Richard Beltzer on Bill Maher heard rumors about Murdoch collecting

[question everything]

info about women entertained by Bill Clinton since he left the White House, ready to be used once she is the nominee.

I do hope that this time he will be smarter than saying "I did not have sex with this woman," and to admit - if any is true - and repent and move on.

[Colobo]

1. No surprise here...

[SaveElmer]

61. But, I thought Obamanation believed Murdoch was in Hillary's corner....

You guys like to have it both ways don't ya!

[goldcanyonaz]

2. Been there, done that. Didn't work for them then, won't now.

[CoffeeCat]

7. Are you kidding?

It DID work for them.

Clinton was impeached and disgraced.

Bush was able to ride into the White House on the promise of "restoring integrity to the White House".

Those conservative/evangelical voters couldn't get to the polls fast enough, to vote for
George Bush--a man of God. Rush, Hannity and the rest of the attack dogs convinced all
of those people that another Dem in the White House meant more years of amoral, sex-filled
debauchery.

Gore wouldn't even campaign with him.

It worked, and it will work again. So, let's just hope that Bill has kept it in his past during the
past several years.

[MonkeyFunk]

16. No

he was impeached and acquitted. His approval ratings rose, Republicans lost seats in the '98 election, and Hillary Clinton won a Senate seat.

Gore chose not to campaign with Clinton - tht was a mistake on his part.

No, it didn't work for the Republicans.

[mdmc]

40. W. was a reaction to Clinton

The sheeple wanted change from Clenus.

Actually, this might help HRC - The one thing most Americans would love to see is Bill and Hillary caught in another holier then thou lie fest regarding their love life.

That would take their minds off of the war (that HRC and Bigdog supported) and the economy (which the bigdog outsourced).

[wyldwolf]

53. your reply is not grounded in fact.

Clinton had a 73% approval rating the day after impeachment, a 68% approval rating the day he left office, and numbers in the mid 50s saying they'd vote for him again.

W. was a reaction to a mobilized GOP electorate, a poor Gore campaign, the 'progressive' movement's adoration of Ralph Nader, and a crooked Supreme Court.

[wyldwolf]

50. the only people who think Bill was 'disgraced' with a 73% approval are Republicans and those who...

... fall for their shit.

[cali]

36. bwahahahahaha

oh dear, most unintentionally clueless comment, ever.

[wyldwolf]

51. until your reply, that is.

[Diane R]

3. That's my fear. That she'll be nominated, then the info will come out, too late to nominate Obama.

[CoffeeCat]

4. I'm not sure that I believe that...

Murdoch gave Hillary tons of money.

Belzer said it was a "rumor", so who knows...

Do people really think that Bill is still fucking around?

I guess I'm naieve...

[rox63]

42. Murdoch wants her to be the candidate because there's so much dirt on the Clintons

If she's the nominee, it will all come out. Then Murdoch's networks will make tons of money promoting it, and the repukes will end up winning in November. So it turns into a win-win for Murdoch. x(

[hogwyld]

5. No worries, as Murdoch is supporting Hillary

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/05/09/politics/main1600694.shtml

[Kittycat]

9. Maybe, maybe not?

It could be his sick twisted way to flip the tables on the Dem party. He gives her the money to help her campaign to the nomination. Select right wing pudits talk her up during the primaries. Then bam - all the crap floweth. And the repukes sail away with another victory.

Seriously, if McCain gets the nod - Clinton can forget it. Romney - who knows, but I'm still not risking my chances on her. I don't care for her regardless, and bill only complicates the issue.

[hogwyld]

12. I doubt it

Hillary is after all the "establishment" candidate that will preserve the status quo. With the others, it's unknown what they'll get. Big business prefers predictability.

[MonkeyFunk]

19. No he's not

he hasn't endorsed her presidential run.

He gave her money for her last Senate run.

But don't let the facts get in the way of making shit up.

[Garbo 2004]

32. To be factual, Murdoch also contributed $2,300 to Clinton for Pres in '07.

http://www.newsmeat.com/billionaire_political_donations/Rupert_Murdoch.php

[ShortnFiery]

6. I believe it. And all the videos with 8 x 10' glossy PICs will be immediately posted on Drudge ...

IF The Clintons snag a third Democratic Nomination for their beloved DLC to staff OUR Executive Branch.

Or do you HONESTLY think considering his serial unfaithfulness extending back to his early political days in Arkansas that Bill Clinton is *cured* of his sexual addiction?

Do you honestly believe that The American People will judge a Candidate as a *leader* when his/her spouse continues to be unfaithful to them within the marriage? Or do The Clintons now declare "an open marriage?"

Again, The Clintons can't have it both ways: Bill can't continue to have sex with other women and stay in a "traditional" political marriage. :shrug:

[question everything]

10. Not "cured" but withut Viagra, nature will take care of that

and certainly after his emergency heart surgery he may have been warned about that.

I hope that before she declared her candidacy they had a thorough discussion about that.

[goldcanyonaz]

14. Me too, Lorena Bobbit style.

[babylonsister]

17. How sad is this that we hope they had a 'discussion'? We're talking about

our party, not Bill's libido. Cripes. :banghead:

[Fire Walk With Me]

58. America just won't get that lying us into an oil theft and the deaths of 4,000 US soldiers

actually IS worse than lying about having sex.

A country that DOES think that having sex and lying about it is worse than death and destruction, deserves Bush. And the responsibility of having supported him. The world doesn't know whether to laugh at us or to be afraid of us. Probably the latter.

[mondo joe]

18. Along with videos of a guy saying he did coke with Obama?

[Konza]

8. They're also going to run the same "womanizer" crap

against Hillary.
No, I'm not shitting you, that's how pathetic they are.
I have a fairly right wing BIL who is convinced Hillary is a lesbian.
He insist she has "mid-east life partner" and a bi-curious romance from the 90s.
Both are complete bullshit, but you figured as much. Just brace thyself for it this fall.
Oh, my brother in law also thinks Hillary secretly killed Vince Foster, (in the parlor with a candlestick, no doubt) so that gives you some idea of the mental midgets I am forced to socialize with on holidays. Thank God for booze.

Lord have mercy.

[goldcanyonaz]

11. lol! Very well written post. Thank G-D for booze, is right.

[ShortnFiery]

13. You're right, everyone tells us that Bill and Hill are above reproach.

:crazy:

Sorry, but I just won't drink that DLC kool-aid. :thumbsdown:

[question everything]

15. Goes hand in hand with "Muslim" Obama who was sworen to office

on the Quran.

The Clinton campaign of the 1992 was very adept at meeting all the rumors head first. Let's hope that they are ready for whatever will come their way.

[babylonsister]

20. The Clinton campaign? Are you for or against and why do you post a lie?

But you're good. You got 'Muslim' and "Quran" in the same thread. Oye. Nah, UGH.

[question everything]

27. One hope that we, on DU, know that this is bullshit

but it falls into the same smear campaign of Obama "being a Muslim" and Hillary being "lesbian."

[ShortnFiery]

21. No, apples and oranges: Clinton (an serial adulterer), Obama (a Christian/not Muslim)

There's absolutely no comparison for the two issues.

P.S. If anything, Viagra will aggravate a person who has a sexual addiction. It's not "the act" but "the allure." :shrug:

[question everything]

26. The comparison was to "lesbian" Hillary

please read that post again.

[Konza]

22. Sometimes it is fun being related to one of these guys

just when I feel kinda like a dumb ass in life , I'll listen to his rightwing/X-Files theories and feel like the smartest man in the room. Luckily I only see him on holidays and the occasional email. But for this fall I imagine they will throw the oddest, wackiest shit upthere just to see it a few dimwits believe it. And, dipshits like my BIL will buy it. But he does make for fascinating conversation!

[ShortnFiery]

23. "dipshits like my BIL" ? WTF? Now you have completely lost me.

And most likely, the entire reading audience who don't know your person off of this MB? :shrug:

[question everything]

30. LOL, see post #8, above (nt)

[Konza]

31. Sorry. I was referring to my brother in law who trades in all of these conspiracy theories.

Over Christmas I learned from him that we (evil) Democrats are doomed because:
1. Hillary is a lesbian. It's true! He read it on the internet! With an "Arab" no less. Oh, and they have another Hillary girlfriend issue from the 90s, so she is toast in the election. So says the wacky X-files wing of the republicans. Oh, and she killed Vince Foster, Ron Brown, and they have PROOF! It's a Conspiracy I tell Ya!

2. Also, Barack Obama is a secret Muslim manchurian candidate, sent here by the evildoers in Al-Qaeda to kill us all. But you already knew that.

Needless to say I let him go on and on with his bizzaro world observations while I drink, eat turkey and nod. Some were the traditional, "Democrats are Godless baby-killer stuff", but some are getting pretty novel.
Like how WMD's really were in Iraq! Oh, Yes! But the Syrians (or was it the Iranians? Or Russians?) snuck them out before we got there in order to make George Bush look bad.
No. I'm not making this shit up. He honestly believes this.

At this point I must say that my BIL's republicanism is akin to dementia, but that's the kinda crap I hear on holidays. That's why I drink a lot on the holidays and only visit once a year.

Sorry if my post confused. I was just making a note that a lot of the hits that are coming this Fall are not even original hits.
1992 Talking point 1:"Bill Clinton screws lots of women"
Ok, since we are so unoriginal in our attacks, just revise that to read
2008 Talking Point 1: "Hillary Clinton screws lots of women"
I mean, come the hell on. I know there's a writer's strike, but this is pathetic

[robbedvoter]

45. "I know there's a writer's strike, but this is pathetic" - I call DU-zie !

Well put. Tweeety wouldn't be able to sit on these kinds of finds anyway.

[BenDavid]

24. THINK FOR A MOMENT HERE PEOPLE..PLEASE, BEG YA

Knowing full well this would come up if HRC won the nomination, I would think this time the clintons will be waiting with loaded guns if someone especially fox owner or fox news or any person from the gop or the rnc brings this matter up.....

Both clintons have records of all the travel dates and times and all the people Bill has meant with, and for the sole purpose this will be used to counter whatever charge is brought and once the clintons disprove this there will be no more......If this is coming from teh rnc or gop then once this acqusation has been disprove with names, times and dates then this should make the white house HRC's next stop.....

[tekisui]

25. Thank you.

The Clinton's are serious. They would not be so stupid as to let something like this happen.

[Jane Austin]

37. That's what I thought in 1998.

I was wrong.

I'm tired of the USA being the stage upon which the Clintons play out their tawdry dysfunctional personalities.

[calteacherguy]

28. Uh, you are assuming Bill has self-discipline, He does not.

He's probably been with numerous women since leaving the White House. Of course, it's possible he hasn't, but more likely than not he has, imo.

[Rocinante]

33. Good point but

don't forget the corporate media role in something like this. Facts be damned when they're brought into the mix.

[bklyncowgirl]

41. You're talking about a guy who managed to get regular blow jobs in the Oval Office.

As president of the United States, surrounded by Secret Service, secretaries and officials of every sort, this guy somehow managed to get his rocks off even if it was with a rather chubby star struck intern.

Did Bill Clinton know that he had political enemies looking out for every misstep? Of course.

Did Bill Clinton know that this could destroy everything he and Hillary had ever worked for? Yes.

Did Bill Clinton do it anyway? We all know the answer to that.

Yeah it's his private life and it's nobody's business but his and Hillary's and whoever his babe du jour happens to be. Tell that to the media.

[Azathoth]

46. Disprove what? Most of the "bimbo" allegations against Bill are true

and he has admitted as much. The only thing the Clintons are prepared to do is exactly what they did last time: get into a mudslinging war with the GOP for another 4/8 years.

[donheld]

29. Bill needs to ask Rupert if he's jeolous.

I'm sure Murdock hasn't gotten laid in a very long time. At least without paying for it.

[LTR]

34. I didn't know Bill was running for president

Oh wait -

Bill Clinton: 'Screw It, I'm Running For President'

CHARLESTON, SC—After spending two months accompanying his wife, Hillary, on the campaign trail, former president Bill Clinton announced Monday that he is joining the 2008 presidential race, saying he "could no longer resist the urge."

"My fellow Americans, I am sick and tired of not being president," said Clinton, introducing his wife at a "Hillary '08" rally. "For seven agonizing years, I have sat idly by as others experienced the joys of campaigning, debating, and interacting with the people of this great nation, and I simply cannot take it anymore. I have to be president again. I have to."
Enlarge Image Bill Clinton

"Damn, this feels good," Clinton told supporters as he shook hands in Charleston Monday.

He continued, "It is with a great sense of relief that I say to all of you today, 'Screw it. I'm in.'"

http://www.theonion.com/content/news/bill_clinton_screw_it_im_running

[Catherine Vincent]

35. And if he is, is he collecting info on Edwards and Obama? nt

[Jane Austin]

38. I don't believe either Edwards or Obama are undisciplined

sex addicts.

If he couldn't keep it zipped in the Oval Office, for God's sake, why would he be able to now?

[Catherine Vincent]

39. Don't know, don't care.

I was asking about Edwards and Obama. You can't leave their penises out.

[Mother Of Four]

60. I think the point is...

Obama and Edwards are leaving their penises IN...their pants.

It's Bill thats left his penis out of his.

[IndianaGreen]

43. Former Clinton pal David Geffen said as much

Hillary knows about Bill's ongoing reckless personal behaviour. She's an enabler!

[pathansen]

44. Fox News must be pretty desperate if this is the best they can think of to use against Clintons

Creating another sex scandel to use against Clinton has gotten to be pretty tiring.
Lets MOVE ON!

[robbedvoter]

47. Good reminder why MOVEON was created, and what the title means

Some of the kiddies here don't know.

[Vinca]

48. Somewhere there is a vault guarded by Swifties.

Republicans can barely contain themselves over the prospect of running against Hillary. They've been pushing her for years. They'll release some of the photos, put out a few ads - bada bing, bada boom - McCain is president.

[still_one]

49. So is it really news that bill clinton is a whoring jerk, tell me something I don't know /nt

[pdxmom]

52. The thing is that, even if nothing is true, it won't matter. If he denies

anything, they'll just run and rerun the finger-wagging "I did not have sexual relations" clip and no one will believe the denials. It's going to be a thorn in the Clinton's side throughout any GE.

[MH1]

54. And folks need to remember, "it's the dishonesty, stupid."

Most sane people don't care that much about the sex. Although I think many if not most women think somewhat less of Hillary for tolerating it.

But the honesty angle is what will be played, and given that a good percentage of people see the Clintons as cold calculating politicians, it could very well work to reduce trust to a point where people won't vote for her.

Meanwhile St. McCain is built up in the media as a "straight shooter" :eyes:

Come on folks, can anyone pretend they don't know how this story will end?

Edited for silly typo.

[pdxmom]

55. I didn't care a bit about the sex. Had he just admitted it, I would have thought

"How embarrassing" and moved on. It was the big lie. And I figure if someone will lie about the little stuff that doesn't really matter, how the hell am I supposed to trust them about the big stuff.

I'm tired of not being able to trust our leaders about the big stuff.

[MH1]

62. Exactly.

[SoxFan]

56. I did not have sexual relations with that woman

Or that woman.

Or that woman.

Nope, not her, either.

Her? The blonde? Don't remember.

Not that woman.

OK, well, maybe the one over there with the eyeliner, maybe. I can't clearly recall.

[Lerkfish]

57. that would be odd, considering he's thrown a lot of money and influence her way.

I don't think that would happen.

[ordinaryaveragegirl]

59. Murdoch is a modern-day muckraker...

He'll dig up absolutely anything on anyone, as long as it's wingnut-friendly, sells papers, and gets ratings for Fox Noise. :eyes: