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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 07:17 PM
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A Clinton win in Nevada ends on an ugly note.
Hillary Hatches a Win


By John Dickerson
Posted Saturday, Jan. 19, 2008, at 5:20 PM ET

Hillary Clinton has won the Nevada caucus, which means a few things about the Democratic race are now coming into focus. For example, mark on your calendar Jan. 25 for an outburst by Bill Clinton somewhere in South Carolina. He has launched a tirade the day before each of his wife's victories in Nevada and New Hampshire, claiming the process was unfairly stacked against her. If this keeps up, he's going to require a stretcher by the last primary in Oregon come May.

Bill Clinton was so angry because it got ugly at the end in Nevada. Democrats may have cooled down their flash war over race and gender earlier this week, but by the time the vote took place Saturday, each of the two top campaigns was flinging some very ugly charges about the other. Bill Clinton accused the powerful Nevada culinary union of suppressing voters, claiming he'd witnessed it first hand. Obama's campaign manager in turn threw out some very charged coded language about efforts by the Clinton campaign to suppress the vote. "It is a sad day when Democrats start trying to suppress the vote of other Democrats," he said of push polls, robo-calls, and what he called "old-style say anything or do anything to win" Clinton politics.

Commence the hand-wringing. How do you put a party back together when Obama claims that Clinton wins only by winning ugly? Historically, political parties find ways to put themselves back together, but Clinton risks looking like a hope killer if Obama's charges that she's succeeded unfairly start to stick. In addition to charges by Obama aides, the candidate himself was accusing Clinton of distorting his record and saying anything to get elected in the final hours of campaigning. Clinton's negatives are already high enough. This prospect of Clinton commanding a party stitched together like Frankenstein may at some point cause people to resist supporting her even if their doubts about Obama increase.

more . . . http://www.slate.com/id/2182355/
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 07:19 PM
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1. "Obama claims..."
He is noble and full of charm, that one. Expect four years of RACISM RACISM RACISM to replace TERRA TERRA TERRA if we elect this "uniter."
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 07:30 PM
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7. You outdid yourself with that one, aquart.
Bookmarked.
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 09:09 PM
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15. To be fair, he IS hearing from his people on the ground
about all of the slimeball Clinton scorched-earth tactics that took place today.

I have read at least 6 first-hand accounts of the circus in the last 2 hours. No telling what is being reported to the campaign.
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Chovexani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 09:15 PM
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17. .
:wtf:
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 07:21 PM
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2. Hafta give this a big K&R.
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fletcherwalker Donating Member (34 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 07:24 PM
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Obama apparently plays it plenty dirty and slings lots of mud
Isn't his campaign manager speaking for him?
If anyone says anything even remotely negative about Obama, Hillary Clinton is alyways blamed.
This guy is just a poor loser.
Walker
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fletcherwalker Donating Member (34 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 07:24 PM
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3. Obama apparently plays it plenty dirty and slings lots of mud
Isn't his campaign manager speaking for him?
If anyone says anything even remotely negative about Obama, Hillary Clinton is alyways blamed.
This guy is just a poor loser.
Walker
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 07:26 PM
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4. change your Op title, it should read "A Clinton LOSS in Nevada ends on an ugly note"
;)
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 08:08 PM
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11. LOL good point
I just copied the title from the article.
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Nedsdag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 07:28 PM
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5. Well said!
Double kick!
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gdaerin Donating Member (402 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 07:29 PM
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6. I know, I hate to admit it, but I've been eyeing the Republican candidates!
sorry people, don't hate me, I'm just being honest!
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 08:09 PM
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12. Oh Gawd not me
Never Never Never.
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 08:39 PM
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13. Yeah - me too - to see how fucking insane they really are!!!
each one is worse than the next till you come full circle...
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HeraldSquare212 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 07:42 PM
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8. The charges will stick.
You could win ugly when there wasn't the internet to instantly and widely publicize what you did. But that's over. I sometimes wonder if the Clinton campaign just doesn't get the Internet for example, why wouldn't you at least scrub your website of a story that claimed you named Reagan as one of your favorite presidents before you attacked your opponent for allegedly lauding Reagan?
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Essene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 07:44 PM
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9. bill clinton "overheard" voter suppression acivities


no... really.

they told a worker they'd be punished if they didnt vote obama... in earshot of President Bill Clinton.

and if you believe this really happened, you're a moron.
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 08:54 PM
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14. No, no - get the story right - according to Bill, they were following him around
and intimidating voters he'd just talked to.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 08:07 PM
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10. Really nice - the war within the Democratic party.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 09:14 PM
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16. If Hillary wins......Bloomberg will run. So say hello to President McCain
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 11:07 AM
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18. Bingo!!
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