turn off many Independents, and no

Dem can win without the independents

[lynch03]

73. Pretty much the main reason to vote for obama

He will appeal to both sides. Hillary won't. They'll both make ok presidents, but there's no way this country is going to vote in hillary in the general election. The republican base will be galvanized, and even some democrats won't vote for her