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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 12:47 PM
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That Rascal Mark Twain Gets Smarter Each Primary Season: A Southern Strategery for the DNC
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“Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself.” - Mark Twain.

I imagine that - given the opportunity to extend and revise his remarks - Twain might add a special classification for Members of Congress running for President.

He might add an even more specialized category for such candidates who venture South of the Mason-Dixon Line with a bevy of Beltwayers, a knot of New Yorkers, and a troubadour troupe of tricky-penned scriveners who don't have "the ear" for the idiomatic handshakes of an audience they've never really respected.

Don't get me wrong. I lived "up North" for 8 years. I got to know quite a few New Yawkers and New Englanders and Bawstonians that I think are smart, wickedly funny, progressive, and all-around decent people. With enough time, members of different regional subcultures can learn to find the commonalities in the byways and backpaths of their respective cultural imprints.

But time is not a luxury that the compressed timeframe of this primary season affords any candidate.

http://etext.virginia.edu/railton/onstage/whittier.html">At the Whittier Dinner Speech in Boston, a young Mark Twain was made to feel mortified for daring to "sass" some famous literary luminaries of his day. The rebuke he received left a mark, judging by his account of it years later.

He ventured into a foreign culture, and gave a speech that would have had people in an audience more familiar to him howling with laughter. But the missed nods and winks in the speech - cultural handshakes unknown to the audience - left it falling flat.

Chances are, a good-hearted ribbing of Twain from Whittier, given somewhere in the South of the day, may well have fallen equally flat.

The point is: at least one of the candidates is competing in states in which there is an expectation that - when you get walloped on the field - you graciously concede defeat to the opposing side. Many of these communities are depicted aptly in Friday Night Lights: places where the biggest social event each week is the Friday night football game, and where good sportsmanship still means something.

Self-deprecating humor can help, as long as a kernel of truth lies at the heart of it. "I really stunk up the field tonight, folks, but as ya'll know, you gotta pick yourself up, dust yourself off, watch the game tape over the weekend, and suit up to take the field again next week. And that's exactly what I plan to do heading into Tsunami Tuesday."

In 30 seconds or less, a rapport is established, and the audience is more apt to extend you a hand to help you stand up from the field.

(Oh, yeah, after a hard tackle, you help the other guy up in these places.)

"When I was a boy of 14, my father was so ignorant I could hardly stand to have the old man around. But when I got to be 21, I was astonished at how much the old man had learned in seven years." -- Mark Twain

In other words, he eventually realized that the advice he'd been receiving all along was sound. Some candidates just aren't open to good advice.

My prediction for this week? A few gaffes (mostly from one campaign in particular) to give the Whittier Speech a run for its money.

- Dave
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ursi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 12:51 PM
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1. Love Mark Twain! Just went to see the museum pieces belonging to him
up at Virginia City, Nevada.
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 01:10 PM
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6. Cool!!!
Did they have the preserved remains of the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Celebrated_Jumping_Frog_of_Calaveras_County">Calaveras Jumping Frog?

; )

- Dave
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 12:55 PM
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2. Wonderful post - thank you! Recommend nt
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 01:20 PM
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7. Glad You Enjoyed It...
... and - with any luck - a few people took it to heart, without immediately writing off Southerners/Appalachians/Border Staters as irredeemably lost to any Democratic candidate.

With the right candidate, some purplish states will ripen into blue by November.

- Dave
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Glorfindel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 12:57 PM
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3. Forget the south - not a snowball's chance in hell here for the Democrats
and that's the truth. We need to concentrate on carrying all the states Al Gore carried plus either Ohio or West Virginia and the Democrats win. That's all that matters. The south is a lost cause.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 01:00 PM
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4. No, how about we attempt to bring in "the nation" to the Democratic fold? - Including "the south?"
;) :thumbsup:
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 01:27 PM
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11. Amen! n/t
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 01:49 PM
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13. We Aren't Getting Anywhere in the South With Clinton or Obama
Can you really imagine any southern state voting for Clinton or Obama?

The Ohio strategy would end badly for us. Too many of the election thieves are still there, even though Blackwell is out.

Pick Richardson for veep and go for the SouthWEST!

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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 02:03 PM
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14. Both Edwards and Obama ...
... play well in the Upper South/Appalachian/Border States, including SE Ohio. They can ripen those purplish states to blue by November.

- Dave
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Glorfindel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 04:59 PM
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18. I've been trying all my life, first in Georgia & now in Mississippi
It will take another generation - if then - for things to change. In the meantime, we NEED to win elections.
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 01:05 PM
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5. May I Ask Where You Live/Consider Home? n/t
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Glorfindel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 05:03 PM
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19. The mountains of north Georgia are home
I currently reside in southern Mississippi, for employment reasons.
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 05:20 PM
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20. Pretty Area!
Thanks for your service ribbon and your flag!

:patriot:

- Dave
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TygrBright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 01:20 PM
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8. A leavening of humility helps almost everywhere, in my experience.
Having moved far from my native purview several times, and found myself in 'furrin'' cultural territory faced with the necessity of networking and developing relationships to sustain my business, I've learned HUMILITY helps.

Don't assume you know the ropes after a few months, a year, two years...
Don't hesitate to ask for guidance ('Well, where I grew up it would be good to X, what do folks here appreciate?')
Don't hesitate to apologize ('I'm sorry, that must have seemed pretty odd. I'm still learning. Your help is appreciated.')
Don't join in when the native folks are criticizing their own cultural peculiarities. (It's OK for THEM to complain about 'carpe manana' being the state motto here, but outsiders joining in are not appreciated. A rueful shrug conveys sympathetic agreement without snottiness.)

There's always common ground if you look hard enough.

philosophically,
Bright
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 01:26 PM
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10. Now We're into Recipes!
I hear you loud and clear, but wanted to tease you about the leavening: is that a smidge, a pinch, a dash, a sousant, or a sprinkle?

; )

- Dave
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 01:22 PM
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9. they really should make a movie about Mark Twain
they haven't, have they?
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 01:29 PM
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12. A Definitive One Does Not Come to Mind...
... and they could even model it on the vignette style that Finding Neverland used to focus on a key point in the writing life of Peter Pan's creator.

I'd want Ken Burns consulting.

; )

- Dave
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ReadTomPaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 12:09 AM
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24. The IMDB lists fifty films with the character of "Mark Twain" involved..
They have a new 'character page' feature which works like an actor's bio except it follows the fictional characters course through the various films, TV series etc that were written for them.

I have to say, while I haven't watched all of these films, none really stand out as exceptional depictions of the man.

Here' the link: http://www.imdb.com/character/ch0033269/
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 12:28 AM
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25. I Hadn't Seen That...
... new feature! Thanks for the heads-up; I'll definitely use that!

: )

There really *does* need to be a movie. I'm surprised Hal Holbrook didn't snag it.

- Dave
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 02:05 PM
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15. Kick - why aren't you people recommending this - it's wonderful! nt
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 10:57 PM
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21. Thanks!
Much appreciated, and maybe a few will take it to heart.

- Dave
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ReadTomPaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 02:39 PM
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16. Good sportsmanship? Dislike of cheating? I guess you're not much of a racing fan...
I enjoyed the tone (or should I say Twain?) of your post, but I can't agree with several of your observations. Motorsports in its myriad forms are immensely popular in the regions you are discussing, and for virtually its entire history it has been a hotbed of cheating, bad manners, stubborn disputes & rude concessions. For the most part, both the fans and the racers prefer it that way. It's a cultural thing.

There's an old saying that arose from the dirt tracks where early moonshine runners turned into racers and it remains popular today : "There are only two kinds of racers, the cheaters and the losers". Political elections are referred to as races for a reason, and people tend to think of them that way, not like a football game. Racing rules, along with the traditional disregard for them whenever favorable, tend to apply.
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 02:52 PM
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17. NASCAR: I'm not speedin', officer, I'm qualifyin'.
:toast:

- Dave
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ReadTomPaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 11:16 PM
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22. Here's an interesting bit of history from the Trans Am series that illustrates this...
This is further outlined in Mark's book "Unfair Advantage"..

During their enormous success in Trans-Am, Roger and Mark would begin to experiment with their Camaros, searching for that all-elusive Unfair Advantage. They discovered that dipping a car's frame in an acid bath would eat away small amounts of metal from the frame, which, in turn made the car incrementally lighter, and allowed it to be driven faster around the track. The 1967 Z-28 won its last race by lapping the entire field of cars, raising eyebrows throughout the paddock. During a post-race inspection, race stewards discovered that the car was 250 pounds lighter than the 2800 pound minimum weight requirement. Donohue was to have his race victory taken away for cheating. But, owing to his keen business sense, Roger Penske stepped in. Penske threatened that any disqualification could potentially lead to Chevrolet pulling all support for the Trans-Am series. After considering the options, the race stewards allowed Donohue's victory to stand, but the rules for the 1968 season incorporated a change where all cars will be weighed during the pre-race technical inspection.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Donohue
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 11:21 PM
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23. Very Cool!
My best friend in elementary school was in a http://beckleyspeedway.wvsitedesign.com/">racing family (not NASCAR racing, but they were big fans).

They raced a mock-up of The General Lee.

:eyes:

- Dave
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