If Edwards were running against Guiliani, McCain, Romney, or Huckabee...

[kentuck]

He would beat each and everyone of them handily. What does that tell us? It tells us that Edwards is not a "bad" candidate but rather, he is running against two very strong candidates in Hillary and Obama. Neither Edwards nor his supporters have anything to hang their heads about. He is an excellent candidate.

[Fierce]

1. He's an excellent candidate that the party is rejecting.

That's what's frustrating.

[TwilightGardener]

2. He's a strong candidate, but he's up against stars. That's a very tough spot.

[SammyWinstonJack]

9. "stars" How sad is that?

:eyes:

[polichick]

3. He has a terrific message...

But it does seem as if it's Obama's time.

[Freida5]

4. Keith O analysis of Edward's speech is focused Edwards attacks on Clinton

what bias

[Olney Blue]

5. I think any of our candidates will beat the GOP.

[stravu9]

6. Th eDemocratic Party is Throwing this Election Away on some Grand Social Experiment!

They would rather go down in glorious defeat that give the nomination to Edwards who could actually win and bring about substantial change.
THEY ARE MAKING HISTORY PEOPLE! Whats 4 to 8 more years of Republican rule to THAT!?
Make no mistake even after all of Bush's fuck ups , with Hill or Barry at the helm our Party WILL LOSE come November.

So right now it's like Hill and Barry arguing about who will be Captain of the TITANIC!


I think all the in-fighting between candidates signals the ultimate downfall of the Party. William Grieder wrote over 10 years ago that the party might need to be destroyed before it could be re-created into something more viable. I think , if Edwards is shut out it will signal an breach that may well be irreparable.

[zalinda]

7. And you are right

I won't be participating in the dem party if Edwards doesn't get the nom. I will give up. Neither Clinton or Obama gives a rat's ass about poor people. They'll be just as callous toward them as Bush was. They'll never take the money out of politics, they are bought and paid for by the special interests. I am almost 60 years old, and with either of them as President, I'll never see health care in my life time.

zalinda

[stravu9]

8. Thank God Someone Sees It My Way!

I was afraid of being shouted down (again!)
Seriously, I will support Edwards and only Edwards . The other 2 are not real Democrats anyway!

[SammyWinstonJack]

10. No kidding!

[stravu9]

15. That's how I see it and it makes me sick!

:puke:

[n2doc]

16. And we let all of these red states vote first!

If HRC or BHO gets the nod, they will lose SC by 30+%. They have zero chance in the general here, so why do we let SC be such a big player when no Dem has won there in years?

[stravu9]

19. EXCELLENT POINT!

:patriot:

[nonconformist]

11. He's the only one that CAN beat them all.

And republicans are crossing over and voting for Obama in the primary.

What does THAT tell us?

[Andy823]

12. It tells me they want him

To win so they can beat him in November!

[nonconformist]

13. Exactly! nt

[troubleinwinter]

14. What does it tell us?

I heard republicans calling into a radio show today saying that they'll cross over in the primary to vote Dem (some named BO, some HC), then vote republican in November.

Why are they crossing over? They say because they want "to pick the beatable candidate for November".

Our system is fucked.

[Zorra]

17. I'm hanging my head because Edwards has a significantly greater

possibility of beating any republican challenger in the general election than Sens. Clinton or Obama.

I just can't work like a dog once again, trying to get a Dem presidential candidate elected that I am not excited about in the first place, and what is worse, to add insult to injury, don't think they have a very good chance of winning the GE.

I'm disheartened and disillusioned, and I just can't believe that we are nominating one of the two select few Democrats that have far less of a chance of winning the GE than John Kerry did in '04.

I truly mean no offense to either Sens.Clinton or Obama, or their supporters.

But this is my view of what is real, and I sincerely hope that I am totally wrong in my perceptions.

But, yeah, ok, ra-ra, go team.

[OzarkDem]

18. He's running against 2 well funded candidates

who are being pushed on the public by corporate America. Even if they win, they will govern no differently than Bush.

The Dem controlled Congress is no different than the GOP controlled one. Why should we expect anything different from Obama or Clinton.

[ecstatic]

20. it tells us that racism and sexism still exists?

:shrug:

[zalinda]

22. No, Edwards supporters are not

racist or sexist, we follow issues, not spot lighted corporate shills. Edwards has gotten less press than either of those two and still manages to hang above 15%.

Stupid people vote for someone they would like to have a beer with. These same type of people vote for a woman because she is a woman? A black person votes for a black person because they are the same race? Who the hell is being racist or sexist, if not them? I don't believe Obama or Clinton in the slightest, if their mouth is moving they are lying. Well, to be truthful, Obama just spouts hot air.

If either of those two are the nominees, I doubt very much if I'll be voting for President this year. And I'll probably join the non-voting masses and not giving a damn who the hell is in the White House, because obviously the dem party doesn't care about me.

zalinda

[robcon]

21. But he's not running against anybody.

His political career is over, IMO, as far as electoral office.

[raincity_calling]

23. Sticking with Edwards, 2nd choice is Obama

I plan to stick with Edwards to the very end. I hope to be a delegate in Denver. If and when the time comes to pass on my vote, I will vote for my second choice Obama.

Edwards is the most progressive of the three. The fact that time and time again he puts forward policy statements and program details prior the issue even being brought up by the candidates. He leads. He has done this with his energy platform, his healthcare platform, and most recently, his stimulus package which has both a short-term and long-term view. He presented this package before the mainstream media or the politicians were even talking about a recession. Once again, Edwards leads, and then everyone else followed and ran to catch up.

This country desperately needs a forward thinking, long-term thinking, president, and Edwards has shown that he has these qualities. He is changing the way issues are presented and the way people think. That is why I plan to stand by him until the end.

Having said that, the one thing that does impress me about Obama is the way he insipres young people and people of all races to come together, and his message of unity as Americans, no matter our age, religion, color, etc. Obama's speeches create a feeling of a shared vision that is a powerful motivational force.

I know that Edwards has the same values, but he has not yet been able to relay that message in a way that grabs people's hearts and evokes the emotional response that I think is driving Obama supporters. I would like to see Edwards' do a speech that focuses more on values and less on his specific policies, and see what happens. A speech that paints a picture of tomorrow's American, when there is fair playing field for all Americans, when we all have an opportunity to have a good education, to find a living wage job, to own a home, to have safety nets in place where, when we come upon hard times, we will have a chance to regain our footing, and get pack on the road again, and where the people drive policy that is acually good for America, rather than allowing corporations and their high paid lobbyists to drive policy that benefits the corporations and the small percentage of Americans who own and control this countries resources and want to keep it that way. Americans are one people and we all need the same chances. Policies that benefit only a few are not policies that benefit America.

Something like that. I am no speech writer (obviously), but Edwards has a good speech writer, so I wish he would try this out a few times.