correct me if I am wrong, but didn't the ray-gun years include: iran-contra, grenada, the firing of

[niyad]

the air traffic controllers? the release of mental patients on to the streets? obl in the cia? the war ini afghanistan?

and we have people PRAISING him?

[Xipe Totec]

1. And another housing crash too. (nt)

[ccpup]

2. then-President Reagan refusing to acknowledge the gay

community or that "gay" disease AIDS until thousands had died and it was an epidemic?

Yeah, I wonder if Obama likes THAT Reagan, too?

[DS1]

3. time makes the brain grow senile

[BOSSHOG]

4. Yes

ray-gun sat in the oval office with his suit and tie on and ordered the murder of Priests, Nuns and Children in Central America. Of course that kind of behavior would bring praise from those with conservative values.

[sandnsea]

5. Which is why we need a transformational leader

to change the trajectory.

NOBODY is praisng Reagan. Why are people posting that lie.

[robbedvoter]

8. Not one who thinks Raygun was right, Liberals wrong. Obama's words:

""The conservative revolution Reagan helped usher in gained traction because Reagan's central insight--that the liberal welfare state had grown complacent and overly bureaucratic, with Democratic policy makers more obsessed with slicing the economic pie than with growing he pie--contained a good deal of truth."
from his book p. 156

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4090801&mesg_id=4092172



"When a Hollywood performer, lacking distinction even as an actor, can become a leading war hawk candidate for the presidency, only the irrationalities induced by war psychosis can explain such a turn of events." -- Martin Luther King about Ronald Reagan

[sandnsea]

9. Shall we just put up competing quotes

"..and certainly liberals were right to complain that his domestic policies tilted heavily toward elites, with corporate raiders making tidy profits throughout the eighties while unions were busted and the income for the average working stiff flatlined."

He is reporting what people thought and it is what people thought. We had been pouring money into various programs and the country was in ten times worse shape than it is now. There was no hope for blue collar workers anywhere in the country, nowhere. There was no new technology on the horizon. It was bleak. Yes people were pissed about pouring money into the government and not getting any change.

[niyad]

11. the country was in ten times wrose shape than now? how many TRILLIONS in debt are we?

how many illegal, unjust and immoral wars of occupation based on LIES are we in now? how many people are losing their homes? how many jobs and entire industries have been outsourced? how much of our constitution has been shredded?

if you think this is better than 1980, you seriously need to get in touch with reality.

[sandnsea]

13. On the verge with Iran? In Afghanistan?

Manufacturing base completely collapsing. Boomers all looking for jobs. I lost my first job to outsourcing way back in 1980. Inflation was on the rise. My interest was 6% and I had a VA home loan. It would go up to 15% in the 80's. The country was in a mess. Think of what it's going to look like here next year, after the credit crash completely takes hold and unemployment is at 10%. That was the late 70s through the time the internet gave us a new industry.

Reagan didn't fix anything. But Obama most certainly describes the bleak mood of the country.

[robbedvoter]

6. taking of the kids school lunches, honoring nazis at Bitburg , birth of the fundie power

taking over of the MSM, government corruption, 10,000 toilet seats for pentagon - yup That Reagan.

[niyad]

10. I almost forgot listing ketchup as a vegetable.

[ProSense]

7. Yes, see

this and this.

[The_Casual_Observer]

12. Tax increases hidden as "use fees" & elimination of credit card interest tax deduction

[Sal Minella]

14. and a terrible crisis in the farm economy.