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sunonmars (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 04:38 PM Original message |
This Rezko thing is getting worse by the minute - arab visa's and iraqi billionaire |
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jlake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 04:39 PM Response to Original message |
1. This is starting to sound very, very serious. |
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sunonmars (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 04:40 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. They are digging very hard |
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avrdream (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-29-08 03:57 AM Response to Reply #3 |
120. I don't think the MSM is going to jump on it unless he becomes the Dem nominee. |
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VotesForWomen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-29-08 04:34 AM Response to Reply #120 |
122. quite possibly. they're giving him a pass now, but wait till he becomes the nominee. nt |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 05:12 PM Response to Reply #1 |
50. You sound ever so concerned. Would you be nearly so concerned |
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MNDemNY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 06:07 PM Response to Reply #50 |
88. I support neither, but yes, this concerns me. |
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neutron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-29-08 12:35 AM Response to Reply #88 |
113. As I've mentioned, I got spooked by the way |
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jbnow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-29-08 06:13 AM Response to Reply #1 |
126. I am very worried about the investigation going on |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 04:39 PM Response to Original message |
2. And Obama isn't implicated in any of it. |
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Medusa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 04:40 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. and that's what really pisses off the Clintonistas |
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jlake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 04:44 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. You don't think the fact that someone being investigated for funding terrorists |
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sunonmars (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 04:45 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. If that even vaguely heads in that direction GAME OVER |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 04:46 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. Don't worry. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 04:46 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. I'll think it's serious once Obama is remotely implicated in any wrongdoing whatseover. |
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MNDemNY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 04:48 PM Response to Reply #9 |
14. Hypothetically, If Obama was involved in the visa intervention, would that be serious? |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 04:59 PM Response to Reply #14 |
28. Like all scandals, it would depend on the extent of involvement and his knowledge as to |
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MNDemNY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 05:02 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. If, say, Obama intervened in the visa, |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 05:06 PM Response to Reply #31 |
35. ... |
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beachmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 04:54 PM Response to Reply #6 |
25. Well, gee, Obama didn't pardon anyone. I believe a named figure |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 05:05 PM Response to Reply #25 |
34. Fact free - just like the BCCI mention - he got a loan, sold commodities, sold oil - but crime was |
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Metric System (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 07:24 PM Response to Reply #6 |
100. Exactly! It's all about optics. Even if it turns out Obama did nothing wrong... |
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jbnow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-29-08 05:54 AM Response to Reply #6 |
124. Are you pretending here? |
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golddigger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 04:48 PM Response to Reply #2 |
12. Doesn't matter now that Obama is the... |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 05:01 PM Response to Reply #12 |
30. For what, exactly? He hasn't been implicated in any illegal or unethical acts. |
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golddigger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 05:08 PM Response to Reply #30 |
38. Will answer me this. If the M$M could destroy Dean over a scream |
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sunonmars (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 05:09 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. total devestation comes to mind |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 05:10 PM Response to Reply #38 |
42. Over what? His non-involvement in a scandal? |
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golddigger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 05:15 PM Response to Reply #42 |
53. I'm not saying he was involved... |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 05:15 PM Response to Reply #53 |
54. He wasn't. There's nothing to attack him on. |
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CoffeeCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 05:09 PM Response to Reply #30 |
41. Yes, and people need to remember... |
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sunonmars (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 05:11 PM Response to Reply #41 |
44. it sometimes takes years to get the right stuff |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 05:12 PM Original message |
And it's been years, and they're still not even considering targeting Obama. |
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INdemo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 05:58 PM Response to Reply #2 |
86. The timing of this Rezko case seems to have Republican dirty |
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MNDemNY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 04:41 PM Response to Original message |
5. Tick ,tick,tick ,tick . ... |
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Proud2BAmurkin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 04:45 PM Response to Original message |
8. holy crap. |
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sunonmars (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 04:47 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. yes that what was my openmouthed reaction too |
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gmudem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 04:48 PM Response to Original message |
13. Doesn't seem like Obama's actually connected to any of this |
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Proud2BAmurkin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 04:49 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. Rezko "asked certain government officials to intervene" on getting his criminal pal a visa |
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Kittycat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 04:53 PM Response to Reply #15 |
22. Fitz has cleared Obama, and said he isn't connected |
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MNDemNY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 05:04 PM Response to Reply #22 |
32. No, he hasn't "cleared" Obama. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 05:07 PM Response to Reply #32 |
37. He's neither cleared nor targeted you. Clearly you're guilty. |
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MNDemNY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 05:12 PM Response to Reply #37 |
48. I didn't say anything of the sort. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 05:14 PM Response to Reply #48 |
51. Why would you think Obama was involved? It's pretty clearly going to be one of Blago's guys. |
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MNDemNY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 05:18 PM Response to Reply #51 |
57. I'm just sayin' that if |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 05:20 PM Response to Reply #57 |
59. And if my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle. |
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MNDemNY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 05:43 PM Response to Reply #59 |
76. The former being MUCH more likely. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 07:21 PM Response to Reply #76 |
99. Keep hoping. |
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thereismore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 05:04 PM Response to Reply #22 |
33. hehe, the guy you responded to is on my "ignore" list. |
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MNDemNY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 06:14 PM Response to Reply #33 |
94. Ignore lists are for people who can't handle the truth. |
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thereismore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 09:26 PM Response to Reply #94 |
108. Um, no. nt |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 05:00 PM Response to Reply #15 |
29. It's Chicago. Could be anyone. |
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MNDemNY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 04:49 PM Response to Reply #13 |
17. Why? |
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gmudem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 04:55 PM Response to Reply #17 |
26. ...Because there's no evidence of it? |
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jaxx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 04:58 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. That will spoil all their fun. |
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harun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 07:36 PM Response to Reply #13 |
105. He's not, it has already been gone through |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 04:49 PM Response to Original message |
16. Oh gosh, like Clinton and their Indian associates |
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thereismore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 04:50 PM Response to Original message |
18. stuff like this never hurt bush*. Let's see what the M$M is going to do. nt |
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sunonmars (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 04:51 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. Bush didnt run on a "i'm gonna clean politics up" campaign |
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JanusAscending (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-29-08 01:05 AM Response to Reply #19 |
115. Short memory? |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 04:51 PM Response to Original message |
20. Like the Phantom said to Christine: |
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indimuse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 09:27 PM Response to Reply #20 |
109. He has transferred money around the world including $400,000 to Beirut in 2004. |
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sam sarrha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 04:52 PM Response to Original message |
21. Rezko's wife made him a really sweet deal on that house too, $300,000 discount >Links>> |
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Proud2BAmurkin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 04:53 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. Wow that will go over with the people being foreclosed on. |
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Tulkas (592 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 04:54 PM Response to Original message |
24. Try this link for info |
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ClericJohnPreston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 05:41 PM Response to Reply #24 |
72. Ummm, actually no Tulkas |
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thereismore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 05:06 PM Response to Original message |
36. All you need now is a picture of Obama with Auchi on a prayer rug. |
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VotesForWomen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-29-08 04:33 AM Response to Reply #36 |
121. yep; Obama (D-Manchuria). that's what the repukes will say. nt |
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Flarney (512 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 05:09 PM Response to Original message |
39. To what extent, do you think, that Obama will be at the mercy of the media? |
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BeyondGeography (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 05:10 PM Response to Original message |
43. The Clinton Foundation received $10 million from the Saudi royal family |
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ClericJohnPreston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 05:43 PM Response to Reply #43 |
74. Thats some advantage, huh? |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 05:47 PM Response to Reply #74 |
82. Edwards=the clean candidate. Another reason he is the most electable |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 07:26 PM Response to Reply #82 |
103. Clean? You might want to look into William Lerach. |
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ClericJohnPreston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 09:19 PM Response to Reply #103 |
106. Surprise...not! |
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BeyondGeography (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 05:48 PM Response to Reply #74 |
84. Edwards...he's the hedge fund employee, isn't he? |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 07:25 PM Response to Reply #74 |
101. Actually, he had to return contributions from a convicted attorney, and refused to return $81k |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 05:11 PM Response to Original message |
45. Just as such things never seemed to affect the public's perception of Hillary |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 05:11 PM Response to Original message |
46. Have you ever looked at the donors for the Clinton Library? |
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ErnestoG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 05:11 PM Response to Original message |
47. Keep trying the smears - none of it sticking to Obama |
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ClericJohnPreston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 05:44 PM Response to Reply #47 |
77. The only thing ludicrous |
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ErnestoG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 07:25 PM Response to Reply #77 |
102. Since its basically a non issue, yeah...it's ludicrous. |
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ClericJohnPreston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 09:23 PM Response to Reply #102 |
107. To a non-lawyer |
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pipoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 05:12 PM Response to Original message |
49. I have been waiting for the Illinois politics shoe to drop.... |
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sunonmars (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 05:14 PM Response to Original message |
52. I find it funny that every time Rezko comes up, they attack Clinton |
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MNDemNY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 05:17 PM Response to Reply #52 |
55. If Obama is connected in any wat to the intervention |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 05:19 PM Response to Reply #55 |
58. He most likely isn't. Rezko had more connections to Blagojevich than to Obama. |
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MNDemNY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 05:20 PM Response to Reply #58 |
60. A Senator-elect would have more sway with State Dep. than a Gov. |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 05:22 PM Response to Reply #60 |
61. Please don't forget that Rezko donated to MANY politicians... |
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MNDemNY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 05:22 PM Response to Reply #61 |
62. I don't care. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 05:24 PM Response to Reply #62 |
64. Do you care that Obama was no longer an Illinois government official in 2005? |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 05:28 PM Response to Reply #64 |
66. Lol. Just what I was about to post. n/t |
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MNDemNY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 05:42 PM Response to Reply #66 |
73. See how much LOL ing you do when he crashes and burns. |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 06:15 PM Response to Reply #73 |
95. It's not going to happen. But you keep on hoping. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 07:33 PM Response to Reply #73 |
104. Oh, over what? His complete non-involvement with a scandal? Americans only elect the corrupt? |
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MNDemNY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 05:41 PM Response to Reply #64 |
71. Yes, he was a US Senator. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 07:18 PM Response to Reply #71 |
97. The article said he called in an Illinois government official. That would disqualify Obama. |
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Lucinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-29-08 04:53 AM Response to Reply #97 |
123. Not necessarily. |
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ClericJohnPreston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 05:46 PM Response to Reply #61 |
80. Yeah |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 05:23 PM Response to Reply #60 |
63. Hey wait, I misread the date. This took place in '05, not '03. That means |
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MNDemNY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 05:46 PM Response to Reply #63 |
81. He was a "government official", He was an Illini, |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 07:21 PM Response to Reply #81 |
98. The article says "Illinois government official," not "Illinoisan government official." But nice try. |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 05:18 PM Response to Reply #52 |
56. I'm sorry, but there's nothing there. |
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golddigger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 05:32 PM Response to Reply #56 |
68. I understand what you are saying... |
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golddigger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 06:02 PM Response to Reply #56 |
87. Obama supporters need to contact the Obama campaign... |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 05:25 PM Response to Original message |
65. This part doesn't look good: |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 05:28 PM Response to Reply #65 |
67. Um that has been known for months... |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 05:39 PM Response to Reply #67 |
70. What I "knew" was that Rezko's wife sold Obama a bit of land. |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 05:33 PM Response to Original message |
69. This is why we need publicly funded campaigns |
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cd3dem (927 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 05:43 PM Response to Original message |
75. the press is waiting for Obama to be the nominee before they do anything |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 05:48 PM Response to Reply #75 |
83. Me too. Only ABC is covering this |
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realFedUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 06:10 PM Response to Reply #83 |
91. More of the story from the Sun Times here... |
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cd3dem (927 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 06:13 PM Response to Reply #91 |
93. I heard Obama made $300,000 plus on the house he bought |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 05:45 PM Response to Original message |
78. Only ABC is honestly reporting this story. The rest of the media is continuing to shill for Obama |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 05:46 PM Response to Original message |
79. I think you're aiming for the 87 Degrees of Seperation theory |
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ClericJohnPreston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 05:56 PM Response to Reply #79 |
85. I don't agree. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 06:08 PM Response to Original message |
89. Check this out: |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 06:09 PM Response to Original message |
90. I think you'll all find a more complete story here (LINK) |
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ClericJohnPreston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-29-08 12:40 AM Response to Reply #90 |
114. LINKS,LINKS,LINKS |
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realFedUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 06:12 PM Response to Original message |
92. “I’ve never done any favors for him.” |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 06:16 PM Response to Reply #92 |
96. You need to read the fact-check on that story. |
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Pachamama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 10:55 PM Response to Original message |
110. Yeah, and aint' it convenient that just days earlier, when no one had ever heard of Rezko, Hillary |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-28-08 11:46 PM Response to Reply #110 |
111. Isn't Patrick Fitzgerald investigating this? |
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mcg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-29-08 12:25 AM Response to Reply #110 |
112. "Internship also links Obama, Rezko" Dec 24, 2006 |
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Helga Scow Stern (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-29-08 02:31 AM Response to Original message |
116. This is a smear, just like any other. We should not even be entertaining it |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-29-08 02:32 AM Response to Reply #116 |
117. Which facts are you disputing? Just calling it a "smear" is not very informative |
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Cooley Hurd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-29-08 03:47 AM Response to Original message |
118. We mustn't feed... |
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DesEtoiles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-29-08 03:55 AM Response to Original message |
119. Tony Rezko and a terrorist gave Obama an expensive haircut! Pass it on... |
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ursi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-29-08 06:02 AM Response to Reply #119 |
125. who gives Hillary her botox? never saw a forehead that looks so frozen! |
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